Man shot by Minnesota officer identified as biology teacher Updated 4:04pm, Monday, January 2, 2017
Source: Associated Press
Updated 4:04 pm, Monday, January 2, 2017
MANKATO, Minn. (AP) A man who was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota during a struggle at a hotel was identified Monday as a biology teacher from the Minneapolis area.
Chase Tuseth, 33, was shot early Saturday after an officer was called to a disturbance at a motel in Mankato, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension confirmed Monday.
Tuseth was a 2008 graduate of Minnesota State University and taught at Tokata Learning Center, an alternative high school in the Shakopee School District. He previously taught for three years at Integrated Arts Academy in Chaska.
"He was an innovative teacher," Tokata Principal Eric Serbus told the Minneapolis Star Tribune. "He was always looking for the next and best way to connect with students."
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Uncle-Man-fatally-shot-by-Mankato-police-was-10830996.php
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Chase Tuseth
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)why miscreants, particularly unarmed ones, can't be subdued without
shooting them, often fatally.
Billy club, stun gun, wrestling tactics, handcuffs ....
MBS
(9,688 posts)yagotme
(2,919 posts)according to the article, came out of it while being cuffed, and began assaulting the officer.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Throw a net over him and wait for backup
Johnathan146
(141 posts)If the barbs miss, dont stick (heavy jacket) or are ripped out, your taser is a paperweight. It can be reloaded in 20 seconds, but not when somebody is attacking you. Plus, I would assume most police dont have a backup cartridge on them.
Perhaps the question to ask is why did a grown man think it is ok to assult a police officer?
niyad
(113,303 posts)force?
Johnathan146
(141 posts)The element of surprise is a very powerful force. To the officer it was a routine day, until all the sudden it wasn't.
The officer was also has 30 years experience, which means he is about 55, possibly even older. Somebody who is 33 is often stronger than somebody who is in his 50's.
Is it really a tough concept to get that attacking a police officer is a bad idea. (and if there is a struggle for the firearm, the officers life is at risk, even with an unarmed person)
niyad
(113,303 posts)something other than deadly force as an answer for dealing with UNARMED persons. (I keep remembering joe campos torres, randy white, and a whole lot of others long before this current wave of killings by cop.)
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)this isnt an episode of Walker Texas Ranger where the cop can take the suspect down like a ninja master.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)Training is really focused on not getting into the hand-to-hand struggle with an enabled opponent.
angrychair
(8,699 posts)That dozens of police forces manage without shooting their suspected criminals dead??
A single large city police force, like Dallas, has shot and killed more suspected criminals than all of the police forces in Germany, combined, in a decade.
Why?
Either our police are incompetent or poorly trained or both.
yagotme
(2,919 posts)may have been involved, perp was believed to be drunk, could have been size/age difference, etc. I'm sure cops don't get continual training in hand to hand combat, which is needed if it is to be actually effective. A few hours every once in awhile won't do it, and will usually be done on their own time. If cops were trained "on the clock" for this, no one would be out on beat. Tactics involve going one step up from what your assailant is doing. Perp was tased, temporarily down, but began resisting while being cuffed. I'm sure the cop would have loved to say, "Alright, back off a minute and let me reload my taser so I don't have to shoot you with my gun". If no backup was immediately available, and the cop was getting his hat handed to him, the logical next step is deadly force. Sorry, but that's how the training goes. Would you be OK if the perp knocked the cop out, and stole his gun, then deciding to go on a shooting rampage? Others here would blame the lack of gun control laws then, and ask why the cop didn't shoot the guy to keep him from getting his gun. Sheesh.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)This cop can too.
Johnathan146
(141 posts)So in your opinion, every 50 year old police officer should be able to take every 30 year to the ground?
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Much as it sounds you've got it all figured out, as well.
christx30
(6,241 posts)He's an armed robber, out on parole. Cop finds pot in his van and is going to arrest him. He beats her and nearly kills her. She ended up with 4 titanium plates in her face, a broken nose, and stitches inside her mouth and left eye. But, yeah. He was unarmed. He's serving a 60 year sentence. With any luck, this violent felon is going to die in prison (old age, or, whatever. I'm not picky), and not be inflicted upon society again.
Sometimes training isn't enough. No cop should have to get a beating like that, just to protect the life of an unarmed suspect.
This is why resisting arrest is a crime. Because it puts everyone's lives at risk.
niyad
(113,303 posts)without killing them
yagotme
(2,919 posts)Some people get uncontrollable when that happens.
niyad
(113,303 posts)but he still wasn't killed. we knew how to deal with him.
yagotme
(2,919 posts)Were you with others, or do you mean the force as a whole? It only takes one guy that won't stop at anything, and one-on-one isn't the best way to go.
Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)no excuse to shoot someone simply because he/she is "uncontrollable"
cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)If as its claimed that he actually was trying to get the weapon and hitting the officer even after being tasered then the officer will probably be found to be in the right at that point to escalate to using their firearm.
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)will end the way we all expect like in the case of the Reginald Denny trial.
yagotme
(2,919 posts)but assaulting the cop could end up being so. If he was being really aggressive, how does the cop know how far he is going to go? The police are allowed to escalate force, so every time the perp does one thing, the police go one step further. It would be much easier, if the cop says "cuff up", and the perp complies. Doesn't always happen that way.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)yagotme
(2,919 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)"Court documents show that investigators suspect a biology teacher from the Twin Cities area was high on multiple drugs when he was fatally shot by a Mankato police officer who responded to a disturbance at a hotel."
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/warrants-teacher-shot-mankato-officer-high-drugs-44782242
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)what kind of weapons people have? They could have a pistol in their sock for all the police know. I know I wouldn't want to be in any of those situations because you can be killed a thousand different ways.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)Don't become a cop!
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)angstlessk
(11,862 posts)not one 6 week training, then no other requirement, heck...accountants must take regular courses, and they don't pack guns!
Physical, a bit of psychology, and sensitivity training should be required annually!
WhoWoodaKnew
(847 posts)They have families and I won't discount that or the risk to their lives.
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)to know in an instant how dangerous one individual might be (regardless of color)...seems white anti-government folks have too much opportunity to kill a cop!
X_Digger
(18,585 posts)truthisfreedom
(23,147 posts)cstanleytech
(26,291 posts)Vinca
(50,271 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)Johnathan146
(141 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)relatively there are many, many more white people and many many more white thugs, criminals and miscreants. These people also are given a chance to disarm much more than PoC with no weapons that are shot straight away or while trying to run away(intheback), no little 11 year old white kids are murdered by 'heroes in blue' while playing with their toy guns, no white person has been shot down in cold blood in a Walmart while examining a toy gun for a relative, no little white girls are thrown to the ground at community swimming pools by the 'heroes in blue' because black people don't want them there, even though they might be residents entitled to swim there, no tea and skiittles gets a young white boy killed by a wanna be neighborhood watch 'hero', no white kid is shot and killed for jaywalking while unarmed while walking in the middle of the street, haven't read any stories of unarmed white people getting choked to death by one of the 'heroes in blue'...hey nice try, but distraction and diversion from the reason(strictly skin color) so many UNARMED PoC are killed by the 'heroes in blue' is ALWAYS missing in responses such as this and are typical and unsurprising. Have a good upcoming 4 years.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)I think you should actually look at them. Cause you clearly have not.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)at the lies, hypocrisy and read, listened and just end up shaking my head at the known obfuscation and BS people have to believe to grab hold of lies about the racism, ignorance and stupidity of certain segments and sub-cultures of ameriKKKan society and how it impacts PoC in the streets of ameriKKKa. Believe what you must. I do have the truth on my side and you will never, never have such.
And with the last 8 years of AA's men, women and CHILDREN being assaulted and killed in the numbers that are relevant to the truth of my words, by the likes of a zimmerman pig to the killing of an 11 year old in cleveland to the suspicious hanging of a AA woman professional in a texas jail....with the ascension of THE racist-in-chief friday to POTUS, this country will just show, to the world, how ignorant and lowlife and RACIST ameriKKKan people can be.
Nothing you believe will change the truth I have lived and seen. bye...
Jake Stern
(3,145 posts)PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)perhaps that very action increased the violence of the incident.
Is a stun gun the same as a taser? I assume so.
Cops would often serve best by a focus containment and isolation from others of out-of-control individuals over a direct confrontation to force the individual into custody.
Only the most desperate suspect wants a violent confrontation with a cop.
There are too many deaths and injuries by cop in the USA.