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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 01:02 PM Jan 2017

Members are trying to deny Obama entry to an exclusive country club

Source: LGBTQ Nation


By Alex Bollinger · Tuesday, January 17, 2017

The mayor of Somerset, Maryland, quit his exclusive country club yesterday citing Martin Luther King, Jr.’s words. The country club has been embroiled in a debate over whether to allow President Obama to join in his retirement.

Obama has not applied for membership to Woodmont Country Club, which costs $80,000 to apply to and $9,600 in yearly fees, but Politico recently highlighted the club as a possible golf spot for the retired president.

Woodmont was founded in 1913 when Jews were often not accepted in other clubs. The club has remained predominantly Jewish.

The controversy has centered on Obama’s position on Israel/Palestine. The Washington Post obtained an email from lifelong member Faith Goldstein: “He is not welcome at Woodmont. His admittance would create a storm that could destroy our club.” Other members have called Obama’s possible membership “inconceivable” because of his position on Israel/Palestine.

Read more: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/exclusive-country-club-might-not-let-president-obama/

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Members are trying to deny Obama entry to an exclusive country club (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
why is this an issue if he hasn't applied ? JI7 Jan 2017 #1
because journalists are now lazy sitting on their ass sorry examples for their profession snooper2 Jan 2017 #3
Hole in one, snooper2. Paladin Jan 2017 #7
my question, too. Arguing over Israel is plain nuts wordpix Jan 2017 #16
Wouldn't this be an example of fake news? TheDebbieDee Jan 2017 #33
lol tazkcmo Jan 2017 #2
He, he... Dave in VA Jan 2017 #8
From now on tazkcmo Jan 2017 #30
Blind to the irony no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #4
It is odd but I have seen similar things in Atlantic Beach, Long Island HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #12
It gets better, in many towns there are 2 Jewish ckubs AngryAmish Jan 2017 #15
I don't play golf in Westchester HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #17
Al Czervik is of course the immortal Rodney Dangerfield character from Caddyshack HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #20
Fake news strikes again ? Ford_Prefect Jan 2017 #5
It does not seem to be fake news to me. lancelyons Jan 2017 #9
Yes, I see that now in the WP coverage. Ford_Prefect Jan 2017 #11
But, since Obama hasn't applied ... aggiesal Jan 2017 #41
We will not let you in! HassleCat Jan 2017 #6
Exactly! This is NOT news! TheDebbieDee Jan 2017 #34
OH FFS! elleng Jan 2017 #10
Plow up the fairways and greens. Blue Idaho Jan 2017 #13
beautiful and only forest land left on Rockville Pike so that won't be popular wordpix Jan 2017 #14
One of the things I hope to see before I die TlalocW Jan 2017 #18
I thought some Jews were okay with a 2 state solution n/t TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #19
Not all. Some want to group with Republicans & exterminate Pals with thousands of new buildings & Sunlei Jan 2017 #23
Oh, I know it's not all TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #24
Our countries Policy is 2 state solution, always been. It's our Republicans who assist & push anothe Sunlei Jan 2017 #31
about 80% are per one study -- but many very wealthy Jews, don't karynnj Jan 2017 #29
Obama will FOREVER want to be their friend Skittles Jan 2017 #21
doubt Obama would consider wasting 90,000 for a golf club membership. He has friends to golf with Sunlei Jan 2017 #22
That should be his statement The Polack MSgt Jan 2017 #25
My father never joined a club and it was less about cost then preferring to play different courses. KittyWampus Jan 2017 #38
If you play with different people, you are supposed to host once in a while HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #39
If you join an athletic club that organized fishing and golf trips around the world KittyWampus Jan 2017 #42
Headline's wrong: "Dickheads Will Be Dickheads, It's Not Exactly News" TygrBright Jan 2017 #26
I haven't seen any video of Obama banging on the club door trying to get in. Vinca Jan 2017 #27
If He Shows Up At Congressional, They'll Alter The Tee Book. . . ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #28
For fuck sake! Let the man in! Rex Jan 2017 #32
If Trump wants to gain points he should give to Obama free lifetime memberships to All Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #35
Not so good jeanmarc Jan 2017 #36
and beat the hell out of him Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #37
The real reason is more mundane MosheFeingold Jan 2017 #40

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
7. Hole in one, snooper2.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 01:27 PM
Jan 2017

If there's not actual news to trash a Democrat with, they just pull something out of their asses.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
16. my question, too. Arguing over Israel is plain nuts
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:19 PM
Jan 2017

As I said to a friend, this issue has been going on since the Old Testament times when the Palestinians were known as the Philistines. I doubt Woodmont can figure it out

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
2. lol
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 01:12 PM
Jan 2017

I'm sure President Obama is all butt hurt to be deprived of associating with a bunch of privileged, self entitled, wealthy white folks. He had enough of that dealing with the GOPee.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
30. From now on
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 03:03 PM
Jan 2017

When discussing anything Rep(ee)ublican I will include urine references. Especially when it involves The Golden Boy.

no_hypocrisy

(46,092 posts)
4. Blind to the irony
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 01:19 PM
Jan 2017

Of a golf club founded based on antisemitism is discriminating on the basis of a finite number of members with a restricted viewpoint of Israel. Are they going to kick out reform Jews who don't believe in settlements?

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
12. It is odd but I have seen similar things in Atlantic Beach, Long Island
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:09 PM
Jan 2017

The Jewish only beach clubs started up because there was nowhere for a Jew to join. I could not even enter as a guest, I think that there were 4 clubs, then someone started a club right next to them that did not allow Jews. That club even went so far as to eventually ban a long time member that married a Jew. The really bizarre part was that all the clubs were pleased with the status quo. Very few people wanted to rock the boat. This was not that long ago either.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
15. It gets better, in many towns there are 2 Jewish ckubs
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:19 PM
Jan 2017

The German Jews did not want to associate with the Russian Jews.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
17. I don't play golf in Westchester
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:27 PM
Jan 2017

But when I do, I am on a public course 🏌

http://takimag.com/article/the_myth_of_the_golf_nazi_steve_sailer/print#axzz4W2p3Ydjp

But an even bigger surprise I discovered in my research is that these common memories of grandpapa’s application for membership being turned down for ethnic reasons generally didn’t involve Jews trying to get into gentile country clubs. Instead, Eastern European Jews were typically shot down by German Jewish country clubs who saw the nouveau riche immigrant Jews as pushy and crass Al Czerviks.

Sports Illustrated reported in 1962:

In larger cities one sometimes finds two or more Jewish clubs, the top one composed principally of German Jews who tend to find eastern European Jews unacceptable.

For example, Birmingham, Alabama long supported two standoffish Jewish country clubs. According to the Encyclopedia Judaica:

Since Jews were frozen out of local country clubs, they established the Hillcrest in 1883 for German Jews, and the Fairmont in 1920, for East European Jews. They merged in 1969, forming the Pine Tree Country Club, which opened its membership to non-Jews in 1991.

Stephen Birmingham writes:

But now, in nearly every American city of any size, there were at least two Jewish country clubs—the “good” one (German), and the less good (Russian). In New York, the best Jewish country club was the Germans’ Century Country Club in suburban White Plains [now Purchase]. The second-best was the Russians’ Sunningdale Golf Club in Scarsdale.



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wordpix

(18,652 posts)
14. beautiful and only forest land left on Rockville Pike so that won't be popular
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:14 PM
Jan 2017

I agree with your sentiment but on that land, no.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
18. One of the things I hope to see before I die
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:28 PM
Jan 2017

Is the death of golf clubs. According to all the articles on things that Millenials are supposedly ruining, golf is one of them because they're not playing it at the level previous generations did. I'm for what George Carlin suggested - turn them into housing for the poor.

TlalocW

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
23. Not all. Some want to group with Republicans & exterminate Pals with thousands of new buildings &
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:43 PM
Jan 2017

'no Pals allowed' segregation.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,185 posts)
24. Oh, I know it's not all
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:47 PM
Jan 2017

But I would think some would favor a 2 state solution if it meant peace. In any case, I would think SOME of the members of that country club are Obama supporters.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
31. Our countries Policy is 2 state solution, always been. It's our Republicans who assist & push anothe
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 03:08 PM
Jan 2017

push another country, Israel towards war & an unstable homeland.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
29. about 80% are per one study -- but many very wealthy Jews, don't
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 03:02 PM
Jan 2017

and they donate tons of money to Jewish organizations that used to not be political.

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
25. That should be his statement
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:50 PM
Jan 2017

"I will not be applying for membership at your facility, I have friends that I will be golfing with in the area"

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
38. My father never joined a club and it was less about cost then preferring to play different courses.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 04:35 PM
Jan 2017

He joined a great athletic club that has golf and fishing trips all over the world.

For the money you spend joining and staying a golf club, you can fly somewheres, see the world and experience much more.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
39. If you play with different people, you are supposed to host once in a while
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:20 PM
Jan 2017

Tough to do that with style unless you are a member. There are some sorts of Groupon type deals that let you play a few different clubs around the world, but maybe once a year, that makes getting better harder. If you are in sales, you need to be a member of a desirable club that your clients want to play at. If you like golf and don't have a plane, why would you fly around the world to play?

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
42. If you join an athletic club that organized fishing and golf trips around the world
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:52 PM
Jan 2017

you don't need a plane.

But I do see where certain businesses make having a golf club membership essentially a requirement.

TygrBright

(20,759 posts)
26. Headline's wrong: "Dickheads Will Be Dickheads, It's Not Exactly News"
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jan 2017

There.

Fixed it for ya.

Can we get back to paying attention to something that we can actually do something about?

helpfully,
Bright

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
27. I haven't seen any video of Obama banging on the club door trying to get in.
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:53 PM
Jan 2017

Somehow I think a million other golf clubs will welcome him with open arms. This place should change its name to Club Bigot.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
28. If He Shows Up At Congressional, They'll Alter The Tee Book. . .
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 02:57 PM
Jan 2017

. . .to get him on the course. Woodmont is just being stupid.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
35. If Trump wants to gain points he should give to Obama free lifetime memberships to All
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 03:48 PM
Jan 2017

of his courses here and world wide

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
40. The real reason is more mundane
Tue Jan 17, 2017, 05:29 PM
Jan 2017

When a president, or former president, golfs, the Secret Service basically shuts down the golf course and members get pat downs and searches for weapons. Plus, you have wingnuts who show up and protest, cause trouble, and generally screw things up. It's intrusive and not what you want when you join a golf course.

So, it's a pain in the ass.


But, on the bright side, I am rather excited that we Jews get to exclude someone from a country club for once. We've made it! It's the American Dream! (Yes, joking.)

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