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Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:05 PM

At least 12 dead in Texas church bus crash, police say

Source: ABC News

At least 12 dead in Texas church bus crash, police say

By MICHAEL EDISON HAYDEN WHITNEY LLOYD Mar 29, 2017, 6:30 PM ET

At least 12 people died on Wednesday in a head-on collision between a church bus and a pickup truck in Concan, Texas, officials said.

At least three other people are injured in the accident, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety.

DPS said that the bus was carrying congregants from the First Baptist Church in New Braunfels, Texas at a little after noon, when the accident occurred.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/multiple-fatalities-texas-church-bus-crash-police/story?id=46455949&cid=clicksource_4380645_1_hero_headlines_headlines_hed

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Reply At least 12 dead in Texas church bus crash, police say (Original post)
Chicago1980 Mar 2017 OP
Skittles Mar 2017 #1
MrScorpio Mar 2017 #6
Skittles Mar 2017 #7
LeftInTX Mar 2017 #10
Skittles Mar 2017 #13
CurtEastPoint Mar 2017 #2
LeftInTX Mar 2017 #3
jmowreader Apr 2017 #14
christx30 Apr 2017 #17
Archae Mar 2017 #4
AngryAmish Mar 2017 #8
LanternWaste Mar 2017 #11
yellowcanine Mar 2017 #12
Initech Apr 2017 #15
GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #5
nitpicker Mar 2017 #9
Baclava Apr 2017 #16

Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:09 PM

1. very tragic

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:36 PM

6. My feelings exactly

My deepest condolences to the victims' friends, family and fellow parishioners.

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Response to MrScorpio (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 01:51 AM

7. it is 13 casualties now

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Response to Skittles (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:48 AM

10. How sad about those boys

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #10)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:45 PM

13. brothers

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:05 PM

2. These church buses seem disproportionately accident prone. Poor driver?

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:35 PM

3. I think it was the pick-up driver

They tend to drive reckless around here. It was a head-on collision. The bus was pushed up against the guardrail and the truck was in the bus's lane. Double yellow line.

"An area resident told the Uvalde Leader-News that she was behind one of the vehicles involved in the crash and called to report reckless driving before the crash occurred."

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 1, 2017, 02:19 PM

14. It's definitely the fault of the pickup driver

By now you've seen it but I want to add it to this thread: the 20-year-old pickup driver was texting and driving.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 1, 2017, 04:48 PM

17. To people that complain about texting-and-driving laws

this is the result of not following them. People die. Texting is almost more dangerous drinking and driving. It's friggin' stupid to do. I don't even like the radio when I'm driving. I tune out my wife, the radio, and the kids when I'm driving. When you're driving, you have one job. Get that 2000+ pound death machine to your destination with yourself and your passengers alive.
I don't even take a sip of beer when I'm at dinner if I have to drive. I'm boring as hell, but I'm 41 years old, and I haven't been in an accident since I started driving, and that's way more important.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:37 PM

4. All too often they are old and "retired" from hauling around schoolkids.

So they are old and sometimes dangerously worn out or badly maintained, not to mention old unsafe equipment.

The bus in this accident looks a lot newer, one of those small van/buses.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 05:07 AM

8. The old extended vans of Ford and Chrysler were prone to rollover crashes

 

Known defect. They never tried a case, all settled. Should have been recalled years ago. With weight behind axel and leaf springs they would lose the rear end. I don't know if this is the case here though.

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:59 AM

11. What is the ratio and the base?

"These church buses seem disproportionately accident prone...."

What is the ratio and base?

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:42 PM

12. In this case it appears to be the fault of the other driver, not the bus driver.

Look at the position of the vehicles. Truck appears to have crossed the center line. And this account talks about a pick-up driving erratically and veering into the other lane.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/29/us/texas-fatal-church-bus-accident/index.html

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Response to CurtEastPoint (Reply #2)

Sat Apr 1, 2017, 03:58 PM

15. I went to a concert a few weeks ago.

In Long Beach at the Queen Mary. And there's no onsite parking at the Queen Mary. So you have to park at the Long Beach convention center and take a bus. That bus ride was the scariest fucking bus ride I've ever been in. I don't think that they maintain these things very well. I can see these things would accident prone.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:33 PM

5. A huge tragedy

And I wish the families peace.

But what will happen at the funeral is what drove me from religious life...it was Gods will. Even at 8 years of age I used to think WTF. Ok not that exactly as I did not know what that word at 8.

I am confident the church family will give the bereaved comfort. Hopefully we will learn from this and find a way to prevent it in the future.

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Response to Chicago1980 (Original post)

Sat Apr 1, 2017, 04:03 PM

16. Driver of truck that killed 13 in bus crash admits he was texting the whole time

Terrifying new footage shows a truck swerving across a Texas road moments before it plowed into a church bus, killing 13 people.



Witness Jody Kuchler, 55, said he recorded the video while calling authorities in an attempt to get the driver off the road.

The clip shows the White Dodge pickup truck recklessly swerving across the lanes, almost causing several crashes before the deadly incident Wednesday.

Kuchler kept recording for 20 minutes, remaining at a safe distance behind the vehicle, which authorities said was driven by 20-year-old Jack Dillon Young in Uvalde County.

Kuchler recalled on Friday: 'He said, 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was texting.' I said, 'Son, do you know what you just did?' He said, 'I'm sorry. I'm sorry.'


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4370810/Terrifying-video-shows-truck-swerving-bus-crash.html

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