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Mon Mar 20, 2017, 08:41 AM

Former Law Student: Gorsuch Told Class Women 'Manipulate' Maternal Leave

Source: NPR




March 20, 201712:15 AM ET

ARNIE SEIPEL and NINA TOTENBERG

A former law student of Judge Neil Gorsuch, President Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court, alleges that in a course she took from Gorsuch at the University of Colorado Law School last year, the judge told his class that employers, specifically law firms, should ask women seeking jobs about their plans for having children and implied that women manipulate companies starting in the interview stage to extract maternity benefits.

The concerns were shared in a letter, posted Sunday evening by the National Employment Lawyers Association and the National Women's Law Center, written by Jennifer Sisk, a 2016 graduate of the University of Colorado Law School. It was sent on Friday to the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Ranking Member Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

In an interview with NPR, Sisk says she wrote the letter "so that the proper questions could be asked during his confirmation hearings," which begin Monday before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Other students in the class have not come forward publicly.

On April 19, 2016, Sisk wrote, Judge Gorsuch used a hypothetical from the prepared material for the class, in which a female law student applies for jobs at law firms because the student has a large debt to pay off. The student also intends to have a family with her husband.

Read more: http://www.npr.org/2017/03/20/520743555/former-law-student-gorsuch-told-class-women-manipulate-maternal-leave

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Reply Former Law Student: Gorsuch Told Class Women 'Manipulate' Maternal Leave (Original post)
DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
Mc Mike Mar 2017 #1
Solly Mack Mar 2017 #2
JudyM Mar 2017 #3
JudyM Mar 2017 #17
IronLionZion Mar 2017 #4
Javaman Mar 2017 #5
msanthrope Mar 2017 #6
DK504 Mar 2017 #7
Ilsa Mar 2017 #8
MosheFeingold Mar 2017 #9
Ellen Forradalom Mar 2017 #11
MosheFeingold Mar 2017 #15
Yupster Mar 2017 #19
MosheFeingold Mar 2017 #20
UpInArms Mar 2017 #10
milestogo Mar 2017 #12
Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #13
Hortensis Mar 2017 #14
Hekate Mar 2017 #16
Little Tich Mar 2017 #18

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 08:56 AM

1. He's a Coors foundation repuglinazi bircher, just like his mum. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:13 AM

2. Asswipe.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:23 AM

3. More people need to call our senators to oppose him, 2O2-224-3121

Nothing is more important right now!

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Response to JudyM (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 03:49 PM

17. K&R here's another article -- research shows he's more conservative than Scalia!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:47 AM

4. The next Supreme Court Justice better be Merrick Garland or nothing

leave it open until they have a vote on Garland.

No more of these misogynistic right wing assholes. I know several men who have taken paternity leave. My boss is on maternity leave right now. I don't think having a baby and caring for it is manipulative.

Breitbart routinely publishes opinion pieces saying we are wasting resources on educating and hiring women because we as a country lose money when they have babies. It's idiotic.



On a related note, there are more vasectomies during March madness.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:59 AM

5. what a colossal jackass. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:01 AM

6. Holy Shit!!!!! nt

 

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:18 AM

7. Should these same firms get ready for males to want time off to spend with their baby.

That POS seems to forget that woman can work even up to the 9th month. It's not like delays from law firms are unexcepted, these guys take years to even get to a table to deal with what ever is going on. No one will notice on damn thing.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:20 AM

8. But they want (anglo) women to keep pushing out babies, but

not if we want a career to help pay the bills and give us a professional life.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:43 AM

9. Many employees manipulate leave

This is not a mystery. Many people abuse systems, especially paid leave. Many do not. Women are not unique in this regard.

The gaming of paid-time-off I saw when I worked as a staffer were amazing. Fake doctor notes on letterhead from a doctor that knew nothing about it was SOP. If people put half as much time into their jobs as they did figuring out how not to do their jobs we'd have run at 150% efficiency.

His mistake was limiting the comment to women.

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Response to MosheFeingold (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:47 AM

11. It's no 'mistake'

It's specifically misogyny.

The point of the OP is that Gorsuch tapped into a deep line of prejudice that women are liars and manipulators, whereas men simply accept their due.

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Response to Ellen Forradalom (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 12:12 PM

15. I don't disagree

My "mistake" comment was he made a "tactical" mistake. Phrasing poor, sorry.

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Response to MosheFeingold (Reply #9)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 10:54 AM

19. I don't even see it as manipulating

Most people look at the rules and the law and they do what's in their best interest but what's legal and within the rules.

You see that every time a person wants to retire. They see how many sick days or vacation days they have saved up, add up those days and then stop coming to work once those days get them to their retirement date. Often it's so up front everyone is aware of the person's retirement date and the other last day of work date.

Is it manipulating? Just seems like reading the rules and complying with them to your best interests.

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Response to Yupster (Reply #19)

Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:25 AM

20. I guess I was/am a workaholic

When getting paid, I gave 100% and didn't take sick days unless I was unable to move out of bed.

Heck, I seldom took my vacations if there was work to be done. Pretty much just the required religious holidays were non-negotiable to me.

Of course, I had a very rewarding job, and worked for the American people. So it's a different situation. I couldn't wait to get to work, came back to work after mandatory retirement, and left about 150 vacation days unused at the end of my career.

I'm also in my 90s, so it's a different generation. Heck, I just got re-admitted to the bar and am working as a public defender for free. I just like working.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:44 AM

10. I bet his momma is so proud that she gave birth

to this piece of shit

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:54 AM

12. I suppose its ok for men to have families and pay off their student loans

while working as lawyers.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 11:59 AM

13. Those damn women having babies so that the human race can continue. What a waste of time and money!

Seems like he forgot the only reason he exists is because he was birthed by a woman. Men need to respect that and shut the hell up.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 12:03 PM

14. Men inquire, women manipulate. NOT a good sign.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 01:23 PM

16. Bingo

Gorsuch is just another misogynistic ahole. What a surprise.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 20, 2017, 10:18 PM

18. It's easy to imagine that in a world where the men got pregnant - these things would never be said.

Gorsuch seems to be a misogynistic troglodyte that should never become a Supreme Court Judge. And he's an originalist too.

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