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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:32 PM Sep 2016

Debate Commission Now Says Trump Had Audio 'Issues' Monday Night

Source: Talking Points Memo

After Donald Trump complained that his microphone at the first presidential debate was "terrible," the Commission on Presidential Debates issued a short statement Friday saying that the Republican nominee's audio had "issues."

"Regarding the first debate, there were issues regarding Donald Trump's audio that affected the sound level in the debate hall," the statement from the debate commission read.

-snip-

"I had a problem with a microphone that didn't work," he said on "Fox and Friends" Tuesday morning. "My microphone was terrible. I wonder, was it set up that way on purpose? My microphone, in the room they couldn't hear me, you know, it was going on and off. Which isn't exactly great. I wonder if it was set up that way, but it was terrible."

The one-sentence statement from the debate commission did not suggest that the audio issues Trump experienced affected the television broadcast of the debate.



Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/debate-commission-trump-microphone

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Debate Commission Now Says Trump Had Audio 'Issues' Monday Night (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2016 OP
You Got To Be Kidding....nt global1 Sep 2016 #1
TV wasn't affected radical noodle Sep 2016 #2
Well, that certainly negates everything horrible that we thought he said. forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #37
Oops duped you underpants Sep 2016 #3
That's my first thought too. Delphinus Sep 2016 #35
There was nothing wrong with the broadcast, if anything it was only inside the hall. There.... George II Sep 2016 #4
Nobody who was inside ever said anything about the sound except Trump world wide wally Sep 2016 #36
Technically, that wouldn't be a problem with the MICROPHONE… regnaD kciN Sep 2016 #5
Ding, ding, ding!! MountainMama Sep 2016 #51
Did the microphone put words in trump's mouth? still_one Sep 2016 #6
Obviously not. Microphone words are smarter. lady lib Sep 2016 #28
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Sep 2016 #33
Who in their right mind madokie Sep 2016 #7
That's not a fair comparison. Wilms Sep 2016 #13
Yup ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #24
My late great border collie, Sally, was a great driver but she was easily distracted.... Brother Buzz Sep 2016 #27
Awwww! What a sweetie! smirkymonkey Sep 2016 #47
She was a twice-rescued dog with some issues that were ultimately resolved with a lot of work... Brother Buzz Sep 2016 #50
Awww! Very cute! How good of you to rescue them! smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #60
Sounds like Roxy had you well trained. Botany Sep 2016 #31
Madokie, don't damn your beautiful border collie with such faint praise! bellmartin Oct 2016 #63
Are you freaking kidding me? LynneSin Sep 2016 #8
Could be he did not know at the time that the people in the hall could not hear. ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #29
He kept moving the microphone, which could have caused any problem that existed. George II Sep 2016 #39
Good point. ColemanMaskell Oct 2016 #66
Well, the audience did burst out in woops at the meantion of the emails..... sdfernando Sep 2016 #43
Audio can be tricky PJMcK Sep 2016 #9
Not evident on the broadcast! longship Sep 2016 #10
Trump's only "audio issue" is that people were able to hear him. Orrex Sep 2016 #11
No problem with your mic Donald-your Annoying sniffles came though loud and clear. riversedge Sep 2016 #12
what didn't work is hillary kept talking through his interruptions. unblock Sep 2016 #14
Sure Donnie... your debate preparation was just fine... the mic caused all the bad stuff groundloop Sep 2016 #15
*Sniff*... *Sniff* Hayduke Bomgarte Sep 2016 #16
Good. truthisfreedom Sep 2016 #17
Given his gawdawful performance Mme. Defarge Sep 2016 #18
This asshole needed more preparation - Preparation H. TheCowsCameHome Sep 2016 #19
And here I thought this weekend benld74 Sep 2016 #20
do-over! DO-OVER ! More debates !! Let's drag this game out . . . ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #21
So all the stupid stuff he said was really the microphone? CNN is trying to say it knocked him off Laser102 Sep 2016 #22
really? getagrip_already Sep 2016 #26
The system is rigged! inwiththenew Sep 2016 #23
o, ffs n/t hibbing Sep 2016 #25
Sh!!t Friend or Foe Sep 2016 #30
I video streamed AND recorded the debate and nowhere did I ever hear any audio issues beachbum bob Sep 2016 #32
It didn't affect the tv or streams, only the audience loudspeakers bananas Oct 2016 #62
really who cares what the audience heard.....84 million heard the trump beachbum bob Oct 2016 #65
No one in the hall seemed to notice. C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #34
Thanks, Obama! world wide wally Sep 2016 #38
The only audio problem was that he opened his mouth packman Sep 2016 #40
The real issue was due to Trump opening his mouth. nt cstanleytech Sep 2016 #41
Unfortunately for you Don, we heard you perfectly clear Bradical79 Sep 2016 #42
Well, at least his makeup wasn't melting. blogslut Sep 2016 #44
Bull Shit. INdemo Sep 2016 #45
Sniff I cerntainly sniff didn't have sniff a problem sniff hearing his arrogance loud & clear sniff The Genealogist Sep 2016 #46
84 million people heard every deplorable word BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #48
His biggest issue was his sniffing. WhiteHat Sep 2016 #49
Soooo... Working the refs cast the doubt once again. Hugin Sep 2016 #52
His personallity disorder does not allow him to take ANY responsibility for ANYTHING. He is KewlKat Sep 2016 #53
Unfortunately for Trump the microphone was turned to "ON" rurallib Sep 2016 #54
Frightening dumb animals like that could cause a stampede. Ford_Prefect Sep 2016 #55
Heard Him erpowers Sep 2016 #56
Stop whinning you weasel, kacekwl Sep 2016 #57
Bwahhh! Welcome to the big leagues Donald. zonkers Sep 2016 #58
Ha! Now he's got the debate commission lying. n/t ReRe Oct 2016 #59
Where's the League of Women Voters when you need 'em? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2016 #61
I'm an audio engineer TrogL Oct 2016 #64
So he's upset he couldn't feed off proper audience response? Panich52 Oct 2016 #67

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. There was nothing wrong with the broadcast, if anything it was only inside the hall. There....
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:38 PM
Sep 2016

....were only a couple of hundred people there live, no big deal.

If there WAS a serious problem, why didn't anyone say anything at the time?

regnaD kciN

(26,045 posts)
5. Technically, that wouldn't be a problem with the MICROPHONE…
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:39 PM
Sep 2016

…but with the audio chain downstream of where it went to the television feed.

It's quite possible that happened; it might have even been somewhat distracting. But, if you can let audio talkback issues stress you out to the point where they make you turn in a shambolic performance like Monday night's, how are you going to handle REAL pressure, like an international crisis?


madokie

(51,076 posts)
7. Who in their right mind
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:40 PM
Sep 2016

would even want to hear what he has to say about anything. My late border collie made more sense than tRump.

I swear that if something would have happened to me while we were out going down the road in our pickup that incapacitated me I believe if she could have reached the pedals she could have and would have got me to help.

I so miss Roxy our family member, some call pets

Beautiful girl she was

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
24. Yup
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:10 PM
Sep 2016

Agreed, dogs are reliable. I'd take my poodle-mix over the likes of Trump anytime, more so in a crisis. At least you know that if the dog can do anything at all, the dog will work for you 100%, and not against you.

Brother Buzz

(36,463 posts)
27. My late great border collie, Sally, was a great driver but she was easily distracted....
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:16 PM
Sep 2016

especially when we drove past a band of sheep.

Brother Buzz

(36,463 posts)
50. She was a twice-rescued dog with some issues that were ultimately resolved with a lot of work...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 06:23 PM
Sep 2016

and play.

She also had an advanced degree in physics: she instinctively knew where the ball would be before it even ricocheted off a wall.

We miss her dearly, but we have another rescue dog to help fill the void: PEARL, the WONDER DOG (the doppelganger's eyes are fine, she was just leery of everything early on)

Botany

(70,582 posts)
31. Sounds like Roxy had you well trained.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:25 PM
Sep 2016

BTW my neighbors used to have a little female border collie and she
had total command over my 90 pound black lab.

Maybe your post is a sign to all of us to go and pet our dogs and forget
about what that little fingered cheeto colored shit gibbon says.

BTW part 2 Trump in the debate had one sentence where he spoke about
ISIS' web sites, bad trade deals and General Douglas MacArthur. And I really
don't think that pile of codswallop was because of any technical issues with
the mic and or audio but because Trump is full on crazy.

bellmartin

(218 posts)
63. Madokie, don't damn your beautiful border collie with such faint praise!
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:35 PM
Oct 2016

She could probably beat trump in a spelling contest. More seriously, if someone would devise some sort of 100-task test to measure real intelligence, I think it would be no contest. Roxy would have humiliated him.

Bless Roxy and bless you. My not-young-anymore lovely border collie Jenny is happily pressed up against my calf as I write. I do feel your pain.

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
8. Are you freaking kidding me?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:45 PM
Sep 2016

If it's not working SAY SOMETHING

I wonder who put pressure on the Debate Committee?

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
29. Could be he did not know at the time that the people in the hall could not hear.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:21 PM
Sep 2016

That's his entire complaint apparently. People in the hall had trouble hearing him. Fair enough to note that for future reference and corrective action on subsequent debates. However, it does not affect the outcome from the viewpoint of anyone except those people in that hallway.

BUT there was an obvious problem with the elevation and tilt of the microphone, which caused him to bend forward whenever he spoke into it.

Presumably he could have tilted the mike up a bit to correct for that, but he did not. If that was not possible, he could have called for a hardware tech to correct it. If he cannot take action to do a small thing like adjust a microphone, how can he be expected to react to real-world emergencies? . . . Maybe complain after the fact that the weather channel should have warned him what devastation the hurricane would do? That scientists should have warned him about those earthquakes caused by fracking? Uh, scratch that last one, they are warning about that.

I agree with you that it is remarkably odd that he would not see and correct a minor equipment problem immediately, and it really makes you wonder what he would do when the first real emergency hits. (Hopefully we won't ever have to find out.)

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
66. Good point.
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 12:11 AM
Oct 2016

I did not watch the whole thing, just the highlights. He could have introduced problems by fiddling with the microphone during the part(s) I didn't see. Also if he created a problem himself it would explain another piece of information: He was complaining that the mic had been okay an hour earlier when he first tried it, and then it developed a problem after a short while. That could easily be an accurate observation (amazingly) if he introduced the problem himself by futzing around with the mic. Also in that same whining session he seemed to be adding to his tale(s) of woe: His alleged hardship(s) seemed to expand beyond the simple contention that the (relatively small) audience in the hall could not hear him well; In the expanded story his mic was acting up in various ways such as crackling sounds and similar loose-wire or mild feedback behaviour. If he was moving the mic around a lot, he could have introduced problems of that sort -- but I doubt it happened, because the audio was just fine in all the video material I played, and seemingly in everything heard by everyone else who's been commenting on it. But it could be that he messed the mic around enough to introduce distortion effects that only he could hear.

sdfernando

(4,941 posts)
43. Well, the audience did burst out in woops at the meantion of the emails.....
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:08 PM
Sep 2016

so that tells me they could hear him just fine.

And that wasn't the only time the audience "participated" either.

PJMcK

(22,048 posts)
9. Audio can be tricky
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:46 PM
Sep 2016

There are a lot of things that can affect an audio signal from the microphone, through the cables, mixer and outboard gear, into an amplifier and then sent to speakers.

In the case of Monday night's debate, each candidate had a single microphone but this would have been mixed and split into several busses or feeds. One buss would be the audio sent to the broadcast feed. Another buss would go to the speaker system in the auditorium. There were probably other feeds for other uses.

Accordingly, it's not really surprising that the television audio was fine but that there could have been something wrong in the house system. On another thread, I asked DUer brooklynite, who attended the debate, if he had any observations about the audio but I haven't received a response yet.

It's really irrelevant because the television audience heard and saw Mr. Trump just fine. Additionally, he couldn't have known about the audio problems until after the event so it wouldn't have affected his performance anyway.

groundloop

(11,523 posts)
15. Sure Donnie... your debate preparation was just fine... the mic caused all the bad stuff
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:56 PM
Sep 2016

Prepare for your next two debates exactly the way you did this one and you'll have nothing to worry about. The incompetent people who set up the sound system will be fired, you'll be assured of a great performance next time because you'll have a perfect mic (probably the greatest mic a presidential candidate has ever had).

Mme. Defarge

(8,042 posts)
18. Given his gawdawful performance
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:59 PM
Sep 2016

would this not have been to Trumps advantage? Could he have rigged the system to assure this outcome?

Laser102

(816 posts)
22. So all the stupid stuff he said was really the microphone? CNN is trying to say it knocked him off
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:04 PM
Sep 2016

his game. I have to ask, what game?

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
26. really?
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:11 PM
Sep 2016

so a mildly annoying technical issue can fluster him to the point of incoherence?

And they really want to go with that?

I'm down with that.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
32. I video streamed AND recorded the debate and nowhere did I ever hear any audio issues
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:26 PM
Sep 2016

seems bogus and some one aat debate commission giving whiney donald some cover for his pisspoor performance...which the audio would not play into it any ways.

its laughable

bananas

(27,509 posts)
62. It didn't affect the tv or streams, only the audience loudspeakers
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 07:01 PM
Oct 2016

They were probably trying to create a Dean Scream effect, where he'd be talking loudly for the audience to hear him, but people watching tv or online streams would think he was yelling for no reason.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/iowa-caucus-speech-howard-dean_us_56afbaf3e4b057d7d7c7ba8c

The Real Story Of The Most Memorable Iowa Concession Speech Of All Time

Twelve years later, they’re still talking about Howard Dean’s scream.
02/01/2016

<snip>

Dean’s microphone, it turned out, had been plugged directly into the television cameras. Inside the room, you could barely hear him over the crowd, but he appeared to be screeching to those watching on TV.

The campaign quickly sensed trouble. O’Connor’s cell phone buzzed when the speech was over, with a college roommate of Dean’s on the line.

“What’s wrong with Howard? Is he having a breakdown?” the roommate asked.

Yet Dean wouldn’t get his first inclination that “a moment” had taken place until two hours later, as he was getting on the plane heading to New Hampshire.

“Everybody was saying, ‘Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, this is awful,’” he said. “As I have said before, if I looked at myself giving that speech in an empty hall, I would have thought I was crazy.”



C_U_L8R

(45,020 posts)
34. No one in the hall seemed to notice.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:35 PM
Sep 2016

Nor did anyone at home.
The problem seems to be
somewhere between Trump's ears.
Concerning.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
45. Bull Shit.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 05:37 PM
Sep 2016

I watched the whole debate and never once did I not hear his every word..That is just total bullshit.
Its like the media,that is the Corporate mafia Media..They cannot help but keep propping dumb ass up every time the A-hole falls on his face.'

 

WhiteHat

(129 posts)
49. His biggest issue was his sniffing.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 06:14 PM
Sep 2016

The mic couldn't mask his nasal problem, whatever that was.

As far as legibility, he didn't have any problem interrupting Clinton. We all heard about his kid's facility with computers, for whatever that was worth. We all heard him bragging he paid no taxes, we all clearly heard him cheering for the worldwide financial crash. We all heard him loud and clear. So what was the problem, exactly? A bad mic doesn't change his words.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
53. His personallity disorder does not allow him to take ANY responsibility for ANYTHING. He is
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 06:51 PM
Sep 2016

ALWAYS right, others are always wrong. He's perfect, amazing, yuge you know where, still looks 35, in the mirror, a babe magnet, best business man in the world and can do everything alone.........so if the donald noticed something, why did he not say something.....nope, now has a reason for stinking at the debate.

rurallib

(62,448 posts)
54. Unfortunately for Trump the microphone was turned to "ON"
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:01 PM
Sep 2016

and humans could hear him.

Hope that doesn't happen again

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
56. Heard Him
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:56 PM
Sep 2016

I heard him loud and clear. Also, it seems to me that the people in the hall heard him loud and clear. They responded either positively or negatively to a number of things he said. How could the people in the hall respond to the things he said if they could not hear what he was saying? In addition, if the people in the hall could not hear him why did he not complain during the debate? Why did he not complain, about his microphone, immediately after the debate?

Furthermore, I do not think it was the fault of the microphone that he kept interrupting Secretary Clinton. I am fairly certain the microphone did not cause him to not present specifics about his policy plans. Most likely the microphone would plead not guilty if accused of making Trump say, "maybe that made [him] smart" if he had not paid income taxes for years. The microphone would not need a top notch defense attorney to get acquitted of the charge of forcing Trump to walk into Clinton's one-two punch of maybe if you paid your taxes our government would not be depleted.

It seems to me that the microphone was the least of Donald Trump's problems. The days after the debate no one was complaining about not being able to hear Trump's words. They were complaining about the things he said and the things he did. In fact, it might have been better for him if the microphone had been turned off.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
64. I'm an audio engineer
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:28 PM
Oct 2016

If Trump doesn't know how to behave behind a microphone in order to make himself understood, there's not much the engineer can do.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
67. So he's upset he couldn't feed off proper audience response?
Mon Oct 3, 2016, 03:47 PM
Oct 2016

The response that wasn't supposed to occur in the first place.

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