Callista Gingrich set to be named ambassador to the Vatican
Source: CNN
By Jeff Zeleny and Caroline Kenny, CNN
Updated 11:58 AM ET, Sun May 14, 2017
Washington (CNN)Callista Gingrich, the wife of former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, is the preferred nominee to be the next ambassador to the Vatican.
The White House hopes to announce her nomination before President Donald Trump meets with Pope Francis on May 24 in Rome.
The decision to nominate Gingrich has been made, but the announcement has taken longer than expected pending approval from the Office of Government Ethics, an administration official said.
The White House hopes to formally nominate Gingrich as soon as this week.
Gingrich is a devout Catholic, telling the Christian Broadcasting Network in a 2011 interview that she has "always been a very spiritual person."
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/14/politics/callista-gingrich-vatican-ambassador/index.html
trusty elf
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hibbing
(10,098 posts)Siwsan
(26,262 posts)And didn't his first 2 marriages end in divorce, not annulment, because of adultery??
I guess that I get really easily confused by which church rules apply to the rich, and which to the poor.
tenorly
(2,037 posts)The Vatican is normally strict about rejecting ambassadorial appointments if the nominee was, for instance, divorced, or is a known adulterer.
Frau Gingrich is not only an adultress and a home wrecker, she probably engages in black masses too.
Siwsan
(26,262 posts)This just really shocked me. And that's getting increasingly difficult to do!
tenorly
(2,037 posts)She's a homewrecker pure and simple. That's evil in and of itself.
But I suspect that in her case it goes much further than that.
George II
(67,782 posts)...he told her he was divorcing her at the hospital where she was recovering from cancer surgery.
He then was having an affair with eventual wife #3 (Callista) while still married to wife #2.
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)Strangely enough if he demonstrates that he had no intention of being faithful to either wife that invalidates the marriages and gives him grounds for an annulment.
Siwsan
(26,262 posts)And I would think that would give the faithful wives grounds, not the hound dog husband!! Otherwise, why wouldn't that pretty much be able to be the claim of any adulterous spouse?
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)The first marriage would be considered invalid because his first wife had been previously married and had not had an annullment (neither marriage was Catholic, but the church recognizes outside marriages and does not recognize civil divorce, so it would consider her marriage to Newt to be bigamy and thus invalid.)
The second marriage is invalid for the same reason on Newt's part.
His behavior would contribute to the case that the marriages were invalid because he demonstrated that he did not intend to honor his vows and form a lifelong relationship. But even with perfect behavior the serial monogamy of all parties involved is grounds for invalidating their marriages.
Fees to the diocese for an annulment are about a grand, but he probably shelled out a pretty penny for professionals to write the documents and walk the paperwork through. The good news for him is that since the previous wives, being civilly divorced from him and not Catholic, had no incentive to dispute the annulment.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Then what are the vows about? Sticking with a double-shot vanilla latte and not straying into drinking a cappuccino?
Kingofalldems
(38,456 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,692 posts)who had an affair with Newt (yeah, I know; ick) while he was married to Marianne, with whom he had an affair while he was married to Jackie?
dalton99a
(81,486 posts)QED
(2,747 posts)dying of cancer IIRC.
George II
(67,782 posts)underpants
(182,802 posts)Come on people, we have to start looking for SOMETHING positive in all this.
Solly Mack
(90,766 posts)It all depends on your definition of devout.
George II
(67,782 posts)...the thrice married Newt Gingrich is an adulterer as is Callista for marrying a man who has been divorced twice.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)were having their affair, while giggling over the hearings for Bill Clinton and the Lewinsky mess. Newticles instigated the entire fiasco. He is as repulsive as tRump, and every bit as useless.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)joshdawg
(2,648 posts)republicans have no one with any sense of morality or ethics. No one!
I really have a lot of doubts about this callista woman.
BigMin28
(1,176 posts)Big F*** You to decent people everywhere. He is nothing but a pustules on hamanity.
bucolic_frolic
(43,161 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Isn't marital fidelity still sort of- well, a pillar of the Christian faith?
LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)of the ceremony that it doesn't count (plus some other stuff, for example you can't have a Catholic marriage if you're a man who is paralyzed below the waist because you can't consummate the marriage.)
So if Newt writes a little position paper and has an interview and has a few buddies to back up his story that he was a total manwhore and never intended to be faithful to wives #1 and 2, the church will consider those marriages invalid. But the kids (he has some from marriage #1) will still be considered legitimate because the couple assumed their marriage was valid at the time of birth.
Also money changes hands. If you're powerful basically you don't get declined for an annulment unless your wife's uncle is holding the Pope captive (that's a Henry VIII joke, kids. I don't get to make many of those.) Two thousand years of precedent and loopholes mean there's undoubtedly one that applies in most any circumstance and professionals exist just to find them for you and prepare the necessary documents.
dhill926
(16,337 posts)shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)It's OK if you're a Newt!
mdbl
(4,973 posts)There has to be someone else who wasn't married to a man who was fined for financial improprieties while in congress.
3catwoman3
(23,983 posts)...idea is, for the most part, a bunch of BS. Either you were married, or you weren't. I can see it in some narrow circumstances - one or both parties under the age of majority at the time of the marriage; coercion of some kind; mental status sufficiently impaired by reduced capacity of drugs/alcohol that one truly did not know what one was doing. Also, duration of the marriage seems relevant.
Gingrich was with the first wife from 1962-1981, second one from 1981-2000, #3 since 2000.
19 years for the first 2 wives. Callista is at 17. Maybe Callista's expiration date is coming up in a couple of years.
I'm not Catholic, nor Christian (happily questioning UU), but this is unseemly and disrespectful.
Ilsa
(61,695 posts)in Italy or Vatican City? Maybe he'll stay behind looking for the future ex-Mrs. Gingrich.
keithbvadu2
(36,802 posts)She herself is proof positive that he cannot be trusted out of her sight.
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Grins
(7,217 posts)My edit to that headline. Famed adulteress set to be named ambassador to the Vatican
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)She is the perfect exemplar of the moral values held by Comrade Casino* and his republican Kabal of Kolluding Komrades.
* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief
Warpy
(111,256 posts)Maybe Jabba the Gingrich will eat all the wrong Italian foods and explode. I just wonder if an adulteress will be acceptable to them. Anyone married to a divorced partner whose prior marriages haven't been sanitized by expensive Catholic annulments is considered an adulterer/adulteress under church law.
Wawannabe
(5,659 posts)northoftheborder
(7,572 posts)Let's not fret over the FBI head assignment: it will be the worst any of us could think of. Just accept that - and RESIST.
At least maybe her husband will go with her, and we won't get to hear his smarmy comments.
dembotoz
(16,804 posts)jalan48
(13,865 posts)Send Trump and Gingrich a message.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)and wearing the worst wig of all time!
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)JHB
(37,160 posts)Cally won't mind. She's trading up too.
Hula Popper
(374 posts)- making us aware the sisters are fuckinh 4 football teams this weekend...
- that steve irwins wife is boinking russell crowe
- that kate whatser name is boinking Jamie Fox.
All important shit in tv land where people have no idea who is running for their representative or senate. And don't plan to vote anyhow.
Fuck America, dumbest animals on earth...
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Even they couldn't make this shit up.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Seemed to have worked to get McConnell to menace away making public the Intelligence investigation prior to the election: now MCConnell as his immovable objection protecting him. I wonder what Newt has on Trump or offers him?
Seems a very expensive reward for just Newt's support.
Callista/Newt like Clarence Thomas, the stomach-turner-that-never-goes-away for decent Americans (especially women.)
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)is also being considered for a government post. I am sure she needs the $$$. Watch for lumpy little Johnny to start kissing up to tRump - big time.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Pretty much discourages any false hopes of McCain's patriotism, that McCain will put Country over Party re:Russia/Trump.
keithbvadu2
(36,802 posts)McCain kissed up to Dubya after Dubya's campaign called McCain a traitor and the father of a black baby.
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jpak
(41,758 posts)yup
Mars and Minerva
(369 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Response to DonViejo (Original post)
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delisen
(6,043 posts)as ambassador.
Two groups we no longer have to listen to on issues of personal morality-Evangelical Christians and Catholic Church.
I am sure it won't keep them from preaching and screeching though.
GTurck
(826 posts)Isn't that a pile being blown at Pope Francis and the Vatican? She may be all she says she is but there are protocols and sensitivities involved in such posts. Do these people respect anyone?
rurallib
(62,415 posts)in a manner of speaking.
Sending a message that the pope should kiss his ass.
If Frank don't like it, he'll tell the Church to get another pope.