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Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:02 PM

White House Denies Trump Will Call Up National Guard for Immigrant Roundup

Source: Bloomberg

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer denied a report by the Associated Press that President Donald Trump was considering using the National Guard to round up undocumented immigrants.

"That is 100 percent not true. It is false," Spicer told reporters aboard Air Force One, calling the APs report that Trump may call up as many as 100,000 troops "irresponsible."

Spicer said he had no information about the origin of the report.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-17/spicer-denies-trump-will-call-up-guard-for-immigrant-roundup?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics



IMO, this was a setup to discredit the media and panic our Latino population, folks.


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"AP reporter noted they asked multiple times before publication"
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Sean Spicer tells press pool that AP report on National Guard being used to round up people in the U.S. illegally is "100% not true."
https://mobile.twitter.com/NatashaBertrand/status/832617494338605059

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Reply White House Denies Trump Will Call Up National Guard for Immigrant Roundup (Original post)
herding cats Feb 17 OP
KittyWampus Feb 17 #1
dalton99a Feb 17 #5
GusBob Feb 17 #6
Maeve Feb 17 #2
George II Feb 17 #3
Sunlei Feb 17 #15
atreides1 Feb 17 #16
mahatmakanejeeves Feb 17 #4
OKNancy Feb 17 #7
herding cats Feb 17 #11
OKNancy Feb 17 #13
herding cats Feb 17 #14
Sunlei Feb 17 #8
Blue Idaho Feb 17 #9
Sunlei Feb 17 #19
CincyDem Feb 17 #10
riversedge Feb 17 #12
olegramps Feb 17 #17
rdking647 Feb 17 #18
Oneironaut Feb 17 #20
sakabatou Feb 17 #21
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 17 #22
0rganism Feb 17 #23
ailsagirl Feb 17 #24

Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:04 PM

1. Another DU'er posited that Bannon feds false news stories. I guess we'll find out.

 

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:08 PM

5. Bannon may be trying to identify a leaker in the WH.

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Response to KittyWampus (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:08 PM

6. something smells about this

The AP NG story came out and like 5-10 minutes later a denial

Either a story planted to make the press look bad or catch leakers?

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:05 PM

2. This is a serious problem--we have no idea what is true

And what is fake when it comes out of the White House. They have sent us down a rabbit hole that may in fact contain rattlesnakes...and I suspect they don't reall know, either!

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:07 PM

3. That can't happen. It's unconstitutional. There are severe limitations on the executive branch...

...using the US military domestically.

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Response to George II (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:41 PM

15. The state (s) just used NG to kick out/ arrest hundreds of one camp of pipeline protesters... now

because the camp was forced out, state claims they want millions more in federal funds to "clean up".

These Republicans are responsible for THEIR President, his crazy rants and his unfit admin.

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Response to George II (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:55 PM

16. Some limitations aren't that severe!

The National Defense Authorization Act 2008 Pub.L. 110-181
Repeals provisions in section 1076 in Pub.L. 109-364 but still enables the President to call up the National Guard of the United States for active federal military service during Congressionally sanctioned national emergency or war. Places the National Guard Bureau directly under the Department of Defense as a joint activity.

The magic words, being "Congressionally sanctioned national emergency"! If he can get Republicans, the majority, to sanction a "national emergency", control of the National Guard falls under the Defense Department!

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:07 PM

4. But thanks for the swell idea! NT

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:09 PM

7. Draft memo

The AP report seems true. What is not true is how some ran away with the story and made it seems like policy

Here is the AP article: https://apnews.com/5508111d59554a33be8001bdac4ef830?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:19 PM

11. Reading that it may have been intended as a follow up to the EO.

The memo is addressed to the then-acting heads of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and U.S. Customs and Border Protection. It would serve as guidance to implement the wide-ranging executive order on immigration and border security that President Donald Trump signed Jan. 25. Such memos are routinely issued to supplement executive orders.

Also dated Jan. 25, the draft memo says participating troops would be authorized "to perform the functions of an immigration officer in relation to the investigation, apprehension and detention of aliens in the United States." It describes how the troops would be activated under a revived state-federal partnership program, and states that personnel would be authorized to conduct searches and identify and arrest any unauthorized immigrants.


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Response to herding cats (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:21 PM

13. You are probably correct.

I am disgusted by the whole shit sandwich in the White House. I need to take breaks to keep my blood pressure under control.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:25 PM

14. That's smart of you. I about to check out for a few days and recharge myself.

It's not healthy the way we're bombarded daily under Trump.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:13 PM

8. the REPUBLICANS EO said all LOCAL police are deputized as immigration agents, so yes if you open the

door to your local police or get pulled over for ANYTHING, they are 'ordered' to check your 'papers'. And they are.

not exact quote from the EO but its on the white house records for anyone to read. and its put through the national record for anyone to read for themselves.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:13 PM

9. Spicer does not speak for President Bannon

It's obvious from the brief time the lunatic Trump has been in the White House that people like Spicer of Conway do not speak for the President and have no idea what Bannon is planning.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:21 PM

19. Spicer is supposed to give the press the facts of the Admins policies, answer the questions.

Those answers to the press questions are permanent record for our government. Such a contrast between the last president and this Republican slob.

I don't understand why Republicans with experience allow their president & his Admin. to fuck up everything so badly. Especially the criminals who attacked our democracy, why do Republicans with experience allow COVER UP for those crimes to continue?


I'm happy President Obama and family enjoy a well deserved rest. I wish sometimes soon he has a press conference and answers a few questions about his opinion about our governments current position. Like in his opinion, what's going on with transition progress, these CONSTANT attacks on free press media and the Russian crimes, who colluded with Republicans primary and Republicans from 2015s 'dinner in russia' by Flynn, Jill Stein and that list of generals someone fed to t(R)ump campaign.

Its time for President Obama to give our free press a presser, we need his opinion about todays WH.

The last goodbye



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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:16 PM

10. This denial has as much credibility as concluding no Russian involvement because...



...the Kremlin told us so.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:21 PM

12. Here is the AP story--but this one has Spicy's denial: Trump weighs mobilizing Nat Guard for immigr

I do not know if there was an earlier AP story--this one does not say 'updated'

Actually has some details about the 11page Doc from WH issued Jan 25






Feb 17, 11:03 AM EST

Trump weighs mobilizing Nat Guard for immigration roundups

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TRUMP_NATIONAL_GUARD?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

By GARANCE BURKE

Associated Press





The Trump administration is considering a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.

The 11-page document calls for the unprecedented militarization of immigration enforcement as far north as Portland, Oregon, and as far east as New Orleans, Louisiana........................


White House spokesman Sean Spicer said the AP report was "100 percent not true" and "irresponsible." ''There is no effort at all to utilize the National Guard to round up unauthorized immigrants," he said.

Governors in the 11 states would have a choice whether to have their guard troops participate, according to the memo, written by U.S. Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, a retired four-star Marine general.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 12:58 PM

17. Sean(Goebels) Spicer lastest lies.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 01:10 PM

18. im pretty sure it cant be done

the posse comitatus act bars the federal govenrment from using the military to enforce domestic laws.
If congress tried to authorize it they would need 60 votes to approve it and theres no chance of that happening



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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:40 PM

20. Trump legitimized fake news. Now it's coming back to bite him.

Remember when Hillary was dying, having people killed, involved in a pedophile ring using pizza terms as code words, etc.? You can't have it both ways - the genie is out of the bottle. These scam artists were ignored before, but now, being a hysteria-fueling sham artist is very profitable.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:50 PM

22. tRump's "fine tuned machine" would not respond to multiple requests for confirmation/denial.

"fine tuned" amateurs in the White House.

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 02:55 PM

23. "don't run we are your friends"

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Response to herding cats (Original post)

Fri Feb 17, 2017, 05:50 PM

24. It sounds just like something he'd do

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