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pstokely

(10,528 posts)
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:22 PM Apr 2017

'Abortion Sanctuary City Zoo'? Missouri senator proposes new name for St. Louis Zoo

Last edited Wed Apr 5, 2017, 11:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: STL Post Dispatch

JEFFERSON CITY • A Missouri state senator is threatening to derail a bid to boost taxes for the St. Louis Zoo because of the city’s decision to ban employers and landlords from discriminating against women who have had an abortion.

Sen. Bob Onder, R-Lake Saint Louis, linked the two issues together during a lengthy debate on the Senate floor Wednesday, saying he’s wary of supporting a push to tax residents in counties surrounding St. Louis when the city has made itself what he calls an “abortion sanctuary city."

Under an amendment filed to the zoo tax proposal, Onder said the zoo should have to change its name to “The Midwest Abortion Sanctuary City Zoological Park.”

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/abortion-sanctuary-city-zoo-missouri-senator-proposes-new-name-for/article_b864c6d4-9af8-515a-9dd2-e3be968a274a.html

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'Abortion Sanctuary City Zoo'? Missouri senator proposes new name for St. Louis Zoo (Original Post) pstokely Apr 2017 OP
Talk about infantile behavior and manipulation. What a baby. You cant caroldansen Apr 2017 #1
Oh! It's "You can't" SCVDem Apr 2017 #24
Republican pangaia Apr 2017 #29
First, how would anyone know if a woman has had an abortion procedure or not? (HIPPA comes to mind) haele Apr 2017 #2
it's HIPAA Skittles Apr 2017 #3
Standing by for an ass-kicking...my fingers sometimes go a bit too fast. haele Apr 2017 #5
hey! Skittles Apr 2017 #9
You know, small point here, but I think the reason that people think it's HIPPA .. Laffy Kat Apr 2017 #31
Dear God....what kind of people LIVE in Lake St. Louis? Ken Burch Apr 2017 #4
white people afraid afraid of the City of St. Louis pstokely Apr 2017 #7
...oh, you mean white people afraid of reality?... Ken Burch Apr 2017 #11
Racist knuckle dragging christocrites Luka Boyd Apr 2017 #18
idiots snooper2 Apr 2017 #36
What the hell? mountain grammy Apr 2017 #6
They have zero problems with invading someone's privacy. milestogo Apr 2017 #23
And they wonder why young professionals are piling up on the coasts. LisaM Apr 2017 #8
In California SCVDem Apr 2017 #25
The guy doesn't seem to realize that this could cause discrimination... Ken Burch Apr 2017 #10
I wouldn't know that man if I saw him but I still detest him. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #12
Good old Misery. Live there. benld74 Apr 2017 #13
And again, area51 Apr 2017 #14
Senator Bob probably stayed up all night, trying to give birth to this stroke of genius. Judi Lynn Apr 2017 #15
He doesn't even look like he bathes. LisaM Apr 2017 #30
Easily worked around, and mwooldri Apr 2017 #16
Just credit where credit is due SCVDem Apr 2017 #26
belongs in the zoo in the Human Loon exhibit lunasun Apr 2017 #17
Renaming the state capitol "The Midwest Fucking Idiot Preserve" would be too obvious jmowreader Apr 2017 #19
I like that! nt Ilsa Apr 2017 #22
So childish! Kimchijeon Apr 2017 #20
Another embarrassment for East Kansas... Moostache Apr 2017 #21
People like this are sick! They really have some severe issues going on in their head and belong RKP5637 Apr 2017 #27
Wth? Lotusflower70 Apr 2017 #28
Let's name a kindergarten "Trump allows Assad to gas civilians Kindergarten" Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #32
The Sen. Onder needs to quit wasting his constituents time and money. YOHABLO Apr 2017 #33
intellectually sound and rational disqualifies you from running as a repuke pstokely Apr 2017 #34
Proceed.... LakeArenal Apr 2017 #35
Big Brother in the house!!!!!!!!! n/t) MissMillie Apr 2017 #37
this is just bizarre niyad Apr 2017 #38
Ah...California just passed a law requiring "pregnancy clinics" that don't have real OB/GYNs - haele Apr 2017 #39

caroldansen

(725 posts)
1. Talk about infantile behavior and manipulation. What a baby. You cant
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:26 PM
Apr 2017

link the two together abortion and zoo. What an idiotic moron. Onder should mosy down yonder and out of politics. We dont need more idiots in office!

haele

(12,650 posts)
2. First, how would anyone know if a woman has had an abortion procedure or not? (HIPPA comes to mind)
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:32 PM
Apr 2017

Second, how would anyone know if any particular abortion procedure was used during pregnancy? Abortion is a series of medical procedures that are also used to save a woman's life or her ability to bear children not only in cases where a pregnancy has gone wrong, but when there's certain types of ovarian abnormalities that need to be removed.

Third, how is it anyone's business whether or not a woman has had an abortion?

There used to be a bunch of anti-choicers who would take pictures of women going into Planned Parenthood and pasting them all over their Facebook portal for like-minded Christianist perverts - claiming that some poor woman going in for a Pap smear or general OBGYN care was going several times a year in "to kill her precious little baybees"...like she was a veritable incarnation of Lillith, or Medea, or someone like that.

If the city of St. Louis had to go to that much trouble to protect women against discrimination "for having an abortion", methinks there's a crapload of lying anti-women's health cultists living in Missouri...and it's about time to blow the lid on those evil liars, and sue the whole bunch of them for the actual harm such fairy tale libel does to a community.

One can have free speech, but the price for free speech is you must take responsibility for it...

Haele

haele

(12,650 posts)
5. Standing by for an ass-kicking...my fingers sometimes go a bit too fast.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:43 PM
Apr 2017

Learned to type on Manual Typewriters and old military radio teletype units back in the day. Plinka-plinka ... ten finger style...

Pseudo-Calvinist-Anti-Choice-head-up-their-asses-'Fraid-of-Women-Snowglobe-seekers are an integral part of the reason we can't have nice things in this country...

Haele

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
31. You know, small point here, but I think the reason that people think it's HIPPA ..
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 11:30 PM
Apr 2017

Instead of HIPAA is HHS's own fault. When they were introducing the new regulations, years ago, the logo was a hippo, a purple hippo. What did they think would happen. That is all.

Luka Boyd

(49 posts)
18. Racist knuckle dragging christocrites
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 08:13 PM
Apr 2017

I was in this town today - I dont know how they find their way home

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
6. What the hell?
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:44 PM
Apr 2017

How does an employer or landlord even find out if a woman has had an abortion? Why is this even an issue?
The article links to another article about the state legislature overriding local ordinances for whatever strange reason. When Colorado passed an amendment to stop localities from passing protections for homosexuals, it was eventually ruled unconstitutional because it singled out a group to discriminate against. This looks very similar.

LisaM

(27,806 posts)
8. And they wonder why young professionals are piling up on the coasts.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 06:47 PM
Apr 2017

Not that I'm all that young anymore, but there are a hell of a lot of places like this that seem to be deliberately inviting people NOT to live there.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
25. In California
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 10:57 PM
Apr 2017

We even welcome our white American refugees!

Please leave attitudes at the borders.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
10. The guy doesn't seem to realize that this could cause discrimination...
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:01 PM
Apr 2017

...against women who once had abortions and then became anti-choice.

Solly Mack

(90,764 posts)
12. I wouldn't know that man if I saw him but I still detest him.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:06 PM
Apr 2017

And everyone like him.

There's no reconciliation possible. No halfway point upon where we both could stand.



area51

(11,908 posts)
14. And again,
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:17 PM
Apr 2017

if it upsets these dbags that life is dying, they should be the strongest voices yelling for single-payer and affordable child care. This is all about putting the "scarlet letter" on women; they don't give a shit about fetuses or babies.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
15. Senator Bob probably stayed up all night, trying to give birth to this stroke of genius.
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:20 PM
Apr 2017

He was probably hailed by the other Republican Senators for his brilliance.

Sad, isn't it?

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Senator Bob, the Einstein of the Missouri Republican Senate cluster mutual entertainment society

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
16. Easily worked around, and
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 07:38 PM
Apr 2017

Zoo can change its name to whatever the heck it wants.

Everyone will still call it St. Louis Zoo.

Like there's this popular fast food chain. The parent company is Doctors' Associates, Inc. Everyone else calls it Subway.

Zoo can easily change its name, and do a company restructuring. It'll create a bit of paperwork for some lawyers, and the zoo does business as usual.

In addition the zoo can have some fun by naming something after him. I suggest a nice reptile.

Edit to add: plus zoo doesn't need state government to approve the naming of an animal. I suggest a Democrat with some means go ahead and adopt the reptile anyway.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
26. Just credit where credit is due
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 11:08 PM
Apr 2017
Abortion Sanctuary City Zoo

Name brought to you by Sen. Bob Onder, R-Lake Saint Louis
Helping to teach your children something new!

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
21. Another embarrassment for East Kansas...
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 09:57 PM
Apr 2017

I loathe this state with a white hot passion...I am fortunate to work for a French owned multinational with a site here in St. Louis - sadly only 15 miles from Lake St. Louis area.

These pseudo-religious freaks piss me off like no other. I wish there WAS a god, so that it could send me to their heaven as nothing could ever be more torturous to me than eternity with fundies....but the joke is on them, because their 'heaven' is by definition my 'hell', meaning I would have a modicum of enjoyment from ruining their happiness for eternity!!

Until then, FUCK YOU Bob, you disgusting human waste.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
27. People like this are sick! They really have some severe issues going on in their head and belong
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 11:08 PM
Apr 2017

no where near a political office.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
28. Wth?
Wed Apr 5, 2017, 11:13 PM
Apr 2017

Seriously? Wow just wow. I hate how they link things that have no relationship whatsoever. This guy is a fucking idiot.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
32. Let's name a kindergarten "Trump allows Assad to gas civilians Kindergarten"
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 12:25 AM
Apr 2017

Because it's something I don't agree with and the kindergarten is in the country it happened in.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
33. The Sen. Onder needs to quit wasting his constituents time and money.
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 03:00 AM
Apr 2017

Why can't we get people who are intellectually sound and rational to run for office?

pstokely

(10,528 posts)
34. intellectually sound and rational disqualifies you from running as a repuke
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 03:37 AM
Apr 2017

you aren't qualified to run as a repuke if you have any intelligence

niyad

(113,284 posts)
38. this is just bizarre
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 02:18 PM
Apr 2017

Onder said there was little difference between him trying to stop the zoo tax and Democrats trying to block the legislation affecting the city’s abortion ordinance.

The measure pending in the Legislature (http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/abortion-restrictions-including--week-abortion-ban-getting-push-from/article_954c84aa-ecec-5c72-bc60-95a81a43b42a.html) would block cities such as St. Louis from enacting laws that would infringe on the free speech and religious rights of alternatives to abortion agencies or facilities that counsel pregnant women against abortion.

haele

(12,650 posts)
39. Ah...California just passed a law requiring "pregnancy clinics" that don't have real OB/GYNs -
Thu Apr 6, 2017, 04:11 PM
Apr 2017

- to post that they are a counseling clinic and are not licensed to dispense medical advice concerning pregnancies (i.e., no "you'll have a higher risk of lady parts cancer if you get an abortion" scare tactics). They also have to clearly post where the patient can find licensed family planning and OB/GYN facilities.
Man, you could have heard the screaming from the pulpits for miles every Sunday for a couple months.

Funny, it's all "First Amendment / Religious Rights" to them, even though the State explicitly informed them the cheapskate Forced-Birther scammers can't legally claim to be medical practitioners unless they have a registered Doctor - or at least a registered PA - on the premises during operational hours.
Once there's a medical complication with one of their "patients" that ends in a lifetime disability or fatality, they'll just fold up shop and try to hide behind their Religion while they set up a scam to prey on fearful women somewhere else. They're as much medical frauds as the back-street abortionists they intend to bring back.

Haele

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