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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:18 PM Jan 2017

Kaine will oppose Carson after Brown, Warren back nomination

Source: The Hill



BY PETER SCHROEDER - 01/30/17 03:46 PM EST

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.) announced Monday that he would oppose Ben Carson’s nomination to head the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), citing his “zero experience” in that area.

In a statement, Kaine said he would vote against Carson on the Senate floor after the former neurosurgeon and GOP presidential candidate was cleared unanimously from the Senate Banking Committee.

“Putting someone in charge with zero experience in housing policy or urban development sends a message that the Department’s work is a low priority. I strongly object to this,” Kaine said in a statement. “Just as some positions demand medical expertise, HUD deserves a leader who embraces the Department’s mission and possesses the skills needed to run the nation’s largest housing and community development programs.”

Kaine, who ran last year as Hillary Clinton's vice presidential pick, is viewed as a more moderate Democrat. But his opposition to Carson comes after liberal stalwarts on the Banking Committee felt blowback from their base for letting Carson’s nomination pass without objection.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/finance/316932-kaine-will-oppose-carson-after-brown-warren-back-pick

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Kaine will oppose Carson after Brown, Warren back nomination (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2017 OP
Yay! Mike Nelson Jan 2017 #1
Good job! Lulu KC Jan 2017 #2
good. democrats care about housing, so we should oppose Carson La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #3
Interesting you call the only black nominee lazy. former9thward Jan 2017 #18
Firstly I am way too lazy to lead a federal department La Lioness Priyanka Jan 2017 #20
Warren and Brown backing Carson Seedersandleechers Jan 2017 #4
Time for some faxes need to be sent. DK504 Jan 2017 #16
Thank you Tim Kaine! -Steph- Jan 2017 #5
I do not know why Warren and Brown are backing Carson. Else You Are Mad Jan 2017 #6
Warren has always done the politically expedient thing. joshcryer Jan 2017 #11
good. How could ANYBODY... N E BAAA D pangaia Jan 2017 #7
Thanks to Kaine brer cat Jan 2017 #8
I really like this statement from Senator Kaine, brer Cha Jan 2017 #21
Oh, Cha. brer cat Jan 2017 #22
I know... Thank you! Cha Jan 2017 #23
Good. Carson has 'Samuel Pierce' written all over. tenorly Jan 2017 #9
I think Kaine would have done this regardless. Sunny05 Jan 2017 #10
Carson would better spend his time examining Trump's brain Angry Dragon Jan 2017 #12
How could they, let alone anyone, back that worthless wet rag?? Hulk Jan 2017 #13
Carson's unqualified, but I don't think he's actively malicious Retrograde Jan 2017 #24
No sh*t without objection. GDit democrats have you learned nothing in 8 years usaf-vet Jan 2017 #14
and learned nothing from 8 years of Baby Bush yurbud Jan 2017 #27
Shameful for any Democrats to support a piece of filth like Carson. Paladin Jan 2017 #15
K&R mcar Jan 2017 #17
What in the FUCK is wrong with Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown? BigDemVoter Jan 2017 #19
if Trump had appointed him surgeon general, maybe yurbud Jan 2017 #25
I never thought I'd be on same said as Kaine and against Warren yurbud Jan 2017 #26
 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
3. good. democrats care about housing, so we should oppose Carson
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:30 PM
Jan 2017

even though Carson is simply too lazy to actual do anything at HUD

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
18. Interesting you call the only black nominee lazy.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:05 PM
Jan 2017

One of Carson's surgeries lasted 52 hours. If you have a job do you work 52 straight hours? Have you ever worked 52 straight hours at anything?

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
20. Firstly I am way too lazy to lead a federal department
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 09:45 PM
Jan 2017

Secondly, he himself says he is not competent for the job of heading a fed dept.

Thirdly, his performance thru the GOP primary indicated a severe laziness in his approach to government.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
6. I do not know why Warren and Brown are backing Carson.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 05:35 PM
Jan 2017

By voting g to approve of Carson does not make any difference because all Carson needs is a simple majority of the Senate -- which the GOP has. Now, when Carson funnels money to Trump and/or Kushner properties, the Trump administration can counter such by saying "Warren, one of the most liberal Democrats, voted to confirm Carson so why are you complaining you agreed he was a good choice!"

No matter how you spin this, Warren really fucked the Democratic party because she gained no political capital and hurt the party in the long run.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
11. Warren has always done the politically expedient thing.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:20 PM
Jan 2017

When he ran TARP oversight she didn't ruffle feathers at all, and when she head CFPB creation she allowed it to be the only admin to be vetoed by other admins (a break from the Administrative Pricedure Act).

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
8. Thanks to Kaine
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 06:36 PM
Jan 2017

for supporting Democratic party values. I can't imagine how any Democrat could justify supporting Carson.

Cha

(297,192 posts)
21. I really like this statement from Senator Kaine, brer
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:11 PM
Jan 2017

Exactly as it should be. I happen to be a recipient of getting help from HUD.. and more than a little apprehensive about what will happen with the crime lords taking over. There's a lot of us out here!

brer cat

(24,562 posts)
22. Oh, Cha.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:15 PM
Jan 2017

More anxiety! The people who will be hurt by this maladministration will number in the millions and millions. I hope you won't be among them.

Cha

(297,192 posts)
23. I know... Thank you!
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:22 PM
Jan 2017

So many people are getting help with their expensive rent.. it's gaged on one's income.. with trump vengeful hate. who the hell knows what will happen.

That's what the woman at the HUD office said.. in so many words.

Mahalo, brer

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
9. Good. Carson has 'Samuel Pierce' written all over.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:12 PM
Jan 2017

To those unfamiliar with Pierce, this was the infamous Reagan HUD Secretary who not only supported segregation despite being African-American himself; but used his office to enrich himself and his friends and hangers-on like there was no tomorrow.

The difference is that, unlike the Pierce scandal, there are absolutely no checks and balances to hold grifters like Carson and Trump accountable any more.

Sunny05

(865 posts)
10. I think Kaine would have done this regardless.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:15 PM
Jan 2017

He understands housing issues very, well, as his earlier legal career and much of his political career have focused on just this. He "gets it".

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
13. How could they, let alone anyone, back that worthless wet rag??
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:53 PM
Jan 2017

There has to be some explanation as to why Brown and Warren would back such an unqualified douche bag?? I'll be waiting to hear what it is.

"Picking your battles" is NOT what I want to hear. You can pick many battles, but at least stand up for principles.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
24. Carson's unqualified, but I don't think he's actively malicious
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 10:22 PM
Jan 2017

unlike most of the nominees. The country's in sad shape when he looks like one of the better ones.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
14. No sh*t without objection. GDit democrats have you learned nothing in 8 years
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:55 PM
Jan 2017

Obama was obstructed at every step. Stop being nice. Nice is being stupid. It's an alley fight bring a GD shovel to bury the remains.

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
15. Shameful for any Democrats to support a piece of filth like Carson.
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 07:57 PM
Jan 2017

Thank you, Senator Kaine, for voting against trump's inexperienced, prejudiced, hateful pick to head up HUD.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
19. What in the FUCK is wrong with Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown?
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 08:15 PM
Jan 2017

I had thought of giving money to Warren, but NO FUCKING WAY now. Talk, talk, talk, talk. . . . NO action.

I'm not saying that Warren is bad, but I'm more than a little annoyed with her, as she KNOWS better.

In any case, if there is something I should be aware of regarding Ms. Warren, please let me know, as I have always liked her.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
25. if Trump had appointed him surgeon general, maybe
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 10:18 AM
Jan 2017

That's just a bully pulpit, and since it touches on their profession, eighties in the job sometimes do well, like C Everett Coop.

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