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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:45 AM Apr 2017

Tillerson: Election Meddling Something 'Russia Needs To Confront Themselves'

Source: Talking Points Memo



By ESME CRIBB Published APRIL 9, 2017, 11:10 AM EDT

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson on Sunday suggested that in order to deter further electoral meddling, Russia "needs to confront" its own interference in the 2016 U.S. election as well as upcoming elections in Europe.

"This is something that Russia needs to confront themselves and I think examine carefully as to how this is helping them achieve their longer-term objectives," Tillerson said on ABC's "This Week."

He said the U.S. will "continue to talk with" Russian officials "about how this undermines any hope of improving relations not just with the United States," but suggested self-reflection will be a stronger deterrent than external pressure.

"It's pretty evident that they are taking similar tactics into electoral processes throughout Europe and so they're really undermining any hope for improved relations with many European countries as well," Tillerson said.

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Tillerson: Election Meddling Something 'Russia Needs To Confront Themselves' (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2017 OP
In other words, republicans are going to sit on their fat asses Achilleaze Apr 2017 #1
Even more to the point: Republicans will continue to collude and benefit from Russian interference. KittyWampus Apr 2017 #12
And we basically have an all-but-signed confession that Russia was in on the fix.... lastlib Apr 2017 #24
What in hell's name is the GOP's end game??? What is nirvana for them? diva77 Apr 2017 #45
Wow. Seems Tillerson is off script & taking the meddling as a given. Question left is "How much?" Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2017 #2
Huh? janterry Apr 2017 #3
Tillerson thought his job would be what Rick Perry thought the Department of Energy did Jonny Appleseed Apr 2017 #4
You may well be right Hekate Apr 2017 #31
Can this regime treat us with any greater disrespect? lark Apr 2017 #5
Yes FakeNoose Apr 2017 #38
And this "guy" is in a cabinet position, his he that stupid? turbinetree Apr 2017 #6
Comrade Rex NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #19
Lol. Well that's just STUPID! KPN Apr 2017 #7
Yes, I think this statement ...defines..."STUPID" Stuart G Apr 2017 #40
Corporate fool BeyondGeography Apr 2017 #8
Let's wait for Putin to start the investigation dalton99a Apr 2017 #9
We have a fortune cookie PatSeg Apr 2017 #10
"You sit in the corner and think about what you did, young man." thesquanderer Apr 2017 #11
Realpolitik and diplomacy bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #13
I guess I'm not as negative on these statements as many others are GitRDun Apr 2017 #14
Yes, I agree. He's used to being in a position Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #36
How did he get to be a CEO? Seriously? He can't be this tone-deaf. Tatiana Apr 2017 #15
exactly-- this is seriously just dumb, what a loser Fast Walker 52 Apr 2017 #22
As CEO he never had to speak to press gaggles who peppered him with rude questions... Hekate Apr 2017 #34
So true! Blue_Roses Apr 2017 #37
Beyond naivete Zambero Apr 2017 #16
WTF? Salviati Apr 2017 #17
After the Syrian people will take care of it remark NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #18
Now, that's getting tough on crime DavidDvorkin Apr 2017 #20
That seems to be his line for everthing BainsBane Apr 2017 #21
haha, what? I'm sure Putin is an introspective man who's going to take that as a stern rebuke. nt JCanete Apr 2017 #23
OMG, Bad Russia, No Donut R B Garr Apr 2017 #25
Trump administration weak on crime. meadowlander Apr 2017 #26
Lots of stuff Rex says other countries "need to confront themselves" nt Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2017 #27
Gee, Mr. Order of Lenin sure put us American voters in our places, didn't he? Hekate Apr 2017 #28
Not quite, Buster. We need to confront it and put the bad actors in prison Warpy Apr 2017 #29
Did I miss something? Mme. Defarge Apr 2017 #30
Damn Solly Mack Apr 2017 #32
Double Damn...What an idiotic statement from Tillerson..telling Putin what to think.... Stuart G Apr 2017 #41
Maybe he tells Trump he needs to confront himself about being a liar? Solly Mack Apr 2017 #44
What the hell is this? The State Dept's "Do It Yourself Week"? calimary Apr 2017 #33
He didn't want the job leftyladyfrommo Apr 2017 #35
Go back to Exxon. Please. n/t moonscape Apr 2017 #39
Compared to his predecessors Kerry and Clinton argyl Apr 2017 #42
Tillerson is just another Russian stooge Rollo Apr 2017 #43
So Tillerson...it is OK with you if Russia Demsrule86 Apr 2017 #46
Then Why The Missile Launch In Syria, Rexy? ProfessorGAC Apr 2017 #47

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. In other words, republicans are going to sit on their fat asses
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:51 AM
Apr 2017

and do nothing to protect America or democracy while russia pisses all over the nation and perpetrates Acts of War* on the United States.

deplorable. treasonous.

* per Dick Cheney and millions of honest American citizens who can't help but smell the rank, degenerate stench of republican lies, cheating and cover up.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
12. Even more to the point: Republicans will continue to collude and benefit from Russian interference.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:11 PM
Apr 2017

lastlib

(23,225 posts)
24. And we basically have an all-but-signed confession that Russia was in on the fix....
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 02:18 PM
Apr 2017

...of our 2016 election. And that they will continue until it apparently isn't in Putin's interest to pull strings.

diva77

(7,640 posts)
45. What in hell's name is the GOP's end game??? What is nirvana for them?
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:18 AM
Apr 2017

incomprehensible, unfathomable; cannot find words or emoticons for it!!!

lark

(23,099 posts)
5. Can this regime treat us with any greater disrespect?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:52 AM
Apr 2017

Just because 62 million are total morons, doesnt mean that the majority of us are that stupid. This is a totally ignorant and self-serviing statement. No, don't look at how we colluded with Russia illegally to put Hair Furor in office, no just look for them to change their ways out of the goodness of their hearts. And their position with NATO isn't about starting wars, no, who would think something like that of our dear friend Vlad? OH, and Ukraine, well, isn't it Russian anyway? So what if they conquer it with their militiary, it's really what they wanted all along, deep in their Russian hearts.

How stupid our SOS and POTUS are and even worse, they think we are more stupid than them.

FakeNoose

(32,639 posts)
38. Yes
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 04:56 PM
Apr 2017


We have to keep calling these stupid people out every time they say this stuff.
If we don't then they just assume it's another thing they got away with.

Tillerson is trying to spin this into something an entire country did, but we know it's Putin who did it.
We know the Republicans colluded with Putin, and we know they broke the law and probably committed treason.
The FBI seems to be taking their time for whatever reason, but I believe they have the proof in their hands.
It's only a matter of time before it all comes out.

Tillerson can have his wish and go back to retirement - or jail.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
6. And this "guy" is in a cabinet position, his he that stupid?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:53 AM
Apr 2017



That comment by this ass****is just fucking unbelievable

Hey ass**** have you taken a real good look at what your right wing "republican" fascist party is doing in this country, it's mirrors Russia' if you want to get down to brass tack's ass****




Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
40. Yes, I think this statement ...defines..."STUPID"
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:40 PM
Apr 2017

....What job does he have???? Sec of State...oh no....

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
10. We have a fortune cookie
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:05 PM
Apr 2017

for Secretary of State. Could he possibly say less when he opens his mouth?

bucolic_frolic

(43,158 posts)
13. Realpolitik and diplomacy
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:13 PM
Apr 2017

are the rules of international relations, not weakness and isolationism

Tillerson sounds more and more like Rand Paul

Russia, Soviets, Putin never respect weakness. Study the post WWII period.
We wanted free reign for our companies in eastern Europe, Soviet Union wanted
the exact opposite and they had conquered the territory during the war but were
cold broke and needed US capital ($$$). Spheres of influence settled the day. It was
the beginnings of the Cold War and neither side rolled over.

GitRDun

(1,846 posts)
14. I guess I'm not as negative on these statements as many others are
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:26 PM
Apr 2017

It sounds to me like he's saying everyone knows what they are up to...they should consider that now that the jig is up, continued meddling will not improve their relationship with the west.

From my perspective, his message is if you ever want sanctions removed so you can get at that oil ("longer term objectives&quot , stay the hell out of western politics...

If that's the message, I'm OK with that.

I don't see him as a player in the Trump / Russia scandal. I think he is speaking CEO to CEO (Putin).

Just a thought.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
36. Yes, I agree. He's used to being in a position
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 04:36 PM
Apr 2017

that doesn't require so much diplomacy. As CEO, he could say and get what he wants. As SoS, not so much.SoS is a position of service to others.

He has no business being in that position, but it seems obvious he doesn't really want it either.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
15. How did he get to be a CEO? Seriously? He can't be this tone-deaf.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:36 PM
Apr 2017

I keep wondering what I am missing. Yes, he's out of his element. Yes, he's unqualified for the job. But, is he really this DUMB?

I hope the ExxonMobil shareholders sue him.

Hekate

(90,677 posts)
34. As CEO he never had to speak to press gaggles who peppered him with rude questions...
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 03:29 PM
Apr 2017

...and expected answers. If he ever spoke publicly at all (if shareholder meetings count as public) it would have been from well-prepared written remarks, no questions after. The employees in the Exxon building were all peons to one degree or another, in his eyes; if his behavior in State is any indication, he spent all his time in his office going over papers, meeting only with his near-equals, and never acknowledging the presence of other employees in the halls or elevators.

Tillerson knows one thing and he knows it well. Those skills and behaviors have not translated well to his new job.

The oft-repeated GOP mantra that government should be run like a business is entirely the wrong paradigm, but how many Americans will finally learn that lesson?

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
16. Beyond naivete
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 12:51 PM
Apr 2017

Why not let mass murderers out on parole, so they can work out their problems by themselves?
As for Russia, Drillerson seems to be hinting that the U.S. can simply let down it's guard in hopes that Russia will come around and do what's best. And as far as any past "misdeeds" go, it was all Russia's doing with no complicity on OUR part. It's all on THEM.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
17. WTF?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 01:02 PM
Apr 2017

Bank thievery is an issue that bank thieves need to confront themselves.

That statement makes no sense. As far as russian aims to destabilize their rivals, it seems to be going swimmingly.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
18. After the Syrian people will take care of it remark
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 01:10 PM
Apr 2017

Tillerson has lost what little credibility he had. Don't believe ANYTHING this asshole says.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
21. That seems to be his line for everthing
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 02:07 PM
Apr 2017

from Assad to Russian hacking. The Kremlin already confronted it, and they got what they wanted.

meadowlander

(4,395 posts)
26. Trump administration weak on crime.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 02:48 PM
Apr 2017

You don't tell sociopathic murderers that they just need to "confront themselves".

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
29. Not quite, Buster. We need to confront it and put the bad actors in prison
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 02:56 PM
Apr 2017

and that includes you if the shit gets splashed your way.

Mme. Defarge

(8,028 posts)
30. Did I miss something?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 03:02 PM
Apr 2017

From all appearances, Russia's election tampering has succeed beyond beyond all possible expectations.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
41. Double Damn...What an idiotic statement from Tillerson..telling Putin what to think....
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:53 PM
Apr 2017

Someone should tell this goof what to say!!!!!!!!!

calimary

(81,240 posts)
33. What the hell is this? The State Dept's "Do It Yourself Week"?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 03:20 PM
Apr 2017

Hos comment about how the Syrian people should decide the fate of Assad. Now the Russians should confront themselves?

This from a guy whose main priority these days is getting a good nap! Doesn't even feel like taking questions from reporters much less bringing them along with him to cover his comings 'n' goings. And CLEARLY didn't bother to do much study or preparation for the job. Laziest SOB I've ever seen in "action" on the public's nickel! Is that how he ran Exxon, too?

argyl

(3,064 posts)
42. Compared to his predecessors Kerry and Clinton
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:25 PM
Apr 2017

In Obama's administration, he is totally clueless and as bright as a brick.
Guess we'll just wait for Putin to get tired of rigging elections in the U.S. and Western Europe.
Maybe he'll win so much he'll get tired of winning. That's what Trumpty Dumpty probably figures anyway. We are so screwed.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
43. Tillerson is just another Russian stooge
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:33 PM
Apr 2017

So no wonder he's backing off the USA doing anything in response to the Russian election meddling.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
46. So Tillerson...it is OK with you if Russia
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 07:28 AM
Apr 2017

hacks our elections...you are so corrupt...I see a jail cell in your future.

ProfessorGAC

(65,013 posts)
47. Then Why The Missile Launch In Syria, Rexy?
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 08:26 AM
Apr 2017

Why didn't we just say that "gassing their own people is something Syria will have to confront themselves"?

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