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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:53 AM Jul 2012

ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING SOCIALISM’ |

Source: Think Progress

ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING SOCIALISM’ | During an appearance on MSNBC Wednesday morning, Carlos Gutierrez, a Romney senior adviser and Honorary Co-Chair of his National Hispanic Steering Committee, said that questioning the GOP presidential candidate’s reluctance to turn over his tax returns and come clean about his investments in foreign countries amounts to “socialism.” Responding to a segment during which Democratic strategist Karen Finney raised concerns about some of Romney’s offshore accounts, Gutierrez said, “if you are attacking capitalism, then I suppose that we are supporting socialism.”

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/07/11/514551/romney-campaign-co-chair-people-who-are-questioning-mitts-tax-returns-are-supporting-socialism/



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ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING SOCIALISM’ | (Original Post) kpete Jul 2012 OP
You can attack kleptocracy without attacking capitalism. tanyev Jul 2012 #1
Rmoney = kleptocracy = unbridled capitalism; none of which is Democratic. Vincardog Jul 2012 #43
Yeah, Carlos, and if a doctor was attacking your diet, to protect your heart, he'd be supporting patrice Jul 2012 #2
Wanting to know HOW he made his money AlbertCat Jul 2012 #3
They apply the label "socialism" to anything and everything they disagree with. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #33
re:ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING SOCIALISM allan01 Jul 2012 #4
It is a simple matter Dalai_1 Jul 2012 #5
they say that like it's a bad thing? limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #6
ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING SOCIALISM’ riderinthestorm Jul 2012 #7
Exactly siligut Jul 2012 #14
+1000 typical R's making stuff up & taunting with names like school kid brats wordpix Jul 2012 #36
Hey, where's the signup sheet? madashelltoo Jul 2012 #8
It's all a big Chavez-Castro kryptonite plot to destroy SuperMitt! Fuddnik Jul 2012 #9
It'll be interesting to see if other surrogates say the same thing aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #10
It's only socialism when people supporting THAT BLACK MAN do it. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #32
You keep using that word... Thav Jul 2012 #11
C'mon! A republican mis-using the word "Socialism"? VWolf Jul 2012 #19
Yet another sign of the deteriorating mind of the conservative. n/t SpankMe Jul 2012 #12
"the unacceptable face of capitalism" - said by Conservative PM Edward Heath muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #13
Boy, they'll throw in catch phrases anywhere, even when inappropriate. Kablooie Jul 2012 #15
Gee, I thought it was about calling out a tax cheat. Denninmi Jul 2012 #16
The IRS is socialism. So are all taxes. Therefore so is the Constitution. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #31
And he's black too. Did we mention he's black? Scuba Jul 2012 #17
Some of his best friends are black. nt SusanaMontana41 Jul 2012 #21
Breaking: Mitt's co-chair calls Mitt's dad a socialist! JHB Jul 2012 #18
Gutierrez is the poster child for cognitive dissonance. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2012 #20
Socialism... agtcovert Jul 2012 #22
It used to be 'Communism' in the 50-60s now it's 'Socialism' Amonester Jul 2012 #35
exactly - socialized health care, child care, college, good public transportation wordpix Jul 2012 #37
Nah... It's so much better to be free to evade taxes using 'legally' lobbied loopholes! Amonester Jul 2012 #40
i'm at work and can't watch right now. barbtries Jul 2012 #23
Huh? liberal N proud Jul 2012 #24
Ok Sentath Jul 2012 #25
just go with the "we are supporting socialism" money quote. investing overseas, supporting socialism unblock Jul 2012 #26
And the Non Sequitor Award in the Fish Out of Water category goes to ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2012 #27
Good. loyalkydem Jul 2012 #28
He misspoke. He meant to say we were supporting TERRORISM. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #29
Another huge idiot heard from Angry Dragon Jul 2012 #30
"We are supporting socialism" -use that in O ad, with "Romney supporter" screenshot of Gutierrez wordpix Jul 2012 #34
Yes, I am, now answer the fucking question n/t Scootaloo Jul 2012 #38
Sooooo, under that logic leftynyc Jul 2012 #39
NO. in the parlance of republicans of days gone by-FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE! pansypoo53219 Jul 2012 #41
Anybody who would vote for Romney deserves to live in the country he will bring us. yardwork Jul 2012 #42

patrice

(47,992 posts)
2. Yeah, Carlos, and if a doctor was attacking your diet, to protect your heart, he'd be supporting
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jul 2012

starving you to death.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
3. Wanting to know HOW he made his money
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:05 AM
Jul 2012

... is socialism?

Apparently the definition of "socialism" is vast and varied.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
4. re:ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING SOCIALISM
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:06 AM
Jul 2012
those are also public informaiton. socilisim , meh. pok. you wat obamas birth certificate so bad , prove it .

Dalai_1

(1,301 posts)
5. It is a simple matter
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jul 2012

of questioning where he chose to invest his money and the benefits he got as
a result of the decision he made.If it was not in the USA we are entitled to
know.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
7. ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING SOCIALISM’
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:15 AM
Jul 2012

No wait, that's not right... how about

ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING PEDOPHIILIA’

No, no that sounds bad too... how about

ROMNEY CAMPAIGN CO-CHAIR: PEOPLE WHO ARE QUESTIONING MITT’S TAX RETURNS ARE ‘SUPPORTING COMMUNISM"



Can't you just hear them trying to brainstorm their talking point on this.. trying to come up with something, anything that insinuates its somehow "unpatriotic" to question Mitt's refusal to release his tax returns.

The statement by Mr. Gutierrez doesn't even make sense!

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
10. It'll be interesting to see if other surrogates say the same thing
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jul 2012

If this is the agreed-on approach it indicates that they are pretty desperate to come up with a defense. John McCain who wanted Romney's tax returns to vet him as a possible VP in 2008 must be a hardened Marxist. Or is it okay for McCain to vet Romney but not okay for the American electorate to do the same?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
13. "the unacceptable face of capitalism" - said by Conservative PM Edward Heath
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jul 2012

about sanctions breaking in Rhodesia: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/139596.stm

Of course you can criticise capitalism, especially certain ways of doing it (eg using tax havens to dodge tax) without being a socialist; typically people who are general supporters of capitalism do when taking the maximum possible profit becomes the only goal.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
15. Boy, they'll throw in catch phrases anywhere, even when inappropriate.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:46 AM
Jul 2012

Socialism ... ooooh ... scary.

Denninmi

(6,581 posts)
16. Gee, I thought it was about calling out a tax cheat.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 11:51 AM
Jul 2012

If that is his definition of socialism then so be it. I remember various IRS programs to crack down on tax fraud coming down under R as well as D administrations and Congresses.

JHB

(37,159 posts)
18. Breaking: Mitt's co-chair calls Mitt's dad a socialist!
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:17 PM
Jul 2012

Also calls the US a socialist nation for most of the Cold War. Evidently the Russians were the Union of Soviet Socialist-er Democrats.


There used to be a description for people who said these sorts of things: Ranting Loons.

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
20. Gutierrez is the poster child for cognitive dissonance.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jul 2012

Me thinks he's seen the writing on the wall about the Hispanic vote in November.

Damn those GOP toadies are desperate!

agtcovert

(238 posts)
22. Socialism...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jul 2012

I've never been able to tell if I should classify right wing use of this word as one of their "code" words or just a swear word they use. I wish they'd pull out a dictionary.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
35. It used to be 'Communism' in the 50-60s now it's 'Socialism'
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jul 2012

Like if Norway's, Sweden's, Finland's, and even France's brand of 'Socialism' is a bad thing!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
37. exactly - socialized health care, child care, college, good public transportation
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jul 2012

:WTF: What's the matter with all that?

And BTW, it's not "free" ---people pay high taxes to get these things, but at least they get some real benefits for their taxes. Not like here, where if you can't afford health care, tough luck and you're living on the street if your illness bankrupts you.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
40. Nah... It's so much better to be free to evade taxes using 'legally' lobbied loopholes!
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jul 2012


Denmark! I forgot Denmark!

And Public Dental Care!

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
23. i'm at work and can't watch right now.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jul 2012

but i'm going to assume that it sounded as ridiculous as it reads?

unblock

(52,206 posts)
26. just go with the "we are supporting socialism" money quote. investing overseas, supporting socialism
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 12:45 PM
Jul 2012

that's mitt for ya!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
27. And the Non Sequitor Award in the Fish Out of Water category goes to ...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:02 PM
Jul 2012
Gutierrez said, “if you are attacking capitalism, then I suppose that we are supporting socialism.”


I suppose ... If you are seating, then I suppose that we are also driving.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
34. "We are supporting socialism" -use that in O ad, with "Romney supporter" screenshot of Gutierrez
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:29 PM
Jul 2012

below. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I'm referring to the R's using a portion of a speech by O where he quoted a R absurdity, and the ad was edited to make it appear the absurdity was O's own.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
39. Sooooo, under that logic
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jul 2012

Newt, Sarah, Hermann and all the other mental midgets are socialists. During the primaries they all called for him to release multiple years of tax returns. You know, that would make a great campaign ad - just go to the primary debates.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
42. Anybody who would vote for Romney deserves to live in the country he will bring us.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 03:12 PM
Jul 2012

Unfortunately, they'll drag all the rest of us down too. I honestly sometimes wish that half the country would secede.

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