Politically vulnerable Democrats plan to back Obamacare repeal

[choie]

Source: Yahoo.com (the ticket)

The House's planned vote Wednesday to fully repeal Obamacare ultimately amounts to little more than political theater, given that House Republicans have made 30 previous attempts to repeal all or part of the law, all of which have gone nowhere in the Democrat-controlled Senate. But this week's vote does offer several politically vulnerable members a new chance to distinguish themselves on this hot-button issue.

Ahead of Wednesday's vote, at least two House Democrats have indicated plans to side with a majority of Republicans to reject portions of the law. Both face uncertain re-election odds.

The first to publicly confirm his vote for repeal was Democratic Rep. Larry Kissel of North Carolina.

"I voted against it originally and I will vote to repeal it," he first told the Charlotte Observer last week. Kissell voted against the health care law when it won overall passage in 2009. He did not vote for repeal in 2011.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/politically-vulnerable-democrats-plan-back-obamacare-repeal-191746511.html

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

1. Expect these idiots to lose their jobs come November

Which is why we will not win back the House. Fucking morons.

[LoisB]

4. I sure hope so. If I could afford it, I would run for the House myself. DAMNED PROUD LIBERAL

that I am.

[rhett o rick]

11. I sure as hell hope the DCCC isnt giving them money. nm

[wordpix]

40. if they're useless, no big loss. Hope there's time for a primary but probably not

[YOHABLO]

2. Only Kissell so far? Who else?

This is what is wrong with the Democratic Party .. is that we have these DINOs who vote with the Republicans. Blue Dog whatever .. why don't these people become Republicans? Perhaps, it's all part of the "plan".

[craigmatic]

3. They could've easily just stayed quiet or changed the subject. That's what a good politician would

do.

[randome]

15. You bet.

They are cowards and obviously not very smart.

[wordpix]

41. +1000, idiots have to announce their bad intentions for no good reason

[SCVDem]

5. Pick the most out of shape states

and that's where they'll be from.

I will defend my right to eat deep fried butter and get medical treatment at the ER where its free!

Now where's that Big Mac?

[progressivebydesign]

6. Another gem from Yahoo.. TWO guys??? Really?? this is newsworthy?

The way it's on their front page, considering most people don't read more than a headline, you'd think it was a mass protest or something. Two guys, and only one confirmed??? Wow... who owns yahoo news now? Murdoch?

Politically vulnerable now equals = spineless RINO jellyfish?

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

9. Any Democrat who wants to repeal the law should be reported on

Because they are not a real Democrat.

Stop killing the messenger. Who cares who or how it's reported, here is one, maybe two cowards who don't get it. Sadly, I wouldn't be shocked if more pull this shit.

[davidpdx]

34. I agree they should be "outed" for being cowards

but the person you replied to was making a point about Yahoo turning toward right wing propaganda machine, which is true.

[think]

7. Fuck them. They aren't Dems anyhow if they don't support healthcare

seriously

[primavera]

21. Unfortunately, if we disqualified Dems for all of their undemocratic positions...

... we'd have no Dems left at all. Seriously, what defines a Democrat anymore? Support for labor? Nope, we chucked that one overboard. Protection of the environment? Hardly. Women's rights? Minority rights? Diplomacy over war? Rule of law? Few and far between are the Dems who stand up for their core constituencies anymore.

[think]

31. And that is why we get drones and bombs and the rest of the world gets

universal healthcare. Spineless Dems who are more or less Repugs and are willing to be corporate whores instead of representatives of the people.

The corporations are doing just fine. It's the people who need REAL representation not lip service from lying sacks of shit.

Sorry but if they are too big of pussies to fight for healthcare they probably suck on most other issues I consider Democrat values.

[DonCoquixote]

8. Make an example of these creeps

Primary their butts with real dems.

[bvar22]

26. We tried that in the Democratic Primary, Akansas, 2010.

We did everything right.
We had a popular, Pro-HealthCare/Pro-LABOR challenger,
Lt Gov Bill Halter,
to challenge virulently Anti-HealthCare/Anti-Labor Blue Dog Blanche Lincoln for her Senate seat.
She was actually campaigning as The Woman who derailed the Big Government take over of Health Care!

Bill Halter was polling well against the Republican in the coming General Election.
The Grass Roots were enthusiastic, the activists were out canvassing,
we had Union Support and money.
Lincoln's campaign was sputtering.
Things were going great.
We were more than happy to be doing so well at giving the President a Progressive Congress.

Guess what happened,
and who became our opponent in our attempt to give Obama a Progressive Congress.




"You will know them by their works."

[bluestateguy]

10. And rabid foam at the mouth teabaggers will still vote against them anyway

and core Democratic voters in their districts, every one of whose votes are needed, will leave that part of their ballots blank.

I guess they want to learn this the hard way.

[patrice]

13. Agreed.

[The Wizard]

12. How'd that strategy work in 2010? (NT)

[Ken Burch]

17. In 2010, right-wing Dems lost to people who were further right.

Lack of progressive support had NOTHING to do with that.

What 2010 proved(as 1994 had proved before)is that it truly doesn't WORK for Democratic Congresscritters to run to the right of a Democratic president. We should be nominating "Norma Rae" types in these districts, not losers like this. People even in the South will vote for candidates that fight for the little guy.

And really, the ACA isn't THAT unpopular.

Besides which, if you aren't even for that, what could you still disagree with the Right on anyway? It's not like there's that much else out there that really matters. Those kinds of Dems never vote to help working people, they never defend reproductive choice, they never stand up for the poor...and really, if they never do those things, there isn't anything else that means anything.

A couple of those assholes wouldn't even vote to re-elect Pelosi as speaker. Who needs anybody who's THAT disloyal? What the hell is the difference between electing somebody like that and just voting Republiban?

There simply isn't any part of the country that's so right-wing that all we can ask for is party-idenfication-and-that's-it. And no, voting for health protections for 9/11 first responders isn't a meaningful difference.

[patrice]

14. 3rd Party those f*-ers. Green Party 'em. Nothin' for us to lose anyway with DINOs.

[Ken Burch]

16. Whatever.

Disgusting, but whatever.

And, really, pointless on their part. Nobody who wants the ACA repealed is going to agree with the Democratic Party on any OTHER issues. If you're right-wing on that, you're automatically right-wing on everything else.

In 2014, all those guys need to be primaried. We don't NEED candidates who are only in the party because they're still mad at Lincoln.

[MsPithy]

18. Then, they will lose.

Which is what typically happens to losers.

Why does anyone vote for Republican-lite, when they can vote for real Republicans? Somebody famous said that, I can't remember who.

A better strategy would be to blast full on support for health care, the vast majority of Americans love what's in it, and defend women against Republican Neanderthals and get new Democratic voters to the polls. I guess what I'm saying is Be Fucking Democrats! Ask Howard Dean about the 50 state strategy.

[jaysunb]

19. They won't "lose,lose."

There's a pot of gold waiting at the lobby or consulting farm.

[The Wizard]

32. It was Harry Truman

who said given the choice between a real Republican and someone pretending to be one, the voter will go with the real republican every time.

[muntrv]

20. It doesn't matter, Kissel! You will lose either way!

[schmice]

22. Bue Dog Democrats were mostly all thrown out of office in the last election.

These Blue dogs think they will fare any better? Get your CV's ready boys. You're going to be needing them after November. On the other hand, maybe not. I'm sure they are already hooked up with lobbying organizations.

[gmpierce]

24. not quite

Actually only about half of the Blue Dogs were thrown out, and too many of them were replaced by TeaParty idiots.

If there are any actual Democrats out there they might be able to win - once the Republicans are through showing who they are.

[klook]

23. JFC!

Just pathetic. What good are they then? To quote Edwin Starr, "Absolutely Nothin'!"

[pscot]

25. Idiots

They're too stupid to be in Congress.

[JaneQPublic]

27. What they need to win ain't a more conservative voting record;

What they need is a spinal column.

[denvine]

28. Rather than trying to educate their constituency to the benefits of the law and rebutting the lies,

they are cowering to the conservatives. The achilles heel of the Democratic Party.

[think]

29. bingo!

[KurtNYC]

30. Repealing ACA is a fantasy.

This is insanity. ACA was Romney's baby. He isn't going to repeal it therefore voters have no choice on ACA this November.

[Carolina]

33. which just goes to show those so-called Dems

care only about winning elections and not one bit about what's good and moral.

If they lose, at least they should lose standing for something!

Let 'em side with the repukes and lose anyway; it would serve them right. The party should be purged of DINOs, blue dogs and plain ole wimps..

[Odin2005]

35. Cowardly Blue Dogs. If they want to act like Republicans...

Maybe they should become Republicans so we can run a REAL Democrat against them.

[bvar22]

36. Here is what Harry would say about THAT:

[font size=4]
"I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the Fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign."
---President Harry Truman

QED:2010[/font]


[font size=4]Leadership! "The Buck Stops HERE!" NO Excuses![/font]



---bvar22
old, and cursed with the memories of what DEMOCRATS used to be.

[yurbud]

37. Pelosi should grab these guys by the scruff of their necks and tell them to get out....

in their districts and sell Obamacare to their constituents or start looking for a new job.

[loyalkydem]

38. I hope

every last one of them loses. We need real democrats in office.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

39. I blame one man for the cowardly Democrats: Dr. Howard Dean.

Now, please hear me out...

Now, don't get me wrong, I absolutely adore Dr. Dean, but we are experiencing the consequences of his 50-State Strategy. Rather than pursue top quality progressive Democrats in swing states, the 50-State Strategy suggests that a Democrat is a Democrat and is better than any Republican. Of course, I agree with that, but we have to live with the consequences of that strategy. So, for instance, we were never going to get a Public Option because these Democrats in swing and conservative states were never going to vote for a Public Option, no matter how much we cried. So we blamed Obama instead when in reality, Obama has little to do with what Congress ultimately decides. He can try and persuade Democrats to go his way, but there's only so much he can do. So now, we have faux, cowardly, or Corporate-bought Democrats like Max Baucus, Bill Nelson and Joe LIEberman. But again, due to the 50-State Strategy, we are now reaping what that strategy has sown: the Claire McCaskells and the Blanche Lincolns of the world will have to do until highly qualified and attractive progressive Democrats are courted. I don't believe that there aren't any that exists in RED and middle-ground states.

At any rate, they feel that they can't be associated with Obama or anything having to do with him, which is interesting because the president seems to be doing o.k. in many of these swing states. I just wonder if they can win in those states. Look at John Tester!