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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 04:45 AM Aug 2016

Woman accidentally killed by Florida officer during roleplaying exercise

Source: Chicago Tribune

Police in Florida say a woman has been accidentally shot to death by an officer during a citizens academy exercise.

Multiple media outlets report that Punta Gorda Police Chief Tom Lewis says Mary Knowlton was taking part in a roleplaying scenario Tuesday when she was "mistakenly struck with a live round."

Lewis says Knowlton was chosen from about 35 people in the class for a "shoot/don't shoot" simulation. He says she was taken to a hospital, where she was pronounced dead.

The officer involved has not been identified and is on administrative leave pending a Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigation, Lewis says.

Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-florida-police-shooting-accident-20160809-story,amp.html

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Woman accidentally killed by Florida officer during roleplaying exercise (Original Post) Recursion Aug 2016 OP
"mistakenly struck with a live round." truthisfreedom Aug 2016 #1
??????????????????????????..what kind of crap??????????????? Stuart G Aug 2016 #2
Where else ... but Florida ... seriously, something is WRONG about that state ... brett_jv Aug 2016 #3
I guess they forgot not to play cops and robbers with real loaded guns vinny9698 Aug 2016 #4
Wow, WTF! Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #5
My local PD has citizens' police acadmies Dale Neiburg Aug 2016 #7
what the fuck. barbtries Aug 2016 #6
hollywood tv script writters are up early knocking out a tv episode with this plot twist dembotoz Aug 2016 #8
Police should not do live-fire exercises with real people... malthaussen Aug 2016 #9
We did this all the time in the Marines. With dummy guns. Recursion Aug 2016 #12
This is horrible question everything Aug 2016 #10
In the military we used dummy guns for these things Recursion Aug 2016 #11
Where was the good guy with a gun to save her? n/t Binkie The Clown Aug 2016 #13
Charge the officer with negligent homicide. christx30 Aug 2016 #14
The officer, the commanding officer, the range safety officer, every God-damned one of them Recursion Aug 2016 #17
one adam 12 sadie jones Aug 2016 #15
Fucking morons Blue_Tires Aug 2016 #16
Cop should be charged ga_girl Aug 2016 #18

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
3. Where else ... but Florida ... seriously, something is WRONG about that state ...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 05:47 AM
Aug 2016

How does someone taking part in ...

Nevermind I can't even spell out the STUPID.

Apologies to FL DU'ers, but ... damn, what a fucked up State.

RIP Ms. Knowlton. Thoughts go out to her family ...

vinny9698

(1,016 posts)
4. I guess they forgot not to play cops and robbers with real loaded guns
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 05:51 AM
Aug 2016

Failed the basic safety test. Not to play with weapons, especially loaded.

Dale Neiburg

(698 posts)
7. My local PD has citizens' police acadmies
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:38 AM
Aug 2016

that include simulation exercises like this. But they use guns that have been modified to shoot only simunition (essentially high-rent paint balls), and have bright blue barrels to mark them as such. Attempting to fire live ammunition from a modified gun will just cause it to jam.

Parenthetically, going through a CPA is a very valuable and eye-opening experience. I recommend them highly if your local PD offers one.

barbtries

(28,798 posts)
6. what the fuck.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:16 AM
Aug 2016

who's not being careful around guns? oh, police. aargh

and she's dead. play with guns, someone dies, call it an accident. USA, USA, USA

dembotoz

(16,806 posts)
8. hollywood tv script writters are up early knocking out a tv episode with this plot twist
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:06 AM
Aug 2016

did the victims husband have access to the officers gun?

tragic but kinda funny at the same time.....

malthaussen

(17,200 posts)
9. Police should not do live-fire exercises with real people...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:36 AM
Aug 2016

... it's dangerous enough for the military, let alone a bunch of civilians. And in the military, if someone screws up and kills someone, he is looking for a new job.

-- Mal

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
12. We did this all the time in the Marines. With dummy guns.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:59 AM
Aug 2016

I mean, can you imagine the fit a military range safety officer would throw if he saw an infantry unit doing this?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
11. In the military we used dummy guns for these things
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:26 AM
Aug 2016

We got a lot of shoot/don't training in the Marines; I don't recall ever using a functional weapon during them.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
14. Charge the officer with negligent homicide.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 03:06 PM
Aug 2016

He shouldn't be able to just say "Whoops..." and go on with his life. A woman is dead because of his carelessness and stupidity. He should be in prison for this. Any member of the public that did something this brain dead would be.
And that woman's estate should end up owning the police force after this.
Of course, this being the US, none of that is going to happen. The family is going to get a modest settlement in exchange for not suing the force. The cop will get some desk duty for a few weeks, then back on the street like he didn't miss a beat

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. The officer, the commanding officer, the range safety officer, every God-damned one of them
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 04:12 PM
Aug 2016

I was in the Marine Corps for 7 years. We would never have accepted this protocol. This is inexcusable.

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