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Judi Lynn

(160,530 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:52 PM Jan 2017

Man shot by Minnesota officer identified as biology teacher Updated 4:04pm, Monday, January 2, 2017

Source: Associated Press

Updated 4:04 pm, Monday, January 2, 2017


MANKATO, Minn. (AP) — A man who was fatally shot by a police officer in Minnesota during a struggle at a hotel was identified Monday as a biology teacher from the Minneapolis area.

Chase Tuseth, 33, was shot early Saturday after an officer was called to a disturbance at a motel in Mankato, the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension confirmed Monday.

Tuseth was a 2008 graduate of Minnesota State University and taught at Tokata Learning Center, an alternative high school in the Shakopee School District. He previously taught for three years at Integrated Arts Academy in Chaska.

"He was an innovative teacher," Tokata Principal Eric Serbus told the Minneapolis Star Tribune. "He was always looking for the next and best way to connect with students."

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Uncle-Man-fatally-shot-by-Mankato-police-was-10830996.php



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Man shot by Minnesota officer identified as biology teacher Updated 4:04pm, Monday, January 2, 2017 (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2017 OP
I don't understand bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #1
Me, either. MBS Jan 2017 #2
Umm, he was tased, yagotme Jan 2017 #3
Tase him again, Sam bucolic_frolic Jan 2017 #4
Tasers are often one time use Johnathan146 Jan 2017 #5
why isn't a trained police officer capable of handling an unarmed person WITHOUT the use of deadly niyad Jan 2017 #7
I don't know Johnathan146 Jan 2017 #8
and the officer is supposed to be trained to handle such situations, 30 or 50. there has to be niyad Jan 2017 #9
Ya but this is real life and in real life most officers have limited training and cstanleytech Jan 2017 #22
Training doesn't help much when it comes to brute force. Yo_Mama Jan 2017 #29
Is it really that tough a concept angrychair Jan 2017 #13
Many different factors yagotme Jan 2017 #10
I'm short (5'7") and seriously out of shape and have wrestled a belligerent drunk to the ground Jake Stern Jan 2017 #12
Sounds like you got it all figured out Johnathan146 Jan 2017 #14
Much as it sounds you've got it all figured out, as well. LanternWaste Jan 2017 #21
This is what an unarmed person can do. christx30 Jan 2017 #27
unless the miscreant is on pcp or some such, one would thnk that trained officers could restrain the niyad Jan 2017 #6
Presumed to be drunk. yagotme Jan 2017 #11
I have witnessed, and dealt with, many drunks in my day. and only one who could not be controlled. niyad Jan 2017 #16
You say "we". yagotme Jan 2017 #37
Is being drunk a capital offense? Beaverhausen Jan 2017 #18
Question is was he merely being uncontrollable? cstanleytech Jan 2017 #23
So you assume it's true in the absence of any video or other evidence? Jake Stern Jan 2017 #35
No, video can help to clarify a case though but even having video doesnt mean a case cstanleytech Jan 2017 #36
No, it's not a capital offense, yagotme Jan 2017 #40
Suspected to be high on LSD and ecstasy. LisaL Jan 2017 #39
Yeah, I guess he was really flying high, if that is correct. n/t yagotme Jan 2017 #41
It is suspected that the teacher was high on multiple drugs. LisaL Jan 2017 #38
I hate guns too, but how do the cops (in many of these situations) know WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2017 #15
My suggestion to anyone who says "I wouldn't want to be in any of those situations" angstlessk Jan 2017 #17
I'm not a cop. I can, however, think about other people's jobs and their challenges. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2017 #30
I know...but...police should be well trained...consistantly angstlessk Jan 2017 #31
I agree. But they have a job where they may get killed. WhoWoodaKnew Jan 2017 #32
Exactly why they should have extra training... angstlessk Jan 2017 #33
What training might that be, Mind Reading 101? X_Digger Jan 2017 #43
This story has to unravel in some way. It can't just be this simple. truthisfreedom Jan 2017 #19
I dont see that happening not unless there are hotel security tapes that contradict the officer. cstanleytech Jan 2017 #24
Well, that's a fluke . . . he's white. Vinca Jan 2017 #20
relatively rare fluke heaven05 Jan 2017 #25
So rare that most people killed by cops are white. Johnathan146 Jan 2017 #26
numbers count here, heaven05 Jan 2017 #28
Well if numbers count Egnever Jan 2017 #42
Oh, I have looked heaven05 Jan 2017 #45
Does that make it okey dokey? nt Jake Stern Jan 2017 #34
I question whether the killed man should have been shot with the stun gun; PufPuf23 Jan 2017 #44

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
1. I don't understand
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 06:58 PM
Jan 2017

why miscreants, particularly unarmed ones, can't be subdued without
shooting them, often fatally.

Billy club, stun gun, wrestling tactics, handcuffs ....

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
3. Umm, he was tased,
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:07 PM
Jan 2017

according to the article, came out of it while being cuffed, and began assaulting the officer.

 

Johnathan146

(141 posts)
5. Tasers are often one time use
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:28 PM
Jan 2017

If the barbs miss, dont stick (heavy jacket) or are ripped out, your taser is a paperweight. It can be reloaded in 20 seconds, but not when somebody is attacking you. Plus, I would assume most police dont have a backup cartridge on them.

Perhaps the question to ask is why did a grown man think it is ok to assult a police officer?

niyad

(113,303 posts)
7. why isn't a trained police officer capable of handling an unarmed person WITHOUT the use of deadly
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:39 PM
Jan 2017

force?

 

Johnathan146

(141 posts)
8. I don't know
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:46 PM
Jan 2017

The element of surprise is a very powerful force. To the officer it was a routine day, until all the sudden it wasn't.

The officer was also has 30 years experience, which means he is about 55, possibly even older. Somebody who is 33 is often stronger than somebody who is in his 50's.

Is it really a tough concept to get that attacking a police officer is a bad idea. (and if there is a struggle for the firearm, the officers life is at risk, even with an unarmed person)

niyad

(113,303 posts)
9. and the officer is supposed to be trained to handle such situations, 30 or 50. there has to be
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:49 PM
Jan 2017

something other than deadly force as an answer for dealing with UNARMED persons. (I keep remembering joe campos torres, randy white, and a whole lot of others long before this current wave of killings by cop.)

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
22. Ya but this is real life and in real life most officers have limited training and
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:07 AM
Jan 2017

this isnt an episode of Walker Texas Ranger where the cop can take the suspect down like a ninja master.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
29. Training doesn't help much when it comes to brute force.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 03:26 PM
Jan 2017

Training is really focused on not getting into the hand-to-hand struggle with an enabled opponent.

angrychair

(8,699 posts)
13. Is it really that tough a concept
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:29 PM
Jan 2017

That dozens of police forces manage without shooting their suspected criminals dead??

A single large city police force, like Dallas, has shot and killed more suspected criminals than all of the police forces in Germany, combined, in a decade.

Why?

Either our police are incompetent or poorly trained or both.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
10. Many different factors
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jan 2017

may have been involved, perp was believed to be drunk, could have been size/age difference, etc. I'm sure cops don't get continual training in hand to hand combat, which is needed if it is to be actually effective. A few hours every once in awhile won't do it, and will usually be done on their own time. If cops were trained "on the clock" for this, no one would be out on beat. Tactics involve going one step up from what your assailant is doing. Perp was tased, temporarily down, but began resisting while being cuffed. I'm sure the cop would have loved to say, "Alright, back off a minute and let me reload my taser so I don't have to shoot you with my gun". If no backup was immediately available, and the cop was getting his hat handed to him, the logical next step is deadly force. Sorry, but that's how the training goes. Would you be OK if the perp knocked the cop out, and stole his gun, then deciding to go on a shooting rampage? Others here would blame the lack of gun control laws then, and ask why the cop didn't shoot the guy to keep him from getting his gun. Sheesh.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
12. I'm short (5'7") and seriously out of shape and have wrestled a belligerent drunk to the ground
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:20 PM
Jan 2017

This cop can too.

 

Johnathan146

(141 posts)
14. Sounds like you got it all figured out
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 09:40 PM
Jan 2017

So in your opinion, every 50 year old police officer should be able to take every 30 year to the ground?

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Much as it sounds you've got it all figured out, as well.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:03 AM
Jan 2017

Much as it sounds you've got it all figured out, as well.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
27. This is what an unarmed person can do.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jan 2017


He's an armed robber, out on parole. Cop finds pot in his van and is going to arrest him. He beats her and nearly kills her. She ended up with 4 titanium plates in her face, a broken nose, and stitches inside her mouth and left eye. But, yeah. He was unarmed. He's serving a 60 year sentence. With any luck, this violent felon is going to die in prison (old age, or, whatever. I'm not picky), and not be inflicted upon society again.
Sometimes training isn't enough. No cop should have to get a beating like that, just to protect the life of an unarmed suspect.

This is why resisting arrest is a crime. Because it puts everyone's lives at risk.

niyad

(113,303 posts)
6. unless the miscreant is on pcp or some such, one would thnk that trained officers could restrain the
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 07:37 PM
Jan 2017

without killing them

niyad

(113,303 posts)
16. I have witnessed, and dealt with, many drunks in my day. and only one who could not be controlled.
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:29 PM
Jan 2017

but he still wasn't killed. we knew how to deal with him.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
37. You say "we".
Wed Jan 4, 2017, 04:07 PM
Jan 2017

Were you with others, or do you mean the force as a whole? It only takes one guy that won't stop at anything, and one-on-one isn't the best way to go.

Beaverhausen

(24,470 posts)
18. Is being drunk a capital offense?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 01:24 AM
Jan 2017

no excuse to shoot someone simply because he/she is "uncontrollable"


cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
23. Question is was he merely being uncontrollable?
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 09:15 AM
Jan 2017

If as its claimed that he actually was trying to get the weapon and hitting the officer even after being tasered then the officer will probably be found to be in the right at that point to escalate to using their firearm.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
36. No, video can help to clarify a case though but even having video doesnt mean a case
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 07:36 PM
Jan 2017

will end the way we all expect like in the case of the Reginald Denny trial.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
40. No, it's not a capital offense,
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 06:18 PM
Jan 2017

but assaulting the cop could end up being so. If he was being really aggressive, how does the cop know how far he is going to go? The police are allowed to escalate force, so every time the perp does one thing, the police go one step further. It would be much easier, if the cop says "cuff up", and the perp complies. Doesn't always happen that way.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
38. It is suspected that the teacher was high on multiple drugs.
Mon Jan 16, 2017, 12:50 AM
Jan 2017

"Court documents show that investigators suspect a biology teacher from the Twin Cities area was high on multiple drugs when he was fatally shot by a Mankato police officer who responded to a disturbance at a hotel."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/warrants-teacher-shot-mankato-officer-high-drugs-44782242

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
15. I hate guns too, but how do the cops (in many of these situations) know
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jan 2017

what kind of weapons people have? They could have a pistol in their sock for all the police know. I know I wouldn't want to be in any of those situations because you can be killed a thousand different ways.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
17. My suggestion to anyone who says "I wouldn't want to be in any of those situations"
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 12:33 AM
Jan 2017

Don't become a cop!

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
31. I know...but...police should be well trained...consistantly
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:10 PM
Jan 2017

not one 6 week training, then no other requirement, heck...accountants must take regular courses, and they don't pack guns!

Physical, a bit of psychology, and sensitivity training should be required annually!

WhoWoodaKnew

(847 posts)
32. I agree. But they have a job where they may get killed.
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:25 PM
Jan 2017

They have families and I won't discount that or the risk to their lives.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
33. Exactly why they should have extra training...
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 05:31 PM
Jan 2017

to know in an instant how dangerous one individual might be (regardless of color)...seems white anti-government folks have too much opportunity to kill a cop!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
28. numbers count here,
Tue Jan 3, 2017, 02:34 PM
Jan 2017

relatively there are many, many more white people and many many more white thugs, criminals and miscreants. These people also are given a chance to disarm much more than PoC with no weapons that are shot straight away or while trying to run away(intheback), no little 11 year old white kids are murdered by 'heroes in blue' while playing with their toy guns, no white person has been shot down in cold blood in a Walmart while examining a toy gun for a relative, no little white girls are thrown to the ground at community swimming pools by the 'heroes in blue' because black people don't want them there, even though they might be residents entitled to swim there, no tea and skiittles gets a young white boy killed by a wanna be neighborhood watch 'hero', no white kid is shot and killed for jaywalking while unarmed while walking in the middle of the street, haven't read any stories of unarmed white people getting choked to death by one of the 'heroes in blue'...hey nice try, but distraction and diversion from the reason(strictly skin color) so many UNARMED PoC are killed by the 'heroes in blue' is ALWAYS missing in responses such as this and are typical and unsurprising. Have a good upcoming 4 years.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
45. Oh, I have looked
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jan 2017

at the lies, hypocrisy and read, listened and just end up shaking my head at the known obfuscation and BS people have to believe to grab hold of lies about the racism, ignorance and stupidity of certain segments and sub-cultures of ameriKKKan society and how it impacts PoC in the streets of ameriKKKa. Believe what you must. I do have the truth on my side and you will never, never have such.

And with the last 8 years of AA's men, women and CHILDREN being assaulted and killed in the numbers that are relevant to the truth of my words, by the likes of a zimmerman pig to the killing of an 11 year old in cleveland to the suspicious hanging of a AA woman professional in a texas jail....with the ascension of THE racist-in-chief friday to POTUS, this country will just show, to the world, how ignorant and lowlife and RACIST ameriKKKan people can be.

Nothing you believe will change the truth I have lived and seen. bye...

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
44. I question whether the killed man should have been shot with the stun gun;
Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:23 AM
Jan 2017

perhaps that very action increased the violence of the incident.

Is a stun gun the same as a taser? I assume so.

Cops would often serve best by a focus containment and isolation from others of out-of-control individuals over a direct confrontation to force the individual into custody.

Only the most desperate suspect wants a violent confrontation with a cop.

There are too many deaths and injuries by cop in the USA.

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