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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,181 posts)
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:11 AM Jan 2017

Donald Trump says that 'environmentalism is out of control'

Source: Independent (UK)

Donald Trump, at meeting with car maker executives has said he intends to cut regulations and said "environmentalism is out of control".

President Trump is spending the morning meeting with auto executives as part of his push to bring jobs back to the US Mr Trump told his guests Tuesday at the White House that he's looking to ease regulations to help auto companies and any other businesses wishing to do business in the US





Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-says-that-environmentalism-is-out-of-control-automakers-a7543716.html



Dear Lord.

Not that I'm shocked that he himself would make a statement, but I'm shocked that such a statement is being made in this day and age.
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Donald Trump says that 'environmentalism is out of control' (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2017 OP
So says the man who lives in a gilded cage.. I've traveled all over, and the air pollution from secondwind Jan 2017 #1
I crossed border into Mexico & immediately noticed heavy air pollution wordpix Jan 2017 #34
Environmentalism is out of control! Phoenix61 Jan 2017 #2
You know, I always wanted a Love Canal in my back yard... Javaman Jan 2017 #3
Absolutely...you won't even notice the pollution...it'll be great...you'll Love it... kjones Jan 2017 #22
the best part is... Javaman Jan 2017 #23
Don't remember where it was... kjones Jan 2017 #24
it's the best! Toxic chemicals oozing out of the ground, end the regs! wordpix Jan 2017 #35
We need to be conscious consumers now more than ever. Demand efficient cars and clean production. JudyM Jan 2017 #4
Does this complete sexual predator idiot, realize, that if the auto makers try and sell cars turbinetree Jan 2017 #5
If any brand of bottled water is straight from the tap, it's Trump's world wide wally Jan 2017 #15
Good one...............will have to remember that turbinetree Jan 2017 #44
They'll sell it in China and developing countries IronLionZion Jan 2017 #16
I keep forgetting about China and Buicks turbinetree Jan 2017 #43
Clean air and water is SO OVERRATED!!1! bullwinkle428 Jan 2017 #6
Someone should tie him to a light pole in downtown Beijing and let him suck that air for a few hours catbyte Jan 2017 #7
we will be walking around bdamomma Jan 2017 #41
Trump is a mad man Botany Jan 2017 #8
He's going to get rid of the emission standards underpants Jan 2017 #9
I Don't Think The Automakers Think That In The Actual World ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #11
Good point underpants Jan 2017 #12
The use of It's v Its ffr Jan 2017 #18
I Think You Misunderstand ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #19
I completely understand your direction, but then you have your own grammar. ffr Jan 2017 #20
Yes I Do ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #26
Colorful narrative often contains more primacy and importance than mere accuracy... LanternWaste Jan 2017 #33
ffr is correct. Look it up. rickford66 Jan 2017 #21
Missing The Point ProfessorGAC Jan 2017 #25
Omfg this exchange is hillarious! Talk about ppl not getting it... dionysus Jan 2017 #32
Out of control? mobeau69 Jan 2017 #10
Trump is the one who is out of control... SylviaD Jan 2017 #13
Regulations Ovida11 Jan 2017 #14
He's going to approve the Keystone XL pipeline muriel_volestrangler Jan 2017 #17
He also said he was an environmentalist. yeoman6987 Jan 2017 #27
It only counts as pollution when the water is on fire. JHB Jan 2017 #28
Agree with the shock regarding his statement etherealtruth Jan 2017 #29
finally! the george carlin health care system! unblock Jan 2017 #30
Environment Public Health n/t KT2000 Jan 2017 #31
I think the republican idea of science is that logosoco Jan 2017 #36
As California goes, so goes the country sdfernando Jan 2017 #37
This is why we need to march on Earth Day! MountCleaners Jan 2017 #38
"Too much clean air is bad for your health" dalton99a Jan 2017 #39
he is climate change denier bdamomma Jan 2017 #40
Science and education are also totally out of control. milestogo Jan 2017 #42

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. So says the man who lives in a gilded cage.. I've traveled all over, and the air pollution from
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:17 AM
Jan 2017

car exhaust in some places is unbearable..

Even in the Caribbean, they have no emissions standards.. but at least there are the trade winds, etc.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
34. I crossed border into Mexico & immediately noticed heavy air pollution
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:58 PM
Jan 2017

and this in a very small town with little traffic.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
22. Absolutely...you won't even notice the pollution...it'll be great...you'll Love it...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jan 2017

Upper midwest here....have five superfund sites within half a dozen miles of my home.

Guess that's not "out of control."

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
23. the best part is...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:13 PM
Jan 2017

if I want to BBQ, I just have to light it on fire!

it's win win, a pool and a pit. LOL

kjones

(1,053 posts)
24. Don't remember where it was...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:20 PM
Jan 2017

I think it was Toledo, where that flaming river was (I think?)...
whatever, I just know that somewhere, the water was so polluted a
factory that drew water from the river had to stop using the river
water because it was too damaging to the machinery's piping.

...but what about my piping?

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
5. Does this complete sexual predator idiot, realize, that if the auto makers try and sell cars
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:31 AM
Jan 2017

in other countries, they have to comply with the environmental regulations of the country they are trying to sell, that is business 101 economics, not fraud economics like in a University Trump world.

And does this fascists idiot not realize, that to manufacture a car with or without environmental controls drives the price up when you have two different emissions style cars, lead emissions is not good, Co2 is not good, benzene is not good, methane is not good, just for environmental starters.

I guess he wants to sell his brand of water to make up the ones that will become more polluted.

I guess he hasn't looked at Flint, Michigan lately, they still don't have clean drinking water-----------------------what a deplorable right wing hypocrite.

He really has no empathy for the anything all he sees is money

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
16. They'll sell it in China and developing countries
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:33 PM
Jan 2017

Europe is not much of a market for American cars but China loves Buick for some reason.

California has stricter emissions standards than the US as a whole, so they do produce cars with different standards for that one state.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
43. I keep forgetting about China and Buicks
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:13 AM
Jan 2017

but now that he has decided that whatever China does with islands in the South China sea, watch out, he has already basically threatened them----again, looks like sales are going to go down


catbyte

(34,376 posts)
7. Someone should tie him to a light pole in downtown Beijing and let him suck that air for a few hours
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:34 AM
Jan 2017

Asshole. We are so fucked.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
9. He's going to get rid of the emission standards
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:41 AM
Jan 2017

The auto makers for some reason think that hurts sales.

Snowflake, you simple rube, they aren't just going to build plants or increase production unless the market calls for it.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
11. I Don't Think The Automakers Think That In The Actual World
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:51 AM
Jan 2017

Only in It's world. The sales of domestically produced cars went up 60% in the last 8 years all of which had these regulations, or while regulations were getting stricter. Since the "big 3" were barely afloat 9 years ago, those people know that their sales numbers and profitability are both up. They look at that stuff every day.

The only people who think regs are costing sales is It and It's supporters.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
12. Good point
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jan 2017

The old Detroit crowd fought seat belts, catalytic converters, and airbags because they added to sticker price. Consumers and Bob Barker ("California emissions) changed that.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
18. The use of It's v Its
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:41 PM
Jan 2017

Not criticizing, as I too have made this mistake until it was explained to me.

It's can only be used as a contraction for It is or It has. The possessive use of Its, as in Its World, does not have an apostrophe as other possessive pronouns, like the owner's car or the lawyer's library.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
19. I Think You Misunderstand
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 12:48 PM
Jan 2017

I don't use the usurper's name. That person is "It". Therefore, IT'S imagination would be that person's imagination. It's (get it?) not a contraction for It Is, it is intended to indicate the possessive of someone i will only call "it". So, i am using it exactly as you suggest, but i admit it would be confusing because i won't use that person's name.

On Edit: To be slightly clearer, if i used that person's name it would be T****'s. Since i only use "it" that word is a substitute for the name.

So, while i know the grammar well, and you are correct, in this case the context changes things.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
20. I completely understand your direction, but then you have your own grammar.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:03 PM
Jan 2017

Professor,

It's difficult to read saying "Therefore, IT IS imagination would be that person's imagination." It Is imagination?

I see this all the time with the use of too and to. That item costs to much or is to small. Substitute ta for to and you can see how difficult this becomes to read. That item costs ta much or is ta small. Because when you read 'I went from here to there,' you can substitute ta and it still flows. I went from here ta there.

Do what you want, but using IT'S as anything but a contraction for It IS or It HAS just makes for difficult reading and comprehension.

It's v. its.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
26. Yes I Do
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:28 PM
Jan 2017

The grammar is specific to the application where i will substitute "it" for that person's name.

In ALL other circumstances, i use it correctly and normally.

I'm bending the rules because i won't mention "it" by name.

On Edit: You folks are thinking you're lecturing me on proper grammar. I know the proper grammar. I'm choosing to ignore it in this frame of reference.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
33. Colorful narrative often contains more primacy and importance than mere accuracy...
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 02:35 PM
Jan 2017

Colorful narrative often contains more primacy and importance than mere accuracy...

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
25. Missing The Point
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jan 2017

I'm using the word "it" in a non-traditional sense. I'm replacing the surname with it. (no pun intended)

I know the grammar. I disagree that in this context the standard grammatical rules apply.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
27. He also said he was an environmentalist.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jan 2017

I can't believe what he gets away with. And no I'm not talking 2 work days as president. I'm talking 18 months. Agrivating. As his cabinet is getting appointed one after the other. Ugh!

JHB

(37,159 posts)
28. It only counts as pollution when the water is on fire.
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:32 PM
Jan 2017

River water, that is. They're ok with flaming tap water, as long as it's not their faucet.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
29. Agree with the shock regarding his statement
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:34 PM
Jan 2017

Every time he speaks I am compelled to ask: can anyone truly be this ignorant?

unblock

(52,208 posts)
30. finally! the george carlin health care system!
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 01:40 PM
Jan 2017

build up your immune system by swimming in the hudson with raw sewage!

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
37. As California goes, so goes the country
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jan 2017

Car emission standards were started by California. The market it too big to ignore (6th largest economy in the world, just past France). We need to hold the line in CA to save the rest of the country.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
40. he is climate change denier
Tue Jan 24, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jan 2017

what fcuking stupid man well Russia got what they wanted a moron being pResident.

This man is no American he is enemy of the state.

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