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brooklynite

(94,740 posts)
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:54 PM Sep 2016

Clinton Says She May Not Choose Garland for Supreme Court

Source: Bloomberg

Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton said she wouldn’t be bound by President Barack Obama’s nomination of Merrick Garland to the Supreme Court, hinting that she would consider a bolder choice if she takes office in January with the seat still unfilled.

Clinton would "look broadly and widely for people who represent the diversity of our country" if she has the opportunity to make "any" Supreme Court nominations, she said in a radio interview that aired Thursday on the Tom Joyner Morning Show.

The comments are Clinton’s most specific yet on how she would handle the 7-month-old vacancy. They offer hope to progressives who say the Supreme Court nomination should go to a younger, more liberal jurist and possibly to a racial minority or woman. Garland turns 64 in November, is white and is widely considered an ideological moderate.

Clinton said she wouldn’t ask Obama to withdraw Garland’s nomination after Election Day, leaving open the possibility he could be confirmed with her implicit blessing in a congressional lame-duck session.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-15/hillary-clinton-hints-she-may-not-renominate-garland-for-court?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics

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Clinton Says She May Not Choose Garland for Supreme Court (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2016 OP
That could be a very clever way PatSeg Sep 2016 #1
Agree Renew Deal Sep 2016 #6
Yes: turns up the heat now, but keeps her own options open. K&R, nt appal_jack Sep 2016 #8
My first reaction too ... BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #22
First thing I considered LynneSin Sep 2016 #33
Hillary is really shrewd PatSeg Sep 2016 #39
smart! n/t OKNancy Sep 2016 #2
Good, I want a liberal court justice. ffr Sep 2016 #3
I'm sure there will be PatSeg Sep 2016 #10
He deserved to have Garland confirmed months ago NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #24
I think you're right PatSeg Sep 2016 #38
If Garland does come up for a vote now, Dems have a tough choice William Seger Sep 2016 #4
Not gonna happen. But repubs may choose to vote on Garland after Hillary wins Rose Siding Sep 2016 #7
They will be racing to confirm Garland in lame duck if Hillary wins democrattotheend Sep 2016 #13
Might be too late by then; I think a lot of Dems would probably vote no (nt) William Seger Sep 2016 #21
I dont think its a tough choice for them since Trump winning is unlikely still. cstanleytech Sep 2016 #9
It wouldn't be tough at all. They would confirm Garland. Xithras Sep 2016 #25
Agree that Garland can be confirmed IF the Republicans move on it prior to the election ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #40
no. for the dems the question should be 'who is president right now?' if the answer is obama La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #31
This'll keep her straight! yallerdawg Sep 2016 #5
They won't give her the choice caraher Sep 2016 #11
Good news! democrattotheend Sep 2016 #12
GOP Obstructionism Round 2 bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #14
Well played, Secretary, well played! lark Sep 2016 #15
I hope it's somebody more liberal. ananda Sep 2016 #16
Smart move, but maybe she could have said that louis-t Sep 2016 #17
Bill. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #18
I want to see her put three liberals under the age of 40 on the court. onehandle Sep 2016 #19
Maybe they should have enough experience under their belt. Demit Sep 2016 #27
def not under 40 but 50-ish is a good age La Lioness Priyanka Sep 2016 #32
I love Garland, but at this point he is the wrong choice for the country... Firebrand Gary Sep 2016 #20
"They offer hope to progressives... LiberalLovinLug Sep 2016 #23
She should nominate Obama for SCOTUS. JaneQPublic Sep 2016 #26
That was my first thought, as well. She described Obama to a "T"...talk about rubbing their noses Frustratedlady Sep 2016 #28
You think they would have learned by now not to try playing tic-tac-toe... 47of74 Sep 2016 #35
I hope she doesn't lame54 Sep 2016 #29
To keep GOP honest Clinton needs to maintain the right to select younger and more liberal nominee Gothmog Sep 2016 #30
Hopefully she'll ask President Obama if he would be willing to serve. 47of74 Sep 2016 #34
Taft did it, I can't see why Obama can't. Odin2005 Sep 2016 #37
Translation: "Confirm Garland or I nominate a super-progressive!" Odin2005 Sep 2016 #36

PatSeg

(47,608 posts)
39. Hillary is really shrewd
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 05:16 PM
Sep 2016

I can picture republicans in Congress going, "Oh shit!" as they contemplate what they're in for the next four or eight years.

ffr

(22,672 posts)
3. Good, I want a liberal court justice.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 12:58 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:03 PM - Edit history (1)

The swing from Scalia to a liberal will change the court for the remainder of my life.

PatSeg

(47,608 posts)
10. I'm sure there will be
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:26 PM
Sep 2016

one or two more openings on the Supreme Court in the next few years. I think Obama deserves to have his nominee confirmed. Hillary will have her own.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
24. He deserved to have Garland confirmed months ago
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:37 PM
Sep 2016

but, I have a feeling that if Clinton wins the presidency and Democrats retake the senate, Republicans will rush to confirm Garland in the lame duck session in fear of Clinton nominating Goodwin Liu or similar instead of Garland.

PatSeg

(47,608 posts)
38. I think you're right
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 05:10 PM
Sep 2016

Over the years, Obama has bent over backwards to compromise with these republicans, but they were determined to never give an inch. I hope Hillary gets to nominate some justices that will give them nightmares for years. They just can't learn how to play nice.

William Seger

(10,779 posts)
4. If Garland does come up for a vote now, Dems have a tough choice
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:04 PM
Sep 2016

... based on how confident they are that Hillary will win.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
7. Not gonna happen. But repubs may choose to vote on Garland after Hillary wins
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:19 PM
Sep 2016

-but before she takes office. Glad she's supporting Obama's choice AND signaling the possibility of a more liberal pick if they DON'T bring him up. It puts pressure on them to consider Pres O's choice.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
13. They will be racing to confirm Garland in lame duck if Hillary wins
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:39 PM
Sep 2016

If President Obama gives them the option. He could withdraw the nomination, but he probably won't.

cstanleytech

(26,319 posts)
9. I dont think its a tough choice for them since Trump winning is unlikely still.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:25 PM
Sep 2016

The Republicans though are the ones facing a tough one and they are going to have to answer to the voters for it because they were the ones that gambled that a Republican would win the Presidency and that they could get enough majority conservative justices pack into the courts to have their dreams of an America based around the The Handmaidens Tale come true.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
25. It wouldn't be tough at all. They would confirm Garland.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:50 PM
Sep 2016

Garland may not be the most liberal judge in the country, but there's no question that he's still solidly center-left and would be helpful to progressive causes. I can't imagine a scenario in which the Senate Democrats would pass up a guaranteed center-left SC justice, nominated by a Democratic President, on the HOPE that the incoming President MIGHT nominate someone even further to the left.

It's far more likely that the Senate Democrats would confirm him as quickly as possible, and try to get a more progressive choice for future nominations (and Clinton will have AT LEAST one more while in office).

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
40. Agree that Garland can be confirmed IF the Republicans move on it prior to the election
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 06:07 PM
Sep 2016

I think Hillary has gotten really smart lately about tactics.

If Congress Republicans want to confirm Garland prior to the election, the Dems will go along because that's (1) a bird in the hand, and (2) respectful to Obama, who deserves a lot of respect.

If Hillary wins, as is the most likely outcome, then anything can happen. She is serving notice that anything can happen, probably (imho) to pressure the Republicans to show some respect and confirm Obama's appointee now while they know they still can.

During the lame duck, the ball is in Obama's court. He can withdraw the appointment or leave it stand. Obviously the Republicans would try to approve Garland during the lame duck if given the chance. If it does come to a vote, Democrats ought to approve it out of respect for all Obama has done and is continuing to do -- I mean, he's out there campaigning, not just for Hillary, but for all Democrats (if you heard the speech); and he's going at it 100% too. If he leaves the nomination stand, the Dems should approve it. It should be up to him if he wants to change his mind. He's still president.

Hillary knows that -- when she says she won't ask Obama to withdraw the nomination, her underlying message is that everybody should show still-President Obama the respect he deserves. That's the only interpretation I can see for her saying that she will not ask him to withdraw his appointee after the election.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
31. no. for the dems the question should be 'who is president right now?' if the answer is obama
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:23 PM
Sep 2016

then they should confirm his nominee.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. This'll keep her straight!
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:08 PM
Sep 2016
"I think we should stick with one president at a time," Clinton said. "I’m going to let this president serve out his term with distinction and make the decisions that he thinks are right for the country."

caraher

(6,279 posts)
11. They won't give her the choice
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:26 PM
Sep 2016

If she wins there will be a confirmation in the lame duck session. Guaranteed.

But this is very smart for her to say, and I'm glad she's thinking it.

democrattotheend

(11,607 posts)
12. Good news!
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:38 PM
Sep 2016

Garland is appealing in some ways, but I would rather have someone more liberal. This is a good idea to energize the base.

bucolic_frolic

(43,305 posts)
14. GOP Obstructionism Round 2
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:41 PM
Sep 2016

will begin in January if she wins

They will stall and filibuster and complain and point to the Scalia Gods

In any given election cycle we really need to win more Senate seats

lark

(23,158 posts)
15. Well played, Secretary, well played!
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:43 PM
Sep 2016

Make them think twice about obstructing him further for fear she'll nominate someone even less to their liking.

Of course, that probably won't matter because they think they'll retain the Senate and just block anything and everything she does.

louis-t

(23,297 posts)
17. Smart move, but maybe she could have said that
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:51 PM
Sep 2016

6 months ago. We would have the seat filled by now. She was further ahead in the polls 6 months ago, wasn't she?

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
19. I want to see her put three liberals under the age of 40 on the court.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:02 PM
Sep 2016

Odds are pretty good she'll be placing at least three.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
27. Maybe they should have enough experience under their belt.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:04 PM
Sep 2016

And have demonstrated their judicial thinking.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
23. "They offer hope to progressives...
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:19 PM
Sep 2016

...who say the Supreme Court nomination should go to a younger, more liberal jurist"

or...is it more likely to to go the other way? That is a very slim hope indeed.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
26. She should nominate Obama for SCOTUS.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:57 PM
Sep 2016

Of course, if she signals that move before being inaugurated, the GOPers will confirm Garland in a New York minute.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
28. That was my first thought, as well. She described Obama to a "T"...talk about rubbing their noses
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:10 PM
Sep 2016

in it.

Like so many of the other "tricks" they've pulled where Obama came right back at them with his chess game moves, this would be SO fitting. They always think they are so clever. The highlights of Obama's career for me has been watching the Repubs wilt when they caught on they'd just been had. McConnell is the best "wilter" of the bunch! He even reverts back to the green pallor of his "ancestors".

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
35. You think they would have learned by now not to try playing tic-tac-toe...
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:38 PM
Sep 2016

...when the game is 128 dimensional chess and their opponent is a grand master of that kind of chess.

Gothmog

(145,595 posts)
30. To keep GOP honest Clinton needs to maintain the right to select younger and more liberal nominee
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:14 PM
Sep 2016

The only way that Garland will be confirmed is if the GOP is worried that President Hillary Clinton will pick a much younger and far more liberal SCOTUS nominee

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
34. Hopefully she'll ask President Obama if he would be willing to serve.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 03:36 PM
Sep 2016

If we could get him in as a SC Justice reich wing heads would be exploding for the next 20 years.

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