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question everything

(47,484 posts)
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 07:52 PM Aug 2016

Texas attorney general says professors face discipline if they ban guns

Source: FoxNews

College professors in Texas could face disciplinary measures if they prohibit handguns to be brought into their classrooms, state Attorney General Ken Paxton said Monday.

Paxton filed a motion this week to dismiss a federal lawsuit brought last month by three professors at the University of Texas at Austin seeking to block the campus carry law, which took effect Aug.1.

Texas has allowed licensed concealed handguns in public since 1995 but had previously made college buildings off limits.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/10/texas-attorney-general-says-professors-face-discipline-if-ban-guns.html



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Texas attorney general says professors face discipline if they ban guns (Original Post) question everything Aug 2016 OP
Time for the professors to take a stand. olddad56 Aug 2016 #1
as a professor and proud UT-Austin grad.... cab67 Aug 2016 #2
In Texas, the 2A apparently Trumps the 1A jpak Aug 2016 #3
Is this from the onion? padfun Aug 2016 #4
Time for Paxton to resign. He has been indicted for 3 felonies already and walkingman Aug 2016 #5
Texas, Florida, Arizona. . .three way race for which state is the USA's biggest black eye Feeling the Bern Aug 2016 #6
Yeah, you guys do not have Austin... Lithos Aug 2016 #11
I'm a professor in Kansas greymattermom Aug 2016 #12
And if one is discharged by accident - as it will happen question everything Aug 2016 #13
How does that work exactly Lithos Aug 2016 #14
Right, because we haven't screwed up the teaching profession at colleges enough already. LisaM Aug 2016 #7
I would move,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2016 #8
I'm doing a contingency plan... a la izquierda Aug 2016 #19
Texas... Is it too late to give it back to Mexico? farmbo Aug 2016 #9
To be honest... Lithos Aug 2016 #15
I live in El Paso agingdem Aug 2016 #28
She should be fine Lithos Aug 2016 #31
If concealed carry has worked int he rest of the state without the carnage expected by many then why Akicita Aug 2016 #10
Not sure how much "it has worked" question everything Aug 2016 #16
Concealed carry has a track record in Texas. So far no big uptick in murders by concealed carry Akicita Aug 2016 #17
how nice, the world consists of gun owners and "soft targets" nt msongs Aug 2016 #18
I'm sincerely curious. Who are the terrorists you are talking about? montana_hazeleyes Aug 2016 #20
Anyone, foreign or domestic, who would attack a school or other soft target to try and kill as many Akicita Aug 2016 #27
"This will happen. Someday, someplace." That claim has been made at DU for years friendly_iconoclast Aug 2016 #23
No doubt, elementary schools are soft targets as well... LanternWaste Aug 2016 #25
Can you bring a gun to the AG office? Historic NY Aug 2016 #21
Of course not SwankyXomb Aug 2016 #30
Rightfully so... TipTok Aug 2016 #22
Hence the reason prohibition was morally and ethically correct. LanternWaste Aug 2016 #26
There are legitimate ways to change policy and laws... TipTok Aug 2016 #29
Because every CCW person has had such intensive, intensive and monthly training to Loki Aug 2016 #24

padfun

(1,786 posts)
4. Is this from the onion?
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:11 PM
Aug 2016

I mean really? Some idiot thinks it's just fine to have a bunch of hormonal challenged teens to be in a crowded room and be armed?

Twilight Zone!! Seriously!!

walkingman

(7,620 posts)
5. Time for Paxton to resign. He has been indicted for 3 felonies already and
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:14 PM
Aug 2016

the voters knew it before he was elected. Stupidistan - Lone Brain Cell State

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
6. Texas, Florida, Arizona. . .three way race for which state is the USA's biggest black eye
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:18 PM
Aug 2016

I lean towards Arizona, simply because I'm from there and we have that shitstain Arpaio!

question everything

(47,484 posts)
13. And if one is discharged by accident - as it will happen
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:02 PM
Aug 2016

you will have many guns going at once, people shooting at each other.

Wonderful.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
14. How does that work exactly
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:02 PM
Aug 2016

Have you had a student you feared and had to call campus security as a result? How does that work with residency and/or hospital practicums?

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
7. Right, because we haven't screwed up the teaching profession at colleges enough already.
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:22 PM
Aug 2016

Let's just throw this in. That'll help attract talent.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
8. I would move,,,,,
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 08:28 PM
Aug 2016

Right now , TX is a dead end for teaching at all levels.........I hear they don't pay that well either......

a la izquierda

(11,795 posts)
19. I'm doing a contingency plan...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:38 PM
Aug 2016

Because WV can't help but try hard to be the dumbest state in the nation (for its politics). I'm sure guns on campus is what the legislation will be this year...and I'll tender my resignation

farmbo

(3,122 posts)
9. Texas... Is it too late to give it back to Mexico?
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:48 PM
Aug 2016

What the hey...we'll pay them to take it... If they'll carve out Austin & San Antonio.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
15. To be honest...
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:03 PM
Aug 2016

El Paso, Houston, Ft. Worth and Dallas proper are not bad - the suburbs suck... Austin has the same issue with Wilco and Hayes...

L-

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
31. She should be fine
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 03:31 PM
Aug 2016

The law itself is stupid and will have minimal effect to the campus situation. No long guns, and only handguns with a concealed weapons permit that requires the person be 21 years old.

The law is stupid because people who are going to cause trouble are going to do it anyway. What it is going to do is make it much harder for Campus security and city cops to distinguish between good and bad people when a situation does happen. This is a pandering by our Lege who would rather spend State money and time on these stupid issues than solving real ones.

I believe UT has a very good phone-based emergency alert system when there are issues. I would make sure she has this setup. I would also make sure she understands how to live on an urban campus, especially at night.

L-

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
10. If concealed carry has worked int he rest of the state without the carnage expected by many then why
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 09:56 PM
Aug 2016

not try it on college campuses? No more soft targets for terrorists.

question everything

(47,484 posts)
16. Not sure how much "it has worked"
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:04 PM
Aug 2016

These are not experienced law enforcers. You will have a gun discharge by accident - does happen - or someone panic because he thought he heard a gun shot, and the next thing you have people shooting at each other.

This will happen. Someday, someplace. Not that it will change anyone's mind.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
17. Concealed carry has a track record in Texas. So far no big uptick in murders by concealed carry
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:10 PM
Aug 2016

holders. Why then not try it on soft targets like college campuses where terrorists are likely to strike?

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
20. I'm sincerely curious. Who are the terrorists you are talking about?
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 11:52 PM
Aug 2016

In most of the school shootings, they were done by local, white young men. I remember back to Charles Whitman in Texas in the sixties. There have been many, of those. Are those the terrorists you are speaking about?

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
27. Anyone, foreign or domestic, who would attack a school or other soft target to try and kill as many
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:07 PM
Aug 2016

innocents as they can.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
23. "This will happen. Someday, someplace." That claim has been made at DU for years
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 04:34 AM
Aug 2016

For example:

OK so at present there may be no confirmable media accounts.
But to think it will never happen is just hiding ones head in the sand. It will happen and
it may happen to you.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x382537#382616

That was five years ago

Why, then, hasn't it happened already at colleges where it's already legal?
Guns on campuses for legal permit holders has been legal for years at state
colleges and universities in Washington, Alaska, and Utah.

AFAIK, there haven't been problems in these places, and this has been discussed at length
for years here at DU:

What *empirical* evidence do you have that legal CCW weapons at colleges are harmful?

And, yes, in this instance I am looking for confirmable media accounts.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x382537#382537

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x382537#382616

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x417737#417743

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/http:/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x322788

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php/http:/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x322788
 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
25. No doubt, elementary schools are soft targets as well...
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:00 PM
Aug 2016

"No more soft targets for terrorists..."

No doubt, elementary schools are soft targets as well...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
26. Hence the reason prohibition was morally and ethically correct.
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:04 PM
Aug 2016

"If it's legal, it's legal...."

Hence the reason prohibition was morally and ethically correct... unless of course, we realize that simplistic bumper-stickers are not a valid form of argument but rather, a ripe target of mocking by the rational mind.

 

TipTok

(2,474 posts)
29. There are legitimate ways to change policy and laws...
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 02:52 PM
Aug 2016

There are even ways to ethically disobey them as long as you are willing to take the consequences.

What people don't have the right to do is enforce their beliefs about a legal activity on other people.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
24. Because every CCW person has had such intensive, intensive and monthly training to
Thu Aug 11, 2016, 08:57 AM
Aug 2016

maintain their skills, they all think they are a one man/woman SWAT team. Just in case

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