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jpak

(41,760 posts)
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:06 AM Jul 2016

Man pulls gun in fight over boy kicking back of chair at Kentucky theater

Source: Cleveland.com

PADUCAH, Kentucky — A fight that started over a young boy kicking the back of a chair in a movie theater resulted in a man pulling a gun and threatening the boy's father, reports say.

Now police are seeking charges against the man with the gun, westkentuckystar.com reports.

Police responded to Cinemark Theater on Saturday morning during a showing of "Star Trek Beyond", kfvs12.com reports. Police say a man and his son were sitting in the theater and the boy was kicking the back of the seat of a man in front of him.

Reports say the man got up and cursed the boy, leading to a fight between him and the boy's father.

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Man pulls gun in fight over boy kicking back of chair at Kentucky theater (Original Post) jpak Jul 2016 OP
they are lucky the gun owner didnt committ mass murder nt msongs Jul 2016 #1
The hell...? sakabatou Jul 2016 #2
Kentucky... reddread Jul 2016 #14
Now, instead of learning to control themselves, armed people can simply threaten someone. Judi Lynn Jul 2016 #3
Rec this! ^^^^^ Ilsa Jul 2016 #6
you nailed it.... dhill926 Jul 2016 #25
+100 n/t billh58 Jul 2016 #44
For every shooting that hits news, there are many more cases of intimidation with guns that don't. Hoyt Jul 2016 #4
Everyone is capable of being irrational Major Nikon Jul 2016 #11
Another good guy Orrex Jul 2016 #5
Now if the boy had a gun too, we could have a different outcome. IronLionZion Jul 2016 #7
Man does an completely unwarranted pull of a gun, points it at dad. christx30 Jul 2016 #48
An armed society is a polite society ... nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2016 #8
To be completely honest, I was at an event with several screaming 4 year olds on Saturday Vinca Jul 2016 #9
I was about to post that the doting parent of a chair kicker Warpy Jul 2016 #10
Huh? leftynyc Jul 2016 #13
Where did I say that? Warpy Jul 2016 #39
How many times do leftynyc Jul 2016 #41
It may help even more if the immature mind realize that children are in fact, merely children. LanternWaste Jul 2016 #23
What? You expect adults to act more maturely than children? uppityperson Jul 2016 #24
It's a parent's job to civilize them and prevent them from annoying other people Warpy Jul 2016 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #12
So a "Second Amendment Solution" works for you in these circumstances? Paladin Jul 2016 #15
how much for three bales? reddread Jul 2016 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #17
I stand by my prior comment. (nt) Paladin Jul 2016 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #19
You just made my day. Thanks. (nt) Paladin Jul 2016 #21
Seriously? I hope you don't own any guns. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #37
Too late. Paladin Jul 2016 #45
You sound like the very, very rare gun owner I wouldn't automatically loathe StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #46
Your earlier comment was directed at me, rather than the trouble-maker. Paladin Jul 2016 #47
+100 billh58 Jul 2016 #50
De nada..... (nt) Paladin Jul 2016 #54
how old are you? snooper2 Jul 2016 #30
gun humpers are sooooo fragile Skittles Jul 2016 #52
I can condemn the guy! Chemisse Jul 2016 #20
I condemn the guy for acting so immaturely. uppityperson Jul 2016 #26
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #29
Oh well then, that makes it all right... Aristus Jul 2016 #32
HE.PULLED.A.GUN.ON.A.KID.FOR.AN.INSIGNIFICANT.BEHAVIOR.PROBLEM. Paladin Jul 2016 #33
That's the comment that got you blocked. StrictlyRockers Jul 2016 #38
i say THROW THE MAN IN JAIL FOR ASSAULT and he NEVER has the right to own a gun again!! trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #43
He did, however act immaturely. Threatening a man and child for kicking his seat is immature. uppityperson Jul 2016 #49
Pulling a gun creates a dangerous atmosphere. drm604 Jul 2016 #51
A lot of parents seem to realize this one salient fact Warpy Jul 2016 #36
Why not try asking? bekkilyn Jul 2016 #22
That is just how fucking scary it is. liberal N proud Jul 2016 #27
Just another day in gun country. Initech Jul 2016 #28
Another Successful Defensive Gun Use! maxsolomon Jul 2016 #31
one word.....netflix dembotoz Jul 2016 #34
my nephew did this few times when he was little. i say THROW THE MAN IN JAIL FOR ASSAULT trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #40
senseless guns molova Jul 2016 #42
Some people shouldn't own a gun. tawadi Jul 2016 #53
 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
14. Kentucky...
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:09 AM
Jul 2016

way more guns than people.
if chair kicker daddy didnt see it coming,
I wonder what was he doing in McCracken county?

Judi Lynn

(160,649 posts)
3. Now, instead of learning to control themselves, armed people can simply threaten someone.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:57 AM
Jul 2016

Why should anyone be self-disciplined, civilized when he/she can go berserk, instead?

Why bother? Having a gun tells you you're O.K. all the time, and everyone who hacks you off is not.

How elegant. A new country of coast to coast bullying assholes.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. For every shooting that hits news, there are many more cases of intimidation with guns that don't.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:17 AM
Jul 2016

Intimidation of spouses/family, road rage, flashing/pulling a gun because you fear someone walking down the street, get off my lawn, and worse.

In fact, some of those cases of intimidation, get counted as "defensive gun use" stats gunners like to cite. To gun fanciers, george zimmerman used his gun defensively when he stalked, intimidated and murdered Trayvon Martin.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
11. Everyone is capable of being irrational
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:26 AM
Jul 2016

Add guns to the mix and bad outcomes are inevitable.

Guns do not make anyone safer. They make themselves and everyone around them less safe.

IronLionZion

(45,570 posts)
7. Now if the boy had a gun too, we could have a different outcome.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:06 AM
Jul 2016

A heavily armed society is a polite society. you know, like Afghanistan or Somalia. Unlike those impolite bastards suffering under the jackboots of tyranny in Australia or Ireland. The man with the gun was being repressed by the boy so he fought for his freedom.



christx30

(6,241 posts)
48. Man does an completely unwarranted pull of a gun, points it at dad.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jul 2016

Dad does a completely justified pull of his weapon in self defense. First idiot now is feels threatened, and opens fire. Boy is now an orphan.
A heavily armed society is a bloody society.

Vinca

(50,318 posts)
9. To be completely honest, I was at an event with several screaming 4 year olds on Saturday
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:24 AM
Jul 2016

and it's probably a good thing I'm anti-gun. Strangulation did cross my mind, though. Kidding, of course, but if you allow guns everywhere except where the politicians work, this is what happens.

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
10. I was about to post that the doting parent of a chair kicker
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 07:40 AM
Jul 2016

who wouldn't tell the brat to knock it off should be considered at fault in a case like this. It would have been justifiable homicide, although I'd hope a gun in a crowded theater wouldn't be involved.

The problem with toting a gun everywhere is the old adage, "if your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." A lot of people out there need to lose their hammers and expand their tool belt to include starting out with nonviolent means.

It would also help if theaters ejected undisciplined brats, especially in crowded first run movies everybody wants to see.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
13. Huh?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jul 2016

Are you seriously saying it would have been justified for the ammosexual to shoot a kid because he was kicking his chair? because that's what this sentence seems to be saying:

It would have been justifiable homicide, although I'd hope a gun in a crowded theater wouldn't be involved

How about the asshole getting up and changing seats?

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
39. Where did I say that?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:54 PM
Jul 2016

Oh, YOU did.

I understand the anger at doting parents of undisciplined brats. I don't understand gun waving in a crowded theater, at all.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. It may help even more if the immature mind realize that children are in fact, merely children.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 10:14 AM
Jul 2016

"It would also help if theaters ejected undisciplined brats..."

It may help even more if the immature mind realize that children are in fact, merely children, and making a conscious choice to visit a public venue which allows children often requires more tolerance than the undisciplined, self-serving "adult" may find palatable.

Seems to me that if one allows themselves a righteous rage or impassioned fury simply from a child kicking a chair, then the problem lies with them for acting a child, rather than the child acting a child.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
24. What? You expect adults to act more maturely than children?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:23 AM
Jul 2016

Seriously, I don't understand the attitude of adults insulting children and acting out against them. If they can't control themselves, why do they expect kids to be able to.

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
35. It's a parent's job to civilize them and prevent them from annoying other people
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jul 2016

through maddening behaviors like chair kicking. Parents of children who annoy other people who tell them about it have a duty to tell the kid to stop the behavior. A movie theater is not Chuck E Cheese and appropriate behavior needs to be taught.

Otherwise, you end up with Donald Trump.

Response to jpak (Original post)

Paladin

(28,279 posts)
15. So a "Second Amendment Solution" works for you in these circumstances?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:13 AM
Jul 2016

Do me a favor and stay out of movie theaters in my community.

Response to Paladin (Reply #15)

Response to Paladin (Reply #18)

Paladin

(28,279 posts)
45. Too late.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:31 PM
Jul 2016

I've been a gun owner for more than 50 years. Not a single negative incident with them in all that time. You see, I'm one of those weird-o gun owners: I'm a lifelong Democrat, and I favor rigorous controls on the ownership and use of firearms---pulling out a pistol and aiming it at an unruly kid in a movie theater ought to end your access to anything more lethal than a Q-Tip, as far as I'm concerned.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
46. You sound like the very, very rare gun owner I wouldn't automatically loathe
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jul 2016

And if you check, unless I am mistaken, I was not responding to you. I can't be sure since I blocked that newbie kid who thinks it's fine to pull out a gun in a crowded theater as long as you don't shoot anyone.

Paladin

(28,279 posts)
47. Your earlier comment was directed at me, rather than the trouble-maker.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:46 PM
Jul 2016

No problem, I know such things happen; I've been guilty of it, myself. And I hope that gun owners such as myself aren't "very, very rare."

Chemisse

(30,817 posts)
20. I can condemn the guy!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:22 AM
Jul 2016

What about moving to a different seat?

How about turning around and glaring at the kid and his dad? Maybe even make a rude comment.

Pulling a gun should not be among your tools for dealing with minor annoyances.

Response to uppityperson (Reply #26)

Paladin

(28,279 posts)
33. HE.PULLED.A.GUN.ON.A.KID.FOR.AN.INSIGNIFICANT.BEHAVIOR.PROBLEM.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jul 2016

And you seem OK with that. How about talking to the kid's parents? How about contacting theater management? Life in NRA-Land........

trueblue2007

(17,242 posts)
43. i say THROW THE MAN IN JAIL FOR ASSAULT and he NEVER has the right to own a gun again!!
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jul 2016

i say THROW THE MAN IN JAIL FOR ASSAULT and he NEVER has the right to own a gun again!! Violent sociopath!!



and I AM BLOCKING YOU TOO for making an ignorant statement.
GUNS AND STUPID PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE.

uppityperson

(115,681 posts)
49. He did, however act immaturely. Threatening a man and child for kicking his seat is immature.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jul 2016

He ruined the movie for everyone in the theater also.

You seem to be saying that so long as you don't shoot someone, threatening a parent and child with a gun is mature behavior for the crime of having your seatback kicked. That is quite the attitude.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
51. Pulling a gun creates a dangerous atmosphere.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 06:21 PM
Jul 2016

Some other armed person might have decided that this person was a mass shooter who was going to start shooting and decided to take him out first. Others may have thought that this second person was a shooter, etc., etc. Pretty soon a movie theater becomes the OK corral.

Warpy

(111,383 posts)
36. A lot of parents seem to realize this one salient fact
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 01:52 PM
Jul 2016

Their child's annoying behavior is cute only to blood relatives. Everybody else is going to think their kid is an undisciplined brat.

bekkilyn

(454 posts)
22. Why not try asking?
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 09:29 AM
Jul 2016

Seriously, why did the guy not turn around and try asking the boy/father to stop *politely* as a *first* solution? I saw nothing in the article that stated he had asked and been ignored. The fact that the guy was so *immediately* frustrated that the very first thing he does is pull a gun on a child (yes, it says father but it may as well have been both of them) says a lot.

liberal N proud

(60,347 posts)
27. That is just how fucking scary it is.
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jul 2016

You just don't know when some nut job with a gun is going to go off on something you did or said.

trueblue2007

(17,242 posts)
40. my nephew did this few times when he was little. i say THROW THE MAN IN JAIL FOR ASSAULT
Mon Jul 25, 2016, 02:01 PM
Jul 2016

my nephew acted like this sometimes when he was little. i say THROW THE MAN IN JAIL FOR ASSAULT and he NEVER has the right to own a gun again!! Violent sociopath!!

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