Ryan: 'We Will Decide Later' How And When To Tackle Medicare Privatization
Source: Talking Points Memo
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) said that plans to overhaul Medicare remain unresolved in the lead-up to Donald Trumps inauguration. We havent addressed that. Thats an unresolved issue. I havent even spoke with the president-elect about that, Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel in a Monday interview.
The House speaker has for years proposed radical reforms to Medicare that involve replacing the current system with private health insurance supported in part by government subsidies.
A number of Republican House lawmakers, including Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), Trumps pick to lead the Department of Health and Human Services, have called on Congress to move quickly on Medicare privatization now that the GOP has control of the House, Senate and White House. Some GOP senators have expressed reservations, however.
Ryan suggested he has no plan of dropping the issue but that the timing and method for taking on Medicare is not yet decided.
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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-medicare-reform-unresolved-not-addressed-with-trump
Ryan: Obamacare 'Transition' Will Take Time To Make Sure 'No One Is Worse Off'
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) acknowledged Monday that the GOPs long-held goal of repealing and replacing Obamacare would take time and involve some kind of transition" to ensure that Americans are not worse off after President Barack Obamas signature health care program is dismantled.
Clearly there will be a transition and a bridge so that no one is left out in the cold, so that no one is worse off, Ryan told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. The purpose here is to bring relief to people who are suffering from Obamacare so that they can get something better.
The House Speaker recently listed addressing Obamacare as one of his top four priorities for the new Congress, but his comments to the Journal-Sentinel suggest that replacing this complex legislation may not be done quickly.
It will clearly take time. It took them about six years to stand up Obamacare. Its not going to be replaced come next football season, Ryan said.
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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-transition-obamacare-ensure-no-one-worse-off
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)"The House speaker has for years proposed radical reforms to Medicare that involve replacing the current system with private health insurance supported in part by government subsidies." snip
I was very involved with my mother's end of life for 6 yrs. Now I am on Medicare. As I understand it, government agencies like HHS/Medicare negotiate with Pharma and Providers on prices. My guess is that private health insurance companies are in on the negotiations; Medicare aside, I do know the health insurance companies make their own deals with Pharma and Providers. The result is you might see a bill with fantasy numbers on it quite regularly, and the billing has nothing to do with the reality of what was provided ($3 per aspirin, for example).
The main point is, we are already moving in this radical direction. All experts advise buying Medicare Plus insurance b/c Medicare does not cover some things. These "plus" plans are sold by private health insurance companies. My mother's from AARP sending her to United Healthcare cost $171/mo., and she also paid for Medicare (around $50/mo). And with that coverage, she did not get dental benefits and she paid out of pocket about 50% for provider + pharma. So is Medicare such a great deal? NO! It should be strengthened but these repiglicans are too greedy for that.
I do understand that with the Endless Wars and Tax Havens repugs like so well, we're in the red bigly and can't afford to fix infrastructure including our health care system and costs.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)Democrats need to hammer Ryan with things like, "What are you trying to fix since most elderly Americans like their Medicare?" (if only for the cost savings). Point out other areas of government that were privatized, like prisons. It hasn't worked out so well. Remind him what happened when Bush tried to privatize social security, right after it failed (thankfully) the stock market took a dump and most people would have lost their SS money right then had it passed.
We could make a huge savings on prescription drugs for bulk pricing, or paying what the insurance companies pay for the drugs. Funny, the same people that whine about the cost of Medicaid/Medicare are the ones who block bulk pricing for the programs.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)I know. It's so obvious the repugs are only interested in their rich corporate friends and their campaign contributions, er, kickbacks Congressmen get for voting the oligarchs' way.
DK504
(3,847 posts)the uprising if he actually tries this. If he thinks he can do this in the dead of night like they do with all the budget bills, he will be shocked when the grey panthers storm DC.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)the GOP does not the people in Congress who are capable of writing a major legisltive bill to replace OC. Last eight years they have been electing plumbers, farmers, etc;
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)Just like high speed lie telling, the 100 meter bullshit interview, and freestyle demogoguery!
cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)Ryan knows that if the party really does follow through with privatizing it that they are likely to lose majority control of the House in 2 years and that scares him and the other Republicans shitless because there is a real chance the Dems might take it and then begin things like ethics investigations and in light of the GOPs behavior for the past 30+ years the odds are alot of them would then be heading to jail.
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)all the cover they need and bring on people who will call it all a partisan witch hunt, all the way whining and pandering to its base.
But I could be wrong on that. And I would hope I am.
cstanleytech
(26,334 posts)would be to appoint an independent investigation team that could look into ethics violations like that for everyone.
Sure it will probably catch some Democrats if that was to happen but I am willing to wager that there would be a hell of alot more Republicans caught in that net than Dems.
joewicker_TX
(73 posts)No one has tripped over themselves walking this back as quickly as they have. There are a few intelligent people left that KNOW the backlash would be devistating....
wordpix
(18,652 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Their supporters won't forget and we won't let them..
wordpix
(18,652 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)He's an asshole. Oh and he's not going to have us be worse off? I doubt that.
jpak
(41,760 posts)fucking cowards
They know the Shit Storm they would bring.
yup
BeyondGeography
(39,386 posts)There are still a few R's in the Senate who haven't lost their minds.
calguy
(5,338 posts)They're just trying figure out the "when".
hibbing
(10,110 posts)And just drop the whole program, something they all have had collective hard on about since the program started.
Peace
Skittles
(153,226 posts)*EGREGIOUS VISUAL*
hibbing
(10,110 posts)Skittles
(153,226 posts)fuck him
33taw
(2,448 posts)And put it out there for the next four years in the same manner they put that bogus e-mail crap out there.
TwilightZone
(25,499 posts)He knows the GOP would get its ass kicked if they screw with Medicare.
Kind of makes me wish they'd try...and fail. Not fail Medicare but fail to do anything about it, while hurting their brand.
Mr.Bill
(24,334 posts)is I do not believe a single fucking word he says. And anyone who does is a fool.
Blue Idaho
(5,060 posts)Try to fuck up the ACA, Medicare, and throw in Social Security while you are at it. Then you can watch your career completely disappear in less than a month. Americans like their socialist programs - hell, most Americans are depending on them to stay alive after the age of 65.
Take them away from Joe and Jane America and your life isn't worth two cents.
Generator
(7,770 posts)Because I am angry enough-not old enough yet for it or ss but I called ALL my senators and congresswoman and I called AARP and I wrote and I tweeted. And my other friends have been made aware. Fuck this shit. WE have nothing to do but fight. WE have nothing to lose. Which is why I say what I really think on DU now and don't hold back anything. Why? There is no point anymore. We are in some fucked up alternative reality and I am going to yell at it till it backs down or kills me. Oh and all the senators and dem office I spoke to where aware and said they would fight on this. THEY KNOW it's a no go zone.
turbinetree
(24,726 posts)seniors citizens and everyone that does not have "his" government health care being paid by the same taxpayers.
This right wing fascist says that he is going to do something about Standing Rock.
My answer is just maybe some human beings should go outside his Janesville wisCONsin home and start protesting, so that he understands that we will not back down at Standing Rock
jack69
(163 posts)What is it with politicians from Wisconsin, going back to early 50's?
turbinetree
(24,726 posts)but this "guy" is dangerous, he has no empathy its all about greed and how he can be bought off
duffyduff
(3,251 posts)Typical libertarian nutjob.
The fact is they mess with the Third Rail, their party is history for good.
Is this an admission that it is not the evil plague that they have tried to block all these wasted years. I clearly remember Obama asking everybody if they had any ideas for the program. Because a black man did it, it had to be flawed, i guess.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,290 posts)nt