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highplainsdem

(49,088 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:45 PM Jan 2017

Texas Border Cities React to Donald Trump's Border Wall

Source: WSJ

DALLAS—Some officials in Texas’ border communities, who have benefited from stronger economic ties with Mexico, reacted with concern to news that President Donald Trump would announce plans Wednesday to speed construction of a border wall.

“Building walls and alienating our neighbors will damage the American economy and create job losses—which completely runs afoul of Trump’s campaign themes,” said Judge Veronica Escobar, a Democrat and the chief executive of El Paso County, a Texas border region.

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Officials in Texas border cities and towns said they welcomed enhanced border security, but that constructing a wall was impractical and unnecessary, because of existing fencing in some areas and natural barriers like the Rio Grande in others. And some here said that a more secure border could be achieved through a combination of expanded fencing, more Border Patrol officers and virtual technology.

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The state’s border cities also worry about Mr. Trump’s promise to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, which has benefited Texas. The state is the nation’s top exporter of goods, federal data show, and trade with Mexico is a critical cog in the economy here. From 1994, when Nafta took effect, to 2015, exports from the state to Mexico grew 236%, according to a recent report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas.

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Read more: http://www.wsj.com/articles/texas-border-cities-react-to-donald-trumps-border-wall-1485356419



Of course if all they do is enhance border security, the reasonable policy, President Putinpuppet won't get a chance to pose wearing a hardhat next to his brand new wall -- which you can bet his own companies, or at least his cronies, will profit from.
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Texas Border Cities React to Donald Trump's Border Wall (Original Post) highplainsdem Jan 2017 OP
Walls are the last thing America would do, this is not America anymore, Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #1
Maybe it's just me but it's like Snowflake didn't think this out underpants Jan 2017 #2
I'm confused atreides1 Jan 2017 #3
It's a big state IronLionZion Jan 2017 #11
Yes, but South Texas is quite blue TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #14
Yep south is more democratic voting, look at Texas map here! Madam45for2923 Jan 2017 #16
I live in Texas and all I want to say is this... Javaman Jan 2017 #4
I hit a paywall with this specific article, LeftInTX Jan 2017 #6
There were articles about it - but Blue_Adept Jan 2017 #7
Fucking mind boggling isn't it? Initech Jan 2017 #10
Look at the map TexasBushwhacker Jan 2017 #17
They also need to consider the ad revenue of putting billboards up all over the wall for Trump hotel cbdo2007 Jan 2017 #5
My concern Generator Jan 2017 #8
I just watched Cristela Alonzo's Standup special on Netflix forgotmylogin Jan 2017 #9
Trump needs to put up the money safeinOhio Jan 2017 #12
They tried to do this during the Bush administration. alarimer Jan 2017 #13
They are probably like the CA/Mexico border city I lived in rainbow4321 Jan 2017 #15

Eliot Rosewater

(31,131 posts)
1. Walls are the last thing America would do, this is not America anymore,
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:49 PM
Jan 2017

and I sure hope 3rd party voters are happy, that this is what they wanted.

underpants

(182,987 posts)
2. Maybe it's just me but it's like Snowflake didn't think this out
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jan 2017

Unneeded unwanted expensive and hurts the economy

IronLionZion

(45,614 posts)
11. It's a big state
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:38 PM
Jan 2017

with a large Democratic minority. It should become a swing state eventually as it gets more diverse

TexasBushwhacker

(20,229 posts)
14. Yes, but South Texas is quite blue
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 04:01 PM
Jan 2017

Furthermore, exports from Texas to Mexico since NAFTA went up by $16B and created 190K jobs. A big wall and gutting NAFTA will hurt Texas bigly.

Javaman

(62,534 posts)
4. I live in Texas and all I want to say is this...
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 12:57 PM
Jan 2017

where the fuck were these boarder cities when the orange menace starting blathering about this bullshit?

me thinks, they "didn't actually believe him".

I have been tracking this crap since that fucking orange jerk first announced this complete pile of bullshit and the rampant moron right wing were all about building this fucking stupid ass fantasy wall.

now that the rubber meets the road, they are all suddenly concerned.

Un-fucking-believable.

LeftInTX

(25,705 posts)
6. I hit a paywall with this specific article,
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jan 2017

but there have been concerns all along. Some ranchers on the river want the wall (I think between Del Rio to Laredo) but many in the lower Rio Grande Valley don't want it.

Inland ranchers prefer the wall over those bordering the river. Duh, it's not in their backyard! These inland ranches tend to be quite large which makes it harder for ranchers to keep trespassers out.

The border basically voted for Hillary. Turn out along the border was much higher than any other election! (This is huge progress) The border has always had very low voter turn out. So progress was made.

Blue_Adept

(6,402 posts)
7. There were articles about it - but
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:20 PM
Jan 2017

the fear by others around the country of others from other countries was considered more important. The fear of immigrants, legal and undocumented, by those in Iowa got a whole lot more attention.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,229 posts)
17. Look at the map
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 06:00 PM
Jan 2017

Almost every county along the border went for Clinton. The bigger cities, Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, and El Paso were blue too.



McCain got 55%, Romney 57% and Trump got 52%.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
8. My concern
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:24 PM
Jan 2017

I am so paranoid I don't want a wall for the people that are already here. What if WE need to get out. No walls. It never works.

forgotmylogin

(7,539 posts)
9. I just watched Cristela Alonzo's Standup special on Netflix
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 01:29 PM
Jan 2017

While I don't condone illegal immigration, she puts the wall firmly in perspective. "Doesn't he know we use tunnels now?"

And (paraphrased) He builds the wall to California. What's left? Ocean. We'll swim. He's turning us into triathletes: running, climbing, swimming...

She repeats an abridged version of the bit on The View, and also talks about her experience at the March. Her standup on Netflix is side-splitting, and provides her personal insight into the immigrant experience, so catch it if you can.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
13. They tried to do this during the Bush administration.
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 03:53 PM
Jan 2017

And in fact built some of these walls, much to the dismay of people living there. In some cases, the wall crosses private land (because you can't actually put a wall in the middle of a river) and locks people on the wrong side. They also exempted the wall from environmental laws like environmental impact reviews and the like. I expect Trump's wall to do the same.

Some of the "wall" is merely cameras, drones and surveillance rather than an actual wall.

What it was meant to do was to reduce illegal immigration. What it ACTUALLY did was cause needless deaths by driving people to cross in the middle of the desert.

So it was cruel but also unnecessary because illegal immigration is a net 0.

rainbow4321

(9,974 posts)
15. They are probably like the CA/Mexico border city I lived in
Wed Jan 25, 2017, 04:29 PM
Jan 2017

The city, El Centro, CA, had the highest unemployment rate in the country. But to look at the city itself it was flourishing. Huge mall, always packed. So many high end stores in the city shopping district.
I asked locals about it. They said those stores and the local economy were supported by Mexican citizens who came over to shop. While our prices are higher, there were brands not available in Mexico.
At the same time, many US snowbirds come down and use Mexico for cheap medical care/medications/dental work. Mexican side border towns are filled with dental clinics all vying for American dollars.

I remember seeing 2 elderly US men high fiving each other when they talked about how they were Trump supporters. They were at a US resort a mile from the border in Arizona that I was visiting.

No doubt in my mind that they were medical tourists, as were many others there at the resort.
Stopping the flow of people thru the borders will hurt cities on both sides of the border. I imagine the same holds true for Texas.

I knew of at least one person at work who lived in Mexico but worked in the US. Cheaper living in Mexico with higher US pay.

A number of our patients lived in Mexico but were US citizens (with US healthcare benefits/Medicare, etc..). When they would get sick, they would have a Mexican ambulance literally bring them to the border where a US ambulance would pick them up and bring them to US hospitals.

US border city residents should be scared. Their local economies are about to crash. The rest of the country should be scared because all those Mexican workers who come here to work in the agriculture industry in the fields are about to be severely impacted. Good luck finding Americans to fill those roles. Higher prices for food will kick in soon after drumf stops Mexican citizens from coming here.

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