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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:07 AM Jan 2017

Conway: WH Spox Wasn't Lying, He Was Just Offering 'Alternative Facts'

Source: Talking Points Memo

By ESME CRIBB Published JANUARY 22, 2017, 9:55 AM EDT

Senior Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway said in an interview Sunday morning that White House press secretary Sean Spicer wasn't lying about crowd size at the President's inaugurationhe was just giving "alternative facts."

"On this matter of crowd size, I think it is a symbol for the unfair and incomplete treatment that this president often receives," Conway told Chuck Todd on MSNBC's "Meet The Press."

"You did not answer the question of why the president asked the White House press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood," Todd interrupted. "Why did he do that? It undermines the credibility of the entire White House press office on day one."

"No, it doesn't. Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck," Conway replied. "You're saying it's a falsehood, and they're giving Sean Spicer, our press secretary, gave alternative facts to that. But the point really is"

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-spicer-offered-alternative-facts



Conway: People Expect Trump 'To Be The Only Big Man In The Equation'

Top Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway said in a Sunday interview that people expect the President "always to be the bigger man."

"It's when people attack him and then they wait to see what happens," Conway said in an interview on "Sunday Today."

She described Trump as a "counter-puncher," and said he has the right to "defend himself and clear the record."

"But at the same time, he swallows a great deal and looks the other way," Conway said. "And I just think we should give him a chance."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/conway-trump-expected-to-be-only-big-man
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Conway: WH Spox Wasn't Lying, He Was Just Offering 'Alternative Facts' (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
If the media wants to ever be taken seriously again they must no longer give her this AuntPatsy Jan 2017 #1
"Alternative Facts"???? PatSeg Jan 2017 #2
"Alternative facts" is one for the record books spiderpig Jan 2017 #9
Oh yeah! PatSeg Jan 2017 #23
Is "Alternative facts" a new way of lying? Guess it is, Trump and his team needs to stop lying. Thinkingabout Jan 2017 #27
That would be hard to do PatSeg Jan 2017 #29
"He swallows a great deal." briv1016 Jan 2017 #3
Kelly was talking Golden. sarcasmo Jan 2017 #26
I choose not to live in your 'reality' Conway. riversedge Jan 2017 #4
And Trump "swallows a great deal PatSeg Jan 2017 #5
Depends on who's doing the peeing. randome Jan 2017 #10
+1 dalton99a Jan 2017 #12
He's never going to live that one down PatSeg Jan 2017 #24
Here's the windup...and the pitch. Girard442 Jan 2017 #28
Alternative Fact: Enrico Caruso, the Andrews Sisters, and Buddy Holly sang at the Inaugural Ball... Mrs. Overall Jan 2017 #6
Her kids will grow up in the same world as ours PennyK Jan 2017 #7
KellyAt Conjob strikes again WhiteTara Jan 2017 #8
lol Baghdad Bobbette Mr. Sparkle Jan 2017 #11
If you want to hurry along the impeachment of Trump, the world/ media need to poke and criticize him lancelyons Jan 2017 #13
seems like it is well underway Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #15
this is so fucking insane, it is mind boggling Fast Walker 52 Jan 2017 #14
"No, it doesn't." No I'm not, you are! underpants Jan 2017 #16
She is such a garrison cap Marthe48 Jan 2017 #17
Nearly spit my coffee onto my laptop when I found that article. Destined to be a classic NRaleighLiberal Jan 2017 #18
Wouldnt there have to actually be a "fact" in there Kelly rather than say a "fiction" because cstanleytech Jan 2017 #19
Alternative facts, fake news, Russian dominance... LakeArenal Jan 2017 #20
But, but lordsummerisle Jan 2017 #21
How about he becomes president in an alternative universe then? LisaL Jan 2017 #22
Even UberFhrer Trump can't un-ring a bell Blue Idaho Jan 2017 #25
Kellyanne Conway says Donald Trumps team has alternative facts. Which pretty much says it all. OKIsItJustMe Jan 2017 #30
Why didn't he just say "lies?" murielm99 Jan 2017 #36
Alternative Facts, my ass! smirkymonkey Jan 2017 #31
"Alternative facts" is an oxymoron, a contradiction of terms. no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #32
Sounds like something that's drug induced Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #33
K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Jan 2017 #34
Trump facts that will come out in the next few weeks jO456 Jan 2017 #35
My first post Tankman Jan 2017 #37
Welcome to DU, Tankman!! Great first post!! (eom) StevieM Jan 2017 #38

AuntPatsy

(9,904 posts)
1. If the media wants to ever be taken seriously again they must no longer give her this
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:10 AM
Jan 2017

free platform to spew her bs

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
9. "Alternative facts" is one for the record books
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:22 AM
Jan 2017

Along with Bullet Necklace's explanation about DT contradicting himself:

(something like) "He didn't change his position. He just used different words to say what he means."

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
23. Oh yeah!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:16 PM
Jan 2017

That was a good one. I wonder what ever happened to her. Well, I really don't want to know, but it appears she might have been too clueless even for the Trump campaign/administration.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
29. That would be hard to do
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 01:09 PM
Jan 2017

when they probably don't even know what is true and what isn't. Compulsive liars get to the point where they believe their own lies.

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
5. And Trump "swallows a great deal
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jan 2017

and looks the other way"??? Which way could that possibly be? Toward his iPhone? The late night hosts and SNL are going to have a field day with Kellyanne this season.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Depends on who's doing the peeing.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:24 AM
Jan 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"If you're bored then you're boring." -Harvey Danger[/center][/font][hr]

PatSeg

(47,430 posts)
24. He's never going to live that one down
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:18 PM
Jan 2017
We need a golden shower smiley! It would come in so handy.

Girard442

(6,071 posts)
28. Here's the windup...and the pitch.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jan 2017

Easy straight line right down the middle of the strike zone!

And it's.........outta here!!!

Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
6. Alternative Fact: Enrico Caruso, the Andrews Sisters, and Buddy Holly sang at the Inaugural Ball...
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:16 AM
Jan 2017

And so did Elvis, Louis Armstrong, and John Lennon.

It was an amazing evening of music for the newly-elected president.

None of these legends performed for Obama.

WIN!

PennyK

(2,302 posts)
7. Her kids will grow up in the same world as ours
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jan 2017

How much money must she be getting for this gig?
Enough to sell your soul and your children's souls. At least, they'll be able to afford Martin Shkreli's drugs when they can't breathe the polluted air.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
13. If you want to hurry along the impeachment of Trump, the world/ media need to poke and criticize him
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:27 AM
Jan 2017

If you want to hurry along the impeachment of Trump, the world/ media need to poke and criticize him.

He will respond and generally make things worse.

The entire office of the president has been disparaged by Trump, Conway, GOP for turning a blind eye.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
14. this is so fucking insane, it is mind boggling
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:29 AM
Jan 2017

at least the media seems to be catching on

That MTP segment was unbelievably heinous from KAC.

underpants

(182,803 posts)
16. "No, it doesn't." No I'm not, you are!
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:33 AM
Jan 2017

As always play the victim card. Counter puncher my ass. He's a jerk and a bully.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
18. Nearly spit my coffee onto my laptop when I found that article. Destined to be a classic
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jan 2017

I take it she wasn't wearing that spiffy new red, white and blue Barbie outfit with the kitty buttons?

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
19. Wouldnt there have to actually be a "fact" in there Kelly rather than say a "fiction" because
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 11:38 AM
Jan 2017

what Spicer and Trump are claiming was not a "fact" it was 100% pure "fiction".

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
25. Even UberFhrer Trump can't un-ring a bell
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 12:44 PM
Jan 2017

KellyAnne CrackAddict and all the president's men can't hide the lies the big orange baby tells to stroke his gaping hole of need.

OKIsItJustMe

(19,938 posts)
30. Kellyanne Conway says Donald Trumps team has alternative facts. Which pretty much says it all.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 02:13 PM
Jan 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/01/22/kellyanne-conway-says-donald-trumps-team-has-alternate-facts-which-pretty-much-says-it-all/
[font face=Serif][font size=5]Kellyanne Conway says Donald Trump’s team has ‘alternative facts.’ Which pretty much says it all.[/font]

By Aaron Blake January 22 at 11:38 AM

[font size=3]
"Alternative facts are not facts. They are falsehoods," Chuck Todd tells Pres. Trump's counselor Kellyanne Conway this morning. WATCH: pic.twitter.com/Ao005dQ13r

— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) January 22, 2017


If there is one video clip that describes the new reality for the political media — and for the truth — during the President Trump era, it is the one above.

It's a discussion about White House press secretary Sean Spicer, on his first full day in that job, having taken to the podium and made easily disproved claims about the size of Trump's inauguration crowd.

“Why put him out there for the very first time, in front of that podium, to utter a provable falsehood?” Chuck Todd asked Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president. “It's a small thing, but the first time he confronts the public, it's a falsehood?”

After some tense back and forth, Conway offered this:

Don't be so overly dramatic about it, Chuck. You're saying it's a falsehood, and they're giving — our press secretary, Sean Spicer, gave alternative facts to that. But the point really is —

…[/font][/font]

no_hypocrisy

(46,104 posts)
32. "Alternative facts" is an oxymoron, a contradiction of terms.
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 03:31 PM
Jan 2017

There is no such thing.

Therefore, it is a repackaged lie.

jO456

(61 posts)
35. Trump facts that will come out in the next few weeks
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jan 2017

When he was born a new star apears in the sky and a double rainbow forms.

He once golfed a 38 under par at one of his golf courses and 5 where hole in ones.


His forst and only time bowling he rolled a 300.

He has written 3 operas, which are the best ever. However releasing them will cause the music industry to crash.

He firat walked at age of 3 weeks and could talk at 8 weeks.

Tankman

(6 posts)
37. My first post
Sun Jan 22, 2017, 10:52 PM
Jan 2017

Been a lurker here for quiet awhile now. I just had to log in and post that this whole "alternative facts" thing is one (ok there are many) ignorant things that I have heard come out of this pres and cabinet's mouth. If this is how they are starting things off, the next 4 years are going to be nuts. I just hope we all survive - god help us.

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