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brooklynite

(94,547 posts)
Wed May 3, 2017, 09:18 AM May 2017

GOP holdout intros pre-existing condition amendment

Source: Axios

The House is about to give it one more try with the Republican health care bill. Rep. Fred Upton will introduce an amendment that would help protect people with pre-existing conditions, an attempt to bring moderate holdouts to the table.

What the amendment does: It's a fund to pay the penalty for not being previously insured for those who get priced out from the market based on health status.

What spooked moderates: An amendment by Rep. Tom MacArthur that would allow states, in limited circumstances, to waive the Affordable Care Act's essential health benefits and ban on charging sick people higher premiums. People with pre-existing conditions could only be charged more based on health status if they had a lapse in health coverage, so these would be the people helped by Upton's amendment.

President Trump, VP Pence and Paul Ryan teamed up to call undecided House members yesterday, lobbying them to support the revised bill. A staff member for a wavering member told Axios his boss had heard from all three of them.

Read more: https://www.axios.com/gop-health-bill-holdout-to-offer-pre-existing-conditions-amendment-2390529944.html

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LonePirate

(13,420 posts)
1. How generous! They kick people off health care, price them out of the market but cover the penalty.
Wed May 3, 2017, 09:21 AM
May 2017


Do Republicans really think that will make the bill more acceptable?

duncang

(1,907 posts)
3. They will probably leave it to the states
Wed May 3, 2017, 09:29 AM
May 2017

to administer and the state will pocket money and divert it. Or hold back payments unless they get campaign donations from the insurance companies in their state.

BumRushDaShow

(128,962 posts)
4. Funding the "penalty" does not equal the ability to get coverage
Wed May 3, 2017, 09:56 AM
May 2017

at extreme cost if you have a pre-existing condition.

I.e., the amendment does nothing but have the government "pay itself" when someone is forced to drop out because they can't afford the risk pool cost. The person will drop out regardless.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
5. They've done it again. The GOP has distilled down a complex, varied, multi-faceted issue
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:01 AM
May 2017

into basically one topic: pre-existing conditions. The media has helped spotlight just this one thing as if that was the only aim of the ACA and the only thing worth preserving.

Will bankruptcies due to medical costs go up? Will the AHCA cover more people? Will premiums go up at a lower rate than under the ACA? What do medical professionals think? How does the CBO score it? Will community clinics continue to get funding? Will more states expand Medicaid? Will the Medicare-eligible age stay the same? How the hell will high risk pools really work?

Any polls addressing those issues? Any CNN panels? Any reporters asking GOPrs about those?

So...as long as they keep pre-existing conditions coverage, the AHCA#3 is good to go and the scurrilous, mis-guided GOP effort to change the ACA will be considered a success?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
7. Then there are the Lifetime Caps on benefits etc. etc.
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:21 AM
May 2017

No public hearings. None. No testimony from experts. None. No time for constituents to study the bill before it is voted on. None. No attempt to find bi-partisan approaches. None

Republican business as usual.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
6. Do not fear we the taxpayers will be spending another 120 million, (and its only been 100 days)
Wed May 3, 2017, 10:16 AM
May 2017

protecting the sexual predator, while this fat Bloviation ass**** runs around with his cabinet, eating chocolate cake and then talking about after dinner entertainment launching cruise missiles at countries.

http://crooksandliars.com/2017/05/congress-allocates-extra-120-million-trump



And, then this Bloviation ass**** making a trip up to the most f***ked up part of the state called Harrisburg, PA, to speak bigly about BS, and the masses licking this ass**** ass, thinking that spending 120 million on protection could be used to lower there health care costs-----------------but nope, we have the stupid does and the stupid is show being performed everyday, and just for example look at one Mo Brook and it's BS:








And now they (republicans, not democrats, I repeat , republicans fascists, and not liberal democrats) are going to attach a "amendment" to help people with a pre-existing condition (BS). How do you put an emoji on line that smells like complete horse shit






So their fascists republican derelict "amendment " says, if you want insurance at a cheap rate go across state lines and buy insurance from f****ing Missouri that means nothing and gives nothing, but high deductibles and lower coverage, or for that matter, Alabama from this MO Brooks ass hat state, that has the most corrupt republican government in the nation, besides republican controlled Kansas, and the other 26 republican controlled states , which includes the Eddie Munster Paul Ryan and his bud, Scott Walker in Wisconsin, and that republican government team on the f***ing corruption, going around and saying that the free market is the best for health care, and then instead of spending 120 million on Flint, Michigan (or on health care for medicaid expansion) were there is another corrupt republican government.

Then while this is going on, Ryan and his gang of corruption, they are getting ready to take another recess, that's correct another one.
And while they are on recess, and in the back ground, they, republicans have really a DO NOTHING CONGRESS, that is ENABLING and still trying to DEFLECT there party leaders of committing and enabling TREASON, because after all some of them were on the TRANSITION TEAM, but don't worry, we get to pay 120 million dollars a year to protect a sexual predator that has in there convention platform the lifting of sanctions against a murderous state government called RUSSIA, but then again the country and Alabama has one Mo Brooks saying some idiot remark about not living right, and pre-existing conditions, making $174,000 a year getting health care off the taxpayers, but they want to pass an amendment on pre-existing conditions, that is full of shit language, that will hurt people, because after all, if they have words in it, the free market insurance companies and the cronies will screw you out of it (Coverage) one away or another .







So these right wing ass**** go around and talk about "free market" capitalism and competition for health care----------------their full of s****, if, that was the case, then let's have the PUBLIC OPTION to compete against the free market forces------------------chicken s**s




















forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
8. Sooo...
Wed May 3, 2017, 11:42 AM
May 2017

...government money to take up the slack of what insurers are overcharging.

Kinda like Obamacare but with extra steps. Why don't they just fund the ACA and not worry about it?

Because they want this so hard just so they can say they did it, and then slap each other on the back like they've done something for America.

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