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Jose Garcia

(2,598 posts)
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:03 PM Jan 2017

IRS: Fewer paid ObamaCare penalty in 2015

Source: The Hill

Fewer people paid a penalty for not having health insurance in 2015 than the year before, according to new data from the IRS.

About 6.5 million Americans paid an average penalty of $470 when they filed their income taxes in 2015, IRS Commissioner John Koskinen said in a letter to members of Congress.

That's 20 percent fewer than in 2014, when 8 million taxpayers paid the penalty.

The IRS in total collected $3 billion in penalties from those who didn't have coverage in 2015.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/313750-irs-fewer-paid-obamacare-penalty-in-2015

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IRS: Fewer paid ObamaCare penalty in 2015 (Original Post) Jose Garcia Jan 2017 OP
Gee, imagine a massive effort like ACA taking some time to take hold flamingdem Jan 2017 #1
People are learning there is no check. former9thward Jan 2017 #3
Then there really is no down side flamingdem Jan 2017 #4
Oh there is a downside if you check yes for being covered and then cstanleytech Jan 2017 #5
Nope. former9thward Jan 2017 #9
Thats what I am trying to say that if you lied and they audit you and can prove you lied cstanleytech Jan 2017 #10
It blows my mind that even one person paid this penalty :-O harun Jan 2017 #6
Really? milestogo Jan 2017 #7
I don't have to imagine it, I have lived it harun Jan 2017 #8
Interesting to see 2016's number.... Historic NY Jan 2017 #2
Yay, I get to pay a penalty for something I can't afford NobodyHere Jan 2017 #11

former9thward

(32,005 posts)
3. People are learning there is no check.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jan 2017

Your tax form simply asks if you are covered. It does not ask for a name of an insurance company or a policy number. No one at the IRS checks any of this.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
5. Oh there is a downside if you check yes for being covered and then
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 01:30 PM
Jan 2017

a year or two later they find out you lied to them.

former9thward

(32,005 posts)
9. Nope.
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 04:34 PM
Jan 2017

A) no one is going to check a year or two later.

B) you have to have intentionally and materially lied to the IRS. A person can reasonably think they were covered for any number of reasons however wrong.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
10. Thats what I am trying to say that if you lied and they audit you and can prove you lied
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 04:55 PM
Jan 2017

intentionally that you will probably have to pay a fine.
Granted the odds are low that an audit will uncover such a thing but it could happen.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
7. Really?
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jan 2017

Can you not imagine what it's like to lose your job and have to live on unemployment compensation?

It's a kick in the face when you are already down.

harun

(11,348 posts)
8. I don't have to imagine it, I have lived it
Wed Jan 11, 2017, 03:12 PM
Jan 2017

What I am saying is they had all sorts of plans to help people pay the basic rates of insurance instead of going without. Also 20 million new people went on ACA plans. With that considered I would think most would have been on some level of insurance and if they really still didn't want any insurance for them to also file their taxes and check that they didn't have insurance and pay the penalty seems unlikely. Expected very few or none to do that.

I'd have to think most penalty payers are health care self payers who are wealthy. Pure speculation, but the numbers don't add up for me otherwise.

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