Clinton: World may not succeed in Syria

[maddezmom]

Source: CNN

Geneva, Switzerland (CNN) -- There is no guarantee that a sweeping new international agreement on Syria will succeed in ending the conflict there, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton conceded, as opposition activists said the number of dead had skyrocketed in recent months.

"There is no guarantee that we are going to be successful. I just hate to say that," Clinton told CNN.

But she expressed optimism that a new agreement hammered out Saturday would help ease President Bashar al-Assad out of power.

The first plan backed by Russia and China as well as the West, it calls for a transitional government as a step towards ending the 16-month uprising.

Opposition activists immediately criticized the deal as leaving open the possibility that al-Assad would remain in power.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/01/world/meast/syria-unrest/index.html

[may3rd]

1. If you fail to plan, 'plan to fail'

She knows what will replace Basher al Assad

[snot]

2. I'd be interested in informed opinions about what should be done re- Syria.

It seems intolerable to simply let it drag on while the population is slaughtered; and I fear it sets a bad precedent, encouraging other tyrants. Yet I'm generally very reluctant w.r.t. military intervention.

[David__77]

9. That's the same logic employed for every other US intervention, from Vietnam to Grenada.

Every US geopolitical aggression can be masked as "humanitarian." It's nonsense. Colonialism should be dead - it's old and new forms.

[ronnie624]

11. The unerlying premise

is that the U.S. has a preordained right to determine the political and economic destinies of smaller, weaker countries. It's a given, it seems, for most Americans, with no critical thought applied to questioning the logic of such chauvinism. The sentiment seems religious in nature.

[valerief]

3. WAR OIL RACKET WAR OIL RACKET WAR OIL RACKET WAR OIL RACKET.

Vietnam -- Oil
Kennedy -- didn't want to escalate military in Vietnam
Kennedy -- assassinated
Kennedy troops -- 16000
LBJ troops -- 500,000

It never changes.

[riderinthestorm]

4. First step is acknowledging the problem....

at least Clinton is being honest finally.

[Xolodno]

5. Translation...

The West will still not get the goverment they want installed. But Russia and China will.

[Poll_Blind]

6. Ding! Ding! Ding! nt

PB

[leveymg]

7. If the '82 failed Islamic Uprising is a benchmark, (50-100K killed), this is far from over.

I think that's the truth behind Hillary's message.

For a short account of that chapter in this ongoing intra-Islamic war, please see:

http://www.enotes.com/topic/Islamic_uprising_in_Syria

[schmice]

8. Just stop for a minute and think.

I thought that we were not the cops of the world anymore. Why should we now pretend to take the high road and back regime change on the grounds that we have to save a people from it's murderous government. Perhaps the ultimate hypocrisy is that even if Assad goes, everybody else will remain in place. Nothing will change, except maybe, for everyone patting themselves on the back at what a good job they did. Oh please. And then there's that senile Arizona Senator who wants to arm an opposition he knows nothing about and which is doubtless antagonistic to American interests in the region.

[may3rd]

10. The sizzle they sell is "democracy" as the reason the opposition has been inserted... err... armed

by 'outside interests'

A cease fire is brokered.... opposition declines.
a peace deal is brokered.... opposition declines......
It's not about Syrian oil and gas fields.......



This is more Saudi's war of containment than it is the US war for dominance... errr... democracy in our time.


http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2330/960/Covert_War_Waged_Against_Syria:_Chossudovsky.html
This is a great 20 minute recap rant


You have to ignore the network logo and listen to the "experts" they hand picked from around the globe from Beirut Lebanon, Montreal Canada and San Francisco Ca.

A very enlightened sparring match of opinions not often mentioned

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[schmice]

12. very good debate.

[cqo_000]

13. Clinton can insist Assad must go until she is blue in the face, but it won't make Russia agree.