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Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 10:28 PM Jul 2012

Romney accuses Obama of casting shame on success

Source: AP-Excite

By STEVE PEOPLES and JIM KUHNHENN

IRWIN, Pa. (AP) - A fiery Mitt Romney on Tuesday accused President Barack Obama of believing the government is more vital to a thriving economy than the nation's workers and dreamers, scrambling to get back on message by declaring of Obama, "I'm convinced he wants Americans to be ashamed of success."

The new Romney approach came as Democrats pressed for the release of more of Romney's tax returns and hounded the Republican candidate over discrepancies in when he left his private equity firm. The conservative magazine National Review urged Romney to release more of his tax records.

Obama has been trying to keep Romney focused on matters other than the sluggish economy, even releasing a single-shot TV ad Tuesday that suggests Romney gamed the system so well that he may not have paid any taxes at all for years.

As the campaign's tenor grew combative, Romney seized on comments Obama uttered while campaigning in Virginia last week. The president, making a point about the supportive role government plays in building the nation, said in part: "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20120717/DA02VGBG1.html




Republican presidential candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney gestures during a campaign event at Horizontal Wireline Services on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 in Irwin, Pa. (AP Photo/Evan Vucci)

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Romney accuses Obama of casting shame on success (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jul 2012 OP
Crookery ain't success. nt onehandle Jul 2012 #1
Put another way, you SHOULD be ashamed of being a successful crook. SunSeeker Jul 2012 #22
Nice try, but it's about casting shame on corruption and greed. polichick Jul 2012 #2
good on the AP for providing the full context. alp227 Jul 2012 #3
dont be ashamed, Mitt Enrique Jul 2012 #4
Its actually a shadow Mitt, a shadow. Historic NY Jul 2012 #5
Goppers can't run on nothing since they have no accomplishments Iliyah Jul 2012 #6
Romney: No Shame For Fat Vultures JHB Jul 2012 #7
Nope Flatpicker Jul 2012 #8
+1000!!! FirstLight Jul 2012 #14
Romney spells success with a capital randr Jul 2012 #9
If Romney's so proud of his "success", why doesn't he disclose how he did it? bluesbassman Jul 2012 #10
Good idea! KansDem Jul 2012 #31
He is soooooooooo full of shit. Punkingal Jul 2012 #11
Government is the system that allows people to succeed. krispos42 Jul 2012 #12
and the reason I LOVE the Obama Campaign?? They're already on this meme! progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #13
I agree... elzenmahn Jul 2012 #18
Romney, the federal government bailed you out for the Olympics Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #15
Like there was ever a chance Rmoney could fail treestar Jul 2012 #16
Spoken like a man... elzenmahn Jul 2012 #17
You SHOULD be ashamed of Romney's version of success jmowreader Jul 2012 #19
Good lord. He's shaming himself by hiding his taxes. Kablooie Jul 2012 #20
Romney really looks tired in that picture. SunSeeker Jul 2012 #21
He's been looking awful lately. Frank Cannon Jul 2012 #23
He looks like a loser. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #28
Shame is yours, Mitt bucolic_frolic Jul 2012 #24
Obama has never made anybody feel ashamed of success. Who writes this shit for romney? The_Casual_Observer Jul 2012 #25
Romney does that get the red out Jul 2012 #26
success = using others & taking advantage of the vulnerable, for GREED. Is that what Republicans patrice Jul 2012 #27
Hiding money in off shore accounts equals R monies idea of success. sarcasmo Jul 2012 #29
Success = letting young adults DIE, because PROFITS are more important than care: patrice Jul 2012 #30
Horizontal Wireline Services is a FRACKING service. What do you want to bet that they are patrice Jul 2012 #32
Rmoney is an annying jerkface. zellie Jul 2012 #33
No shame for success if honestly aquired like Obama did. cstanleytech Jul 2012 #34

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
22. Put another way, you SHOULD be ashamed of being a successful crook.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:38 AM
Jul 2012

By the way, I'm loving the Romney is a crook meme. Thank you MoveOn.org! It really is just stating the obvious, though.

alp227

(32,020 posts)
3. good on the AP for providing the full context.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jul 2012

this afternoon I peeked at "The Savage Nation" and Michael Savage was going off hysterically about Obama's business comment and even went to the depths of absurd by scrutinizing whether Obama ever held odd jobs as a teenager or college student. Essentially to make the point that Obama is clueless about how business works. And this "Obama's war on success" meme has been going on for the past 2 years including a whole BOOK about such: "The War on Success" by Tommy Newberry, a Christian motivational speaker and founder of an aptly named entrepreneurial firm, "The 1% Club" (founded in 1991, 20 years before the Occupy movement).

i don't know whether you can ever convince someone who's subscribed to the Ayn Rand narcissistic cult ideology about the importance of infrastructure or public works, ever.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
4. dont be ashamed, Mitt
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jul 2012

admit you were the one who outsourced those jobs. I like to fire people and Im proud of it.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. Goppers can't run on nothing since they have no accomplishments
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jul 2012

Mittens even had the nerve to read from Pres O's speech and distorted O's words. Lie, cheat, steal, distort, make up shit, and a hell of a lot of money to try and buy elections.

Success, yeah right - cheaters

Flatpicker

(894 posts)
8. Nope
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 10:47 PM
Jul 2012

Not ashamed Mitt, but it's time that you accept the fact that your kind have broken the social contract that this country ran on.

Business make money by using public roads, government subsidized infrastructure, public law enforcement and fire fighting services, etc etc.

Then once you get big enough you decide that you no longer have to put into the system that you have used to become what you are. You break the social contract because you continue to use the systems in place, but no longer want to pay for them. Then you criticize us for holding you to a social standard.

I'm not ashamed of success, I'm ashamed of you and your followers Mitt.

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
14. +1000!!!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 12:27 AM
Jul 2012


I think the Social Contract angle should be used more, personally. Corruption of the social contract is the reason these pigs think the poor are at fault for being so...rather than looking at the system they play like a casino...

bluesbassman

(19,372 posts)
10. If Romney's so proud of his "success", why doesn't he disclose how he did it?
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 10:52 PM
Jul 2012

Wiilard .... Willard ... anyone?

Yeah, that's what I figured.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
31. Good idea!
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:48 AM
Jul 2012

It will be an educational experience for the rest of us! See how Mitt did it so we can do it too!

C'mon, Mitt! Educate us! I want to be rich and successful, too!!!

Punkingal

(9,522 posts)
11. He is soooooooooo full of shit.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 10:55 PM
Jul 2012

I wonder if this increasingly crazy talk isn't going to backfire on him with undecided voters. Right wing idiots will believe him, but what about independents?

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
12. Government is the system that allows people to succeed.
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 11:13 PM
Jul 2012

With no system, you have Somalia.

Plenty of excellent businessmen in Somalia. But without the institutions of government, no matter how well the "successful" people are doing (the warlords) the vast majority of people are in deep poverty and unable to advance their situation.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
13. and the reason I LOVE the Obama Campaign?? They're already on this meme!
Tue Jul 17, 2012, 11:27 PM
Jul 2012

You KNOW that they'll be responding by tomorrow with THEIR definition of success, which does not mean destroying American companies for profit, then sending the jobs to China and India.

I have never seen such a well-run campaign.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
18. I agree...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:13 AM
Jul 2012

...they know what's at stake, and they can't afford to be anything except perfect (or damned close to it), considering the veritable Fort Knox of cash R-Money has at his disposal.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
16. Like there was ever a chance Rmoney could fail
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:04 AM
Jul 2012

And just why does failure have to be punished with starvation? And whose failure is it? If Rmoney had been born into the lower middle class, he'd be an auto mechanic right now. No, come to think of it, he'd be in jail for assault.

elzenmahn

(904 posts)
17. Spoken like a man...
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:11 AM
Jul 2012

...who was born on third base and thought he hit a triple.

Anyone looking forward to the Repub convention? Imagine a whole heapin' helpin' of the Rombot - and that's assuming no drama at the convention, which I would not put past the attendees if his numbers continue to slip.

And the debates? Oh, man, bring the Orville Redenbacher and your best beer. Obama's going to have a field day with him...

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
19. You SHOULD be ashamed of Romney's version of success
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:10 AM
Jul 2012

The only thing that guy was ever successful at was making so much money for himself he has to keep it in a Spandex billfold.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
20. Good lord. He's shaming himself by hiding his taxes.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:22 AM
Jul 2012

Once again a Republican criticises others for his own failings.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
21. Romney really looks tired in that picture.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 02:32 AM
Jul 2012

I guess lying is hard work. When did he get those bags under his eyes?

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
23. He's been looking awful lately.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 07:16 AM
Jul 2012

He's going to be a chain-smoking drunk by the time November rolls around, if he even makes it that long.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
24. Shame is yours, Mitt
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 08:26 AM
Jul 2012

I'm ashamed of you, Mitt. You're the sorriest excuse for a presidential
candidate this country has ever seen. Release your taxes, if you've got
something to hide explain it, not the other way around.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
27. success = using others & taking advantage of the vulnerable, for GREED. Is that what Republicans
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 10:58 AM
Jul 2012

want to say?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
30. Success = letting young adults DIE, because PROFITS are more important than care:
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.salon.com/2012/07/18/dark_side_of_a_bain_success/

Clockwise from top left: Brendan Blum, Sergey Blashchishen, Matthew Meyer and Lindsey Poteet. Aspen Education already faced a wrongful death lawsuit over Meyer when Bain and CRC Health Group bought the company in 2006. Six deaths since the takeover, including Blum, Blashchishen and Poteet, have generated either lawsuits or complaints of neglect.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=968267

patrice

(47,992 posts)
32. Horizontal Wireline Services is a FRACKING service. What do you want to bet that they are
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 12:00 PM
Jul 2012

being followed around by PRIVATE, cable-tv-pricing-model, access to water that is not poison, built on VERY SPECIFIC click-trail qualified/identified customers?

True Story.


http://www.horizontalwireline.com/

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
34. No shame for success if honestly aquired like Obama did.
Wed Jul 18, 2012, 01:31 PM
Jul 2012

Plenty of shame if you do it in a way that hurts people and destroys families and ruins peoples lives and you know it does it but you keep on doing it.

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