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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:11 PM Feb 2017

Robert Harward turns down Trumps national security offer

Source: Financial Times

Donald Trump is trying to convince his preferred candidate to succeed Michael Flynn as national security adviser to change his mind after the retired admiral tapped for the role told the US president that he could not accept the White House position, according to two people familiar with the situation.

Mr Trump asked Robert Harward, a retired navy special forces officer to succeed Mr Flynn, who was fired as national security adviser on Monday. At a press conference on Thursday, he said his decision to replace Mr Flynn had been made easier because he had an “outstanding” candidate to serve as a replacement.

But Mr Harward is said to have turned Mr Trump down. “Harward is conflicted between the call of duty and the obvious dysfunctionality,” said one person with first hand knowledge of the discussions between Mr Trump and Mr Harward. The second person said Mr Trump had asked Mr Harward to return to the White House for another meeting to try to change his mind.


Read more: https://www.ft.com/content/e89c64b8-f494-11e6-95ee-f14e55513608

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Robert Harward turns down Trumps national security offer (Original Post) deminks Feb 2017 OP
then I am guessing that it is going to be gopiscrap Feb 2017 #1
Why not? Would that really be so out of pattern? Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #6
didn't the disgraced general have a leakage problem? gopiscrap Feb 2017 #8
Petraeus is still under probation for his conviction BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #11
I can understand Harward's hesitancy. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #2
Pled down to a misdemeanor fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #4
I bet trump would pardon him to get him off of probation gopiscrap Feb 2017 #9
Yes, those around Trump are in grave danger of Hortensis Feb 2017 #26
He could want concessions from Trump DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #3
That's a very interesting leftynyc Feb 2017 #13
Admiral Harwood has HONOR. Something Bohunk68 Feb 2017 #27
Get Trump't C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #5
After that Cpt. Queeg presser today, he knows what a clusterfuck he'd be walking into. catbyte Feb 2017 #7
Right. And if there was some catastrophe, his name would be associated with it forever. raccoon Feb 2017 #29
former Navy vet refuses to jump on sinking ship. rurallib Feb 2017 #10
Just got it on my phone: Washington Post has this, too. calimary Feb 2017 #12
Ain't touching that shite.....nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #14
CBS link Bradical79 Feb 2017 #15
another one who bora13 Feb 2017 #16
Sounds like common problem for Trump: Bradical79 Feb 2017 #17
Told drumpf he had to able to able clean out the NSC mobeau69 Feb 2017 #18
Good on 'ya, Mr. Harward. roamer65 Feb 2017 #19
But, but, but... Bayard Feb 2017 #20
Good for him Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2017 #21
Tapper tweeted that a friend of Harward's commented that he called the offer a "shit sandwich." LuckyLib Feb 2017 #22
Why would any one with ethics, morals, principal and love for their country Greywing Feb 2017 #23
Even a Navy Seal knows these waters are too dangerous. southerncrone Feb 2017 #24
Apparently he told his friends the job was a "sh*t sandwich." nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #25
From the BBC nitpicker Feb 2017 #28

gopiscrap

(23,759 posts)
8. didn't the disgraced general have a leakage problem?
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:47 PM
Feb 2017

and will his probation officer let him accept the position?

BumRushDaShow

(128,936 posts)
11. Petraeus is still under probation for his conviction
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:49 PM
Feb 2017
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/23/politics/david-petraeus-sentencing/

I can't see how they can suddenly give him a clearance again. But then the times they are a-changing.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
2. I can understand Harward's hesitancy.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:18 PM
Feb 2017

It could damage his career and reputation. If anything goes wrong, they'll hang him out to dry. Because the buck stops...over there somewhere. Not with the man at the top.

Hope it's not Petraeus, who has leaked classified information to his mistress. Was he convicted of that, or was it a plea deal...or ...I don't remember.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
26. Yes, those around Trump are in grave danger of
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 03:36 AM
Feb 2017

having to resign in disgrace and even go to prison. For their own crimes. Flynn certainly knew having policy discussions with the Russians as a civilian was illegal; "just following orders" is not an excuse.

Btw, remember that President Nixon was allowed to resign instead of being prosecuted and sentenced to prison for his crimes. People around him who went to prison, and/or were otherwise ruined, did so for theirs.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
3. He could want concessions from Trump
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:22 PM
Feb 2017

It was reported Harward would "clean house" at the NSC. That would mean guys like Bannon would be out.
What if Harward wants a commitment from Trump that he'll be ok with said "house cleaning" and can only get that by playing hard to get?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
13. That's a very interesting
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 08:12 PM
Feb 2017

theory and one I wouldn't have considered. I just assumed he didn't want to tarnish his reputation working for a lunatic. I'm VERY surprised a military man turned down a request to serve coming from the president.

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
27. Admiral Harwood has HONOR. Something
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 05:39 AM
Feb 2017

Herr PutinFluffer and his fluffers do not have or even understand.

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
29. Right. And if there was some catastrophe, his name would be associated with it forever.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 06:18 AM
Feb 2017

Or so you'd think. But Condi Rice wasn't held accountable in any way for 9/11.
Not that I'm aware of.

calimary

(81,238 posts)
12. Just got it on my phone: Washington Post has this, too.
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 07:58 PM
Feb 2017

"...turns down offer, people familiar with decision say..."

One thing I did a few weeks ago in honor of the "failing Washington Post and New York Times" was to get myself a digital subscription!

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
17. Sounds like common problem for Trump:
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 08:25 PM
Feb 2017
https://mobile.twitter.com/Carter_PE/status/832368451935158272

"FWIW I'm hearing of similar offers/refusals up and down the chain, down to DAS and Sched C level in DoD and elsewhere "

mobeau69

(11,144 posts)
18. Told drumpf he had to able to able clean out the NSC
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 08:28 PM
Feb 2017

Bye Bye Bannon would be the price for Harward. Bannon informed orange mess there was no way.

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
20. But, but, but...
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 08:54 PM
Feb 2017

"This administration is running like a well-oiled machine"! Why would he not want to jump right in?

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
23. Why would any one with ethics, morals, principal and love for their country
Thu Feb 16, 2017, 09:30 PM
Feb 2017

serve in this administration?

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
24. Even a Navy Seal knows these waters are too dangerous.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:33 AM
Feb 2017

There will be no survivors. It will be interesting to see how many of Drumph's picks end up "fired" or disgraced, or both.

nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
28. From the BBC
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 06:13 AM
Feb 2017
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39000389

(snip)
US President Donald Trump's choice for national security adviser has turned down the job offer. Retired Vice-Admiral Robert Harward was widely tipped for the post after Mr Trump fired Michael Flynn on Monday. A White House official said Mr Harward cited family and financial commitments, but US media said the sticking point was he wanted to bring in his own team.
(snip)
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