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highplainsdem

(49,004 posts)
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 08:40 PM Feb 2017

Scarborough: Only a 'fake president' would call press the enemy

Source: The Hill

MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough on Friday blasted President Trump's tweet about the media, calling the the commander-in-chief a "fake president" for attacking the press.

"Only a FAKE PRESIDENT would declare the First Amendment to be the enemy of the American people," Scarborough tweeted.

Only a FAKE PRESIDENT would declare the First Amendment to be the enemy of the American people. https://t.co/ZFZvlTf8Az
— Joe Scarborough (@JoeNBC) February 17, 2017


Minutes earlier, Trump berated the "fake news media," tweeting that the press "is the enemy of the American People."

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Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/320180-scarborough-only-a-fake-president-would-call-first-amendment-the
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Scarborough: Only a 'fake president' would call press the enemy (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2017 OP
WTG JOE!! Peacetrain Feb 2017 #1
Woah... Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #2
Either conscience tavernier Feb 2017 #3
CYA Missn-Hitch Feb 2017 #9
CYA? chillfactor Feb 2017 #29
Cover Your Ass. Volaris Feb 2017 #35
On twitter, the media is melting down over the, media america's enemy tweet dewsgirl Feb 2017 #6
He is full of shit.. coco22 Feb 2017 #18
He's looking for the next meme to boost his ratings. It's about naked opportunism. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #52
Morning Joke must be shifting gears Dopers_Greed Feb 2017 #4
he works for the GOP starshine00 Feb 2017 #20
thank you Skittles Feb 2017 #32
That's it. They're setting up for Pence. yardwork Feb 2017 #36
Exactly. Conflict means viewers. This is just a Morning Joe plot twist. Midnight Writer Feb 2017 #38
Note to Trump: Don't pick on guys who have a bigger bully pulpit than you do. Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #5
The press is the enemy if it lies all the time bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #7
I'm sure he's doing all this on Putins advice starshine00 Feb 2017 #21
The intelligence community is pissed off at the Apricot Asshole meow2u3 Feb 2017 #25
continues to be starshine00 Feb 2017 #34
Joe you are Rebl2 Feb 2017 #8
Hear, hear!! Missn-Hitch Feb 2017 #10
If he has an oar to row BBG Feb 2017 #30
Yes.All the media went after Hillary &gave trump billions$$$ airtime. If they tell truth now... Alice11111 Feb 2017 #53
Joe Scarborough and friends are just as culpable in making him President. So just STFU Joe. YOHABLO Feb 2017 #11
Don't trust the Dead Intern guy nor his side kick.....it's show and blow KewlKat Feb 2017 #12
Why would a guy like Joe do a complete 180? Mr. Ected Feb 2017 #13
Maybe.. now according to David Frum there is.. Cha Feb 2017 #42
Why ? Because his ratings have gone down the toilet. Scumborough likes to run with the hare and OnDoutside Feb 2017 #44
Joe will now be on the enemies list kimbutgar Feb 2017 #14
The damage he did do helped bring this guy to the presidency. NOW he complains? CTyankee Feb 2017 #55
Scarborough is human just like the rest of us. PatrickforO Feb 2017 #15
Well said, PatrickforO. I'm hopeful that the less aware contingent of voters will begin to see the JudyM Feb 2017 #19
sorry, no Skittles Feb 2017 #33
+1 Exactly to the point. OnDoutside Feb 2017 #45
Well, we are a divided people. That is for sure. PatrickforO Feb 2017 #49
Joe may be "genuinely horrified" Skittles Feb 2017 #51
Indeed. I suspect the many Republicans who are now experiencing PatrickforO Feb 2017 #54
Human need over human greed. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #47
Ink by the barrel. truthisfreedom Feb 2017 #16
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #17
Their ratings must have tanked BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #22
Says a fake reporter. Renew Deal Feb 2017 #23
Bingo! dalton99a Feb 2017 #26
Yep. But I'm still glad he said it, cuz lots of cons love JoeScar and Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #48
the Press knew it was going to be a circus, that is why they did all they could elmac Feb 2017 #24
Too little too late. And only because HE's enjoying feeling persecuted. 50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2017 #27
What a bunch of BS. Joe and Mika were Trump sycophants all during Fla Dem Feb 2017 #28
Thank you Joe! Kimchijeon Feb 2017 #31
media blackout bora13 Feb 2017 #37
the way he attacked the bbc. ffs. mopinko Feb 2017 #39
Are you feeling used, Joe? Did you wake up the next morning and realized he never loved you at all? Hekate Feb 2017 #40
What happened to the trumpimp joe? Cha Feb 2017 #41
Anybody else getting tired of the word "fake" as a prefix? jetcat Feb 2017 #43
Trumps retweets Vladimir Lenin Progressive dog Feb 2017 #46
tweeted "Fake President" for months now. .fake news created by republicans for their fake president. Sunlei Feb 2017 #50

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
35. Cover Your Ass.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:03 PM
Feb 2017

He's making sure he's not blamed for enabling this monstrosity of parody later when it's time to rightly assign blame to CONServatives.

coco22

(1,258 posts)
18. He is full of shit..
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:45 PM
Feb 2017

He knows what is in those confidential reports. Scar is trying to distance himself from Trump watch him start hyping Pence.

No matter what Trump does he will find away to blame Obama,Clintons,Carter and tries to say they were as bad as Trump,all the while skipping Reagan and Ollie North and the Iran Contra scandal.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
4. Morning Joke must be shifting gears
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 08:48 PM
Feb 2017

His show couldn't pull off the ratings when he was Herr Dumpf's lapdog, so he's trying a new approach

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
20. he works for the GOP
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:46 PM
Feb 2017

and when I hear of him saying stuff like this I assume it is because his GOP owners authorized it.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
5. Note to Trump: Don't pick on guys who have a bigger bully pulpit than you do.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 08:52 PM
Feb 2017

This fixation that Trump has on the press is unAmerican and undemocratic. It's one of the few way the public gets information that the politicians don't want us to know.

He is attacking our democracy when he attacks the free press.

It is JUST like the SNL Alec Baldwin debate skit, when Tom Hanks as Anderson Cooper asks Trump (Baldwin) how the press is unfair to him.

Trump (Baldwin) says, "They take everything I say and everything I do, and put it on television."

bucolic_frolic

(43,190 posts)
7. The press is the enemy if it lies all the time
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 08:54 PM
Feb 2017

but Trump is at war with the side of the press that tells the truth

So a finer distinction must be drawn between various elements of the press

This simple idea Trump is peddling that they're all the same is a false choice

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
21. I'm sure he's doing all this on Putins advice
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:48 PM
Feb 2017

but Russia doesn't have separation of powers or a free press and the US generally doesn't disappear people at the rate that Russia does when they step out of line, i.e. that shit is not going to fly over here because there is no KGB type org (sorry I can't remember what they are called now) to enforce it

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
25. The intelligence community is pissed off at the Apricot Asshole
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:31 PM
Feb 2017

so I guess the CIA won't be doing his bidding any time soon. Also, his private security couldn't hold a candle to the CIA.

 

starshine00

(531 posts)
34. continues to be
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 11:02 PM
Feb 2017

I swear it is as if he thinks he IS Putin...he keeps pissing off the press and the CIA both, repeatedly, two entities which can ruin him...he is incredibly delusional about how much power he wields. (Though I did just spend a few minutes on twitter reading the most amazing tweets from his MAGAuthoritarians, they literally lap up everything that comes out of his mouth as gospel...he seems to have provided for them the big bad Daddy figure they have always craved in life or something, it is positively scary.

Rebl2

(13,523 posts)
8. Joe you are
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 08:55 PM
Feb 2017

a little late with your fake disgust of the orange menace. You and your crew helped get it elected.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
53. Yes.All the media went after Hillary &gave trump billions$$$ airtime. If they tell truth now...
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 04:08 PM
Feb 2017

...better now than never

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
12. Don't trust the Dead Intern guy nor his side kick.....it's show and blow
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:18 PM
Feb 2017

He did something similar during the campaign, but then we all found out he had been in contact with the Con throughout the campaign.....remember how he and Mika had a meeting at the towers.....no, don't be sucked in to his "fake" rage........he's still slime and so is she.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
13. Why would a guy like Joe do a complete 180?
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:19 PM
Feb 2017

Could it be that a huge and damning revelation about Trump is about to hit the airwaves, and some media have decided to take cover immediately?

Oh I sure wish.

OnDoutside

(19,962 posts)
44. Why ? Because his ratings have gone down the toilet. Scumborough likes to run with the hare and
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:57 AM
Feb 2017

hunt with the hounds. He is your typical amoral rattlesnake Republican.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
55. The damage he did do helped bring this guy to the presidency. NOW he complains?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:36 PM
Feb 2017

We Dems were all screaming this would be the outcome, but Joe continued to have that asshole on his show and give him a big, fat, free platform to spew his racist, sexist POS.

Stuff it, Joe.

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
15. Scarborough is human just like the rest of us.
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:36 PM
Feb 2017

I believe he had some hope that Trump might change things, but to his credit he also changed his mind when it became apparent that the electoral college elected a madman.

This gives us some insight into where he is coming from. Scarborough is an old-school guy who genuinely believes in market solutions, and has, as many of these free-market people, downplayed the excesses inherent in capitalism.

However, when these people yell 'deregulate, privatize and gut social programs' long enough to where it begins happening, then they don't like the result too very much.

This is the thing I've always said about the libertarians. Their philosophy is quite seductive until it is you who are down and they look on and let you suffer and die, because hey, that's your right. And the capitalistic meme that we all must pull ourselves up by our bootstraps is just as bad because if we aren't rich, then we experience that self-doubt that we somehow 'didn't work hard enough,' and the disgust with ourselves and others for making this such a dog-eat-dog culture.

Spiritually and economically, there is no doubt in my mind that we would be better if we could as a species figure out how to organize ourselves around human need instead of human greed.

Boy, LOL, I sure got off on a tangent there.

JudyM

(29,251 posts)
19. Well said, PatrickforO. I'm hopeful that the less aware contingent of voters will begin to see the
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:45 PM
Feb 2017

stark differences between Ds and Rs over the next couple of years. If McConnell gets/guts everything he wants there may be a silver lining. More than anything, we need to start communicating in pithy sound bites to get our positions across.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
33. sorry, no
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:57 PM
Feb 2017

you'd have to be dumb as dirt to think Trump would be beneficial in ANY way

Joe is a republican whore who sees which way the wind is blowing

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
49. Well, we are a divided people. That is for sure.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:43 PM
Feb 2017

And it is true, from the angle you seem to be coming, that there is a 'right wing crazy' element we're just going to have to roll over. But the rest? The independents? The people who tend to vote R because they don't know any better?

And YES, Joe Scarborough is in fact human. So is McConnell, Ryan and the rest. When, we must wonder, will they look at what they are doing, and have been doing, in growing horror? Or will they ever?

Ideologues, left or right, are hard core in that they will cheerfully allow people to die, or even kill, for that ideology. Those more toward the middle of the bell curve, on either side of the mean, are the ones who can bring about the reforms we need, and perhaps even get us to the point where we are thinking for the welfare of the species instead of narrow political parties.

When I think of the unfolding horrors of the Trump administration, the Gestapo-like tactics of ICE, Bannon who wants to run us all like a juggernaut of death toward some 'christian' apocalypse, I think about those who can stop them.

Sadly, they feel about us EXACTLY as you feel about them. So, pragmatists from both sides, particularly those who are nominally Rs, must be the ones to point out the emperor has no clothes. I said what I said about Scarborough because I'm thinking about people a few decades earlier. Consider Oskar Schindler - basically a mediocre gold-digger type man who moved to Poland in the wake of the Nazi invasion to make his fortune as a war profiteer. Yet, today a tree in Israel's Avenue of the Righteous bears Schindler's name. The generations of those he saved from death in the camps are more numerous today than the Jewish population of Poland.

Consider Hermann Goering's brother Albert, who once joined a group of Jewish women ordered by SS to scrub the streets. When the Nazi officers discovered who he was, they stopped that activity. Albert saved people and steadfastly stood against the Nazi regime. Yet he was little more than a bon vivant playboy until the Nazis came to power.

Or even Colonel Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg, who, in spite of his early support of Hitler, and even his oath, tried to end the Nazi horror in 1944 at the Wolf's Lair. He changed his mind. He turned out not to be a Nazi whore.

Perhaps Scarborough has a different motive than just 'seeing which way the wind is blowing.' Maybe he is genuinely horrified. I certainly am.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
51. Joe may be "genuinely horrified"
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 03:57 PM
Feb 2017

but I certainly hope PART of his horror is realizing that by pimping for that orange piece of shit, he very much helped pave the way for the horrors to come

PatrickforO

(14,578 posts)
54. Indeed. I suspect the many Republicans who are now experiencing
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 05:25 PM
Feb 2017

'buyers remorse' have those same feelings of regret.

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(129,113 posts)
22. Their ratings must have tanked
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 09:52 PM
Feb 2017

and they are trying to get viewers back who would want to determine if he really means it.

That show was complicit in nurturing and promoting him, resulting in him getting elected by allowing unfettered bullshit to be spewed for 3 hours every morning.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,769 posts)
48. Yep. But I'm still glad he said it, cuz lots of cons love JoeScar and
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 02:00 PM
Feb 2017

some people will be led to reconsider their Trump support.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
24. the Press knew it was going to be a circus, that is why they did all they could
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:19 PM
Feb 2017

to get him elected, profits, viewers are through the roof.

Fla Dem

(23,691 posts)
28. What a bunch of BS. Joe and Mika were Trump sycophants all during
Fri Feb 17, 2017, 10:43 PM
Feb 2017

the elections. They helped create him. Now they want off the garbage truck. But sorry you 2, the stench is all over you.

bora13

(860 posts)
37. media blackout
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 12:24 AM
Feb 2017

this sounds bad but if the media outlets stayed silent about t-rump for a week,
maybe it could be then proven even to the easily misled that it's really him that is the enemy.

mopinko

(70,132 posts)
39. the way he attacked the bbc. ffs.
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 01:09 AM
Feb 2017

isnt that the one that he said- bbc? oh, yeah, i know you.
i heard my demented mil's voice in my head just then.

jetcat

(37 posts)
43. Anybody else getting tired of the word "fake" as a prefix?
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 08:30 AM
Feb 2017

I think it's damaging our discourse. We're dealing with a real president here, who is real threat. Nothing fake about it. Trump's constant use of "fake" to refer to real news is pushing empiricism into the rabbit hole, and we're just following on down when we adopt that same, frankly juvenile, adjective.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
46. Trumps retweets Vladimir Lenin
Sat Feb 18, 2017, 10:56 AM
Feb 2017

According to Wikipedia:

The term enemy of the people is a fluid designation of political or class opponents of the group ... that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917

Bannon is a Leninist and Trump had help from a new murdering authoritarian from Russia. Coincidence?
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