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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:54 AM Aug 2016

Trump Suggests Clinton May Be Responsible for Execution of Iranian Nuclear Scientist

Source: Associated Press

Jill Colvin/Associated Press Aug. 9, 2016

Shahram Amiri defected to the U.S. at the height of Western efforts to thwart Iran's nuclear program

NEW YORK — Republican Donald Trump is suggesting that rival Hillary Clinton’s emails may be responsible for the death of an Iranian nuclear scientist who was executed for spying for the United States.

Hours after an unusually disciplined speech on his economic plan for the country, Trump, using the “people are saying” sentence structure he often favors to make accusations, tweeted Monday night: “Many people are saying that the Iranians killed the scientist who helped the U.S. because of Hillary Clinton’s hacked emails.”

He didn’t say which people he meant. The FBI has said there is no evidence that Clinton’s emails were hacked due to her use of a private account and server during her tenure as secretary of state. Also, the emails released by the State Department provide information similar to what U.S. officials had already discussed publicly at the time.

Tweeted back Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill:

“‘Many people are saying’=’I made this up.'”

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Read more: http://time.com/4444575/trump-suggests-clinton-may-be-responsible-for-execution-of-iranian-nuclear-scientist/

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Trump Suggests Clinton May Be Responsible for Execution of Iranian Nuclear Scientist (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2016 OP
Lots of people, I'm hearing many people. Saviolo Aug 2016 #1
Already been disproven. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #2
So, you think that matters to the wingnuts and flying monkey brigade? eom DonViejo Aug 2016 #3
Of course not. Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #4
Explain please. I need the ammo. Akicita Aug 2016 #9
Here you go: Kingofalldems Aug 2016 #10
Thank you much. Akicita Aug 2016 #11
Man, those emails should be the next Bond villain, they really get around ck4829 Aug 2016 #5
What Trump says can be previewed by watching the wingnuts on Discussionist muriel_volestrangler Aug 2016 #6
Also to Hurricane Katrina, the 1994 LA earthquake question everything Aug 2016 #7
Trump LIED!! Four Pinocchios Trump's remarkable suggestion that Clinton's emails led to an Iranian riversedge Aug 2016 #8
Every day he pulls the most ridiculous bullshit out smirkymonkey Aug 2016 #12

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
1. Lots of people, I'm hearing many people.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:13 AM
Aug 2016

Y'know, tons of people. Lots of people, I'm just hearing this, and they're asking these questions, and it's, let me just say, some of these people, they're important people, really great. The best people, and I'm hearing from a lot of these people that this is a problem. We've got a real problem here, and it's- I'm just hearing all of these people saying this. And I think we should really stop and figure out what's going on, because there's a real problem here.


... ugh, I feel dirty writing like that.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
5. Man, those emails should be the next Bond villain, they really get around
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:28 AM
Aug 2016

Killing people in Benghazi, executing nuclear scientists, it's like Skynet meets 007.

"James Bond will return in... You Only Sent That Email Twice"

muriel_volestrangler

(101,319 posts)
6. What Trump says can be previewed by watching the wingnuts on Discussionist
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 10:30 AM
Aug 2016

or, I'd guess, Free Republic, but I haven't looked at that recently. What the loons say one day will be in Trump's tweets that evening, and in his 'speech' the next day.

So, for instance, expect him to mention 'Seth Rich' today or tomorrow. He was a DNC staffer who was working on voting rights who was murdered (shot in the street) a month ago. Possibly a robbery, but it's not clear. But Assange has tried to blame the non-appearance of more leaks he'd promised about Hillary on the dangers his 'informants' face, pointing at Rich - though he weaseled out of making an explicit claim that Rich had given Wikileaks anything. But the Discussionist loons are going crazy about it, so Trump will fasten onto that quicker than an Arcturan Megaleech.

riversedge

(70,234 posts)
8. Trump LIED!! Four Pinocchios Trump's remarkable suggestion that Clinton's emails led to an Iranian
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:39 AM
Aug 2016




TWEET:

Trump LIED!! Four Pinocchios Trump's remarkable suggestion that Clinton's emails led to an Iranian defector's death



Fact Checker
Trump’s remarkable suggestion that Clinton’s emails led to an Iranian defector’s death

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/09/trumps-remarkable-suggestion-that-clintons-emails-led-to-an-iranian-defectors-death/?postshare=1691470836974566&tid=ss_tw


By Glenn Kessler August 9 at 12:32 PM

Donald Trump. (Joshua Lott/Getty Images)

“Sean, we’ve got to get to the bottom of it. We’ve got to find out whether Mr. Amiri, who was executed this last weekend, was essentially, he became public because of the revelations in Hillary Clinton’s email. … It is heartbreaking to think that someone who would have cooperated, as reports indicated, with the United States and with our interests, to the security of our nation, would have lost their life because of the recklessness and carelessness of Hillary Clinton using a private server. We don’t know that that’s the case, it’s being reported, but we absolutely have to get to the bottom of it. The American people have a right to know.”

— GOP vice presidential nominee Mike Pence, on the Sean Hannity radio show, Aug. 8, 2016


The Trump campaign has been asking questions about whether the execution in Iran of a former defector to the United States was related to Hillary Clinton’s private email server. The insinuation is that somehow her emails led to the Iranian scientist’s death. As Pence put it, he could have lost his life “because of the recklessness and carelessness of Hillary Clinton using a private server.”

Here’s a tweet from Trump, using his favorite locution (“many people are saying”) for making a claim without actually saying it himself:...........................


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The Pinocchio Test


As can be seen with this timeline of newspaper articles, the defection and then return of Amiri was widely covered in the news media in 2009 and 2010. Iranian officials could have learned everything they needed to know about Amiri’s defection from reading The Post. Moreover, Iran first publicly raised questions about his disappearance. There was little to be learned from the cryptic messages in Clinton’s emails, even if Iran had somehow gained access to Clinton’s server.

Mystery solved! And four more Pinocchios for Donald Trump.
Four Pinocchios
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
12. Every day he pulls the most ridiculous bullshit out
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 12:12 AM
Aug 2016

of his ass and flings it at the media like poo. He's not even TRYING to come close to the truth. He just blatantly likes like a mofo because he knows his idiot base will eat it up with a spoon and the media will spin his lies into half-truths.

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