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riversedge

(70,218 posts)
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 11:55 AM Jul 2016

The AP fact-checked Donald Trump's speech – and there were some whoppers

Source: AP




The AP fact-checked Donald Trump's speech – and there were some whoppers
Associated Press

Calvin Woodward and Michael Biesecker, Associated Press

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Despite promising "the truth, and nothing else" in his convention speech, Donald Trump presented the nation with a series of previously debunked claims and some new ones Thursday night — about the U.S. tax burden, the perils facing police, Hillary Clinton's record and more.

A look at some of the Republican presidential candidate's claims and how they compare with the facts:

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TRUMP: "Decades of progress made in bringing down crime are now being reversed by this administration's rollback of criminal enforcement. Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America's 50 largest cities. That's the largest increase in 25 years."

THE FACTS: A rollback? President Barack Obama has actually achieved some big increases in spending for state and local law enforcement, including billions in grants provided through the 2009 stimulus. While FBI crime statistics for 2015 are not yet available, Trump's claim about rising homicides appears to come from a Washington Post analysis published in January. While Trump accurately quotes part of the analysis, he omits that the statistical jump was so large because homicides are still very low by historical standards. In the 50 cities cited by the Post, for example, half as many people were killed last year as in 1991.

TRUMP: "The number of new illegal immigrant families..............

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-fact-check-of-donald-trumps-speech-2016-7

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The AP fact-checked Donald Trump's speech – and there were some whoppers (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2016 OP
Trump and facts never belong in the same room liberal N proud Jul 2016 #1
If Reagan taught the Rapepublicans anything, forest444 Jul 2016 #3
They learned that lesson well liberal N proud Jul 2016 #4
After 30 years or so of listening to Trump... TreasonousBastard Jul 2016 #2
The homicide statistic is from the Washington Post oberliner Jul 2016 #5
I assume that includes death by cop... nt. Blue Idaho Jul 2016 #15
Drumpf wouldn't state the truth even if it was stuffed down his mouth. lark Jul 2016 #6
He didn't write any of the speech oberliner Jul 2016 #9
Oh, I think he knew the meaning and got the speech he wanted as well. lark Jul 2016 #10
Did you hear his press conference today? oberliner Jul 2016 #11
True lark Jul 2016 #12
I think he is a cipher oberliner Jul 2016 #13
i'd bet that speech was > 90% Manafort 0rganism Jul 2016 #20
Agreed oberliner Jul 2016 #21
Probably more whoopers than my local Burger King restaurant LynneSin Jul 2016 #7
Trumpolini also used 2008 poverty rates, when he should used 2009 rates - a common Rethug trick. forest444 Jul 2016 #8
This is the Toilet and Paper Party NOW turbinetree Jul 2016 #14
Is it a bad sign when your fact checking machine bursts into flames? tclambert Jul 2016 #16
Fact checking the madman's absurd words Politicub Jul 2016 #17
Facts don't matter with cheeto because they contradict his hateful narrative kimbutgar Jul 2016 #18
Trump is a lying sack of POOP riversedge Jul 2016 #19
Never letting the truth stand in the way of a good applause line is the Republican way. MrScorpio Jul 2016 #22
A coworker was playing the speech last night awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #23

forest444

(5,902 posts)
3. If Reagan taught the Rapepublicans anything,
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jul 2016

it's to never let facts get in the way of a good story. Trump does take it to a new level though.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
2. After 30 years or so of listening to Trump...
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jul 2016

I just assume everything he says is full of it.

If he mistakenly says something that might be considered important, check it.

Oh, and it wasn't by choice listening to that bullshitter-- he had every reporter in NYC on speed dial and called them daily. On a slow news day they used him as filler. I bet they're regretting that now.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. The homicide statistic is from the Washington Post
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:30 PM
Jul 2016
The number of homicides in the country's 50 largest cities rose nearly 17 percent last year, the greatest increase in lethal violence in a quarter century.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/2015-homicides/

lark

(23,099 posts)
6. Drumpf wouldn't state the truth even if it was stuffed down his mouth.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:36 PM
Jul 2016

He's a lying liar and the most dangerous man to ever run for the office of president. He's GW on steroids and is using that model to destroy our country and let him cash out big time. Cut taxes astronomically, implement new programs that don't help any workers just the 1%, get out of dodge, buying up everything in a fire sale. Also as president, he probably thinks he'll have a better chance of winning all the lawsuits against him since he routinely defrauds everyone he can.

lark

(23,099 posts)
10. Oh, I think he knew the meaning and got the speech he wanted as well.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:41 PM
Jul 2016

All hate and lies all the time. Pretend to be populist when all he wants is to destroy the American working class and take all their $$$.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
11. Did you hear his press conference today?
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jul 2016

He talked about Ted Cruz and the National Enquirer story.

The "teleprompter Trump" is not him.

lark

(23,099 posts)
12. True
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:56 PM
Jul 2016

Without a teleprompter he speaks in 2-3 word sentences. But I guarantee you, the thoughts are his or he has adopted them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
13. I think he is a cipher
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:01 PM
Jul 2016

I think he has a view vague concepts that he thinks make sense, but that's about it.

0rganism

(23,954 posts)
20. i'd bet that speech was > 90% Manafort
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jul 2016

gotta be on the short list for trump's Chief of Staff by now

forest444

(5,902 posts)
8. Trumpolini also used 2008 poverty rates, when he should used 2009 rates - a common Rethug trick.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jul 2016

No president, no matter how quickly they act, can affect poverty or unemployment rates much in their first year in office.

turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
14. This is the Toilet and Paper Party NOW
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:05 PM
Jul 2016


And just as a reminder the estate of George Harrison is not happy, I would be upset also, using his song
"Here comes the Sun" with this twit marching out on stage, getting ready to LIE, Defraud and go into his Narcissistic Bigoted, misogynistic rant

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. Fact checking the madman's absurd words
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jul 2016

legitimizes this hate speech as something worthy of consideration.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
22. Never letting the truth stand in the way of a good applause line is the Republican way.
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jul 2016

Trump knows his audience well.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
23. A coworker was playing the speech last night
Fri Jul 22, 2016, 05:53 PM
Jul 2016

when he said "Americans pay the highest taxes in the world" I asked him if he believed that hogwash. I tried to use reason for a minute, but arguing with idiots hurts my head. I went for a smoke.

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