Fla. Republican: We wanted to suppress black votes
Source: Salon
In the debate over new laws meant to curb voter fraud in places like Florida, Democrats always charge that Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of liberal voting blocs like blacks and young people, while Republicans just laugh at such ludicrous and offensive accusations. That is, every Republican except for Floridas former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer, who, scorned by his party and in deep legal trouble, blew the lid off his what he claims was a systemic effort to suppress the black vote. In a 630-page deposition recorded over two days in late May, Greer, who is on trial for corruption charges, unloaded a litany of charges against the whack-a-do, right-wing crazies in his party, including the effort to suppress the black vote.
In the deposition, released to the press yesterday, Greer mentioned a December 2009 meeting with party officials. I was upset because the political consultants and staff were talking about voter suppression and keeping blacks from voting, he said, according to the Tampa Bay Times. He also said party officials discussed how minority outreach programs were not fit for the Republican Party, according to the AP.
Read more: http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/
Um, yeah. We know.
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)It is another thing to admit this under oath, in a 630 page deposition. So now, it is about a systematic
effort to suppress the black vote. Who was this guy????
.. former Republican Party chairman Jim Greer...
Oh my oh MY....
Raster
(20,998 posts)...wrote the book on voter suppression and electoral infringement.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)This guy does appear to have an axe to grind.
Stuart G
(38,421 posts)it always takes an insider who knows to kinda blow the whistle.. He will have to do for now.
"They" will say, he has no "validity" but it sure does sound and look like the truth..especially that meeting in 2009.
progressivebydesign
(19,458 posts)Only wish that someone else, who has an ounce of decency, would step up and provide a recording or emails or a paper trail. Who were the consultants? Perhaps they'll be called out.
lark
(23,099 posts)What planet have you been living on? lol
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)ajain31
(63 posts)"Given the precedent set by past seven Presidents and Presidential candidates of releasing multi-year tax returns why is Romney making an exception?" Because he has a lot to hide, apparently.
He's the only one that knows what's in there, and apparently he's made the judgement that he's better off having us suspect the worst, rather than us knowing whats in there, which apparently in his mind is worse than anything we're likely to imagine.
Possibilities include:
(1) He ended up with 120 million in his 401K by the trick of agreeing with Bain to grossly undervalue the market value of his stock, then a few years later have the stock get unvalued to the stratosphere.
(2) He participated in the tax avoidance amnesty program of a few years back, avoiding major tax penalties or prosecution.
(3) Any one or more of the other borderline legal but very bad smelling tax dodges-- "in-kind" trades, "no-risk" trades, no-risk write-offs, the list is almost endless.
And BTW he HASNT even released all of his 2010 return, he very conveniently left off the foreign investments and deposits form. Very convenient.
And his argument that it would be "bothersome" to collect the tax data is a crock too-- he supposedly collected 23 years of the stuff to show to McCain in 2008.
Ajay Jain===================================================================================
Republicans betrayed their own conscience when they went against established Republican principles like the MANDATE over healthcare which was a Heritage foundation issue popularized by Gingrich.
Obama did more than his share to UNITE but the Republicans were out to oppose for opposing sake and not following any policy or principles. In the famous words of Minority Senate Leader Mitch McConnell the Republicans were out to defeat the Obama agenda even if it went against established Republican policies set by past precedent.
Mitch McConnell was out to make sure that President Obama remains a one term President and see where it has brought the Congress and its public esteem.
Gingrich out of his own admission was out to defeat Obama from the day he was sworn in as President.
You can not justify the Republicans as the "loyal" opposition as is the case in most mature democracies. They have been out to get President Obama by hook or by crook. A leader can meet the opposition half way but can not fold completely to their whims and fantasies like that of the current Tea Party affiliates.
Republicans will loose in 2012 just like they did in 2008 but with a smaller margin because of the dark money of Billionaires due to Citizens United verdict of the right wing Supreme Court.
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" ... Mitt Romney senior adviser Ed Gillespie said Sunday on CNNs "State of the Union" the GOP candidate retroactively retired from Bain Capital after the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics began. ... "
No body who has been drawing at LEAST $100,000.00 per year from 1999 to 2002 from Bain Capital retroactively retires from Bain Capital AFTER the 2002!!! Then why draw the salary of at LEAST $100,000.00 per year from 1999 to 2002 from Bain Capital if Romney retired from Bain retroactively !!!
" ... Gillespie continued, "He took a leave of absence and, in fact, Candy, he ended up not going back at all and retired retroactively to February of 1999 as a result." ... "
However SEC documents show Mitt Romney as sole owner of all shares of Bain Capital. Romney is also shown as CEO, President and Chairman of Board of Bain Capital in 2001 and 2002 then LEGALLY speaking Mitt Romney has been responsible to all that goes on under the banner of Bain Capital. Then to run for Governor of MA Romney sought residency of MA by lieu of his Bain positions. Now either Romney was at the Olympics OR he was at BAIN.
Only one can be true not BOTH at the same time simultaneously!!! Will the true Willard Mitt Romney stand up and accept ONE thing? Does Romney want to accept untrue SEC filings and be called a Felon or agree that he represented Bain from 1999 to 2002?
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On Friday the 13th (7/13/2012) the very illusive Mitt Romney gave very defensive interviews to all FIVE networks on a single day at once!! Just a few days ago Mitt Romney said to FOX News that explaining means that you are WEAK. So his five interviews "explaining" his time at Bain were signs of his weakness!!
Presidential Candidate Mr. Mitt Romney maybe feeling the heat on his role in BAIN Capital, his business experience which was supposed to be his sole criteria for creating jobs and his greatest qualification for running for the American Presidency in the current economy in 2012!
However SEC documents show Mitt Romney as sole owner of all shares of Bain Capital. Romney is shown as CEO, President and Chairman of Board of Bain Capital in 2001 and 2002 then LEGALLY speaking Mitt Romney has been responsible to all that goes on under the banner of Bain Capital.
Mitt Romney can not just share the good like job creation from 1999 to 2002 and leave the ugly like Bankruptcies and layoffs behind as if he had nothing to do about them from 1999 to 2002.
If he really wanted to disassociate himself from Bain Capital he could have resigned and sold all his shares in Bain Capital in February 1999 then it would have been a different matter but to share in the glory of Bain's job creation accept a salary of $100,000 or MORE (where are the Tax Returns?) for three years and only to refuse to take the responsibility of Bankruptcies and layoffs on his WATCH (1999-2002) is trying to have it both ways and then complaining of playing politics having been caught with his hand in the proverbial Cookie Jar that is the very essence of an ACTIVE LEGAL ROLE in Bain Capital till 2002!! Was Romney getting $100,000.00 or more to do NOTHING for BAIN Capital???
Mitt Romney will have to face the consequences of this leaving Bain "lie" that Mitt Romney has brought on upon himself. If we keep reminding the Romney campaign of the Bain exit lie and Romney's ill effects on workers robbing them of their hard earned salaries and life long benefits all the way to November then 7/13/2012 (FRIDAY the 13th) will go down as the turning point of the 2012 Presidential election!
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Two-Faced Willard
"I was not responsible for what happened at Bain Capital" - Mitt Romney
"I was the Sole shareholder, Sole director, Chief executive officer and President of Bain" - Mitt Romney
"The Arizona immigration policy is a good model" Mitt Romney
"I didn't really support the Arizona immigration policy" Mitt Romney
The Massachusetts healthcare plan should be a model for the nation Mitt Romney
Healthcare reform should be left to the states Mitt Romney
"Let Detroit go bankrupt" -Mitt Romney
"I'll take a lot of credit for saving the auto industry" -Mitt Romney
I believe Roe v Wade has gone too far. Mitt Romney
Roe v Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it. Mitt Romney
I respect and will protect a womans right to choose. Mitt Romney
I never really called myself pro-choice. Mitt Romney
It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam. Mitt Romney
I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and represent our country there. Mitt Romney
Im not trying to return to Reagan-Bush. Mitt Romney
Ronald Reagan is
my hero. Mitt Romney
I think the minimum wage ought to keep pace with inflation. Mitt Romney
"Theres no question raising the minimum wage excessively causes a loss of jobs. Mitt Romney
I saw my father march with Martin Luther King. Mitt Romney
I did not see it with my own eyes. Mitt Romney
I would like to have campaign spending limits. Mitt Romney
The American people should be free to advocate for their candidates without burdensome limitations. Mitt Romney
I supported the assault weapon ban. Mitt Romney
"I dont support any gun control legislation. Mitt Romney
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)You are not going to find anyone credible, let alone respectable, in a room full of Republicans planning to steal an election....
"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)Hopefully something in those 630 pages could point towards something more solid to corroborate his claims.
24601
(3,962 posts)even. It seems that his attempt to extort money for silence was summarily rejected.
Occulus
(20,599 posts)Names, please.
I want to know what rightwingers are trying to silence the truth through lies and obfuscation, and you, you precious thing, are a fantastic source for that.
DO tell us what all the wingers are saying. You ARE the expert, after all.
24601
(3,962 posts)I usually see the Tampa Tribune a few days a week at work - although it's fading fast.
Sorry we poor uneducated Florida backwater bumpkins can't all read the NY Post like you apparently do.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)in the old days back when Repukelicans were Republicans
sinkingfeeling
(51,454 posts)Courtesy Flush
(4,558 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Would have been good if he'd done something to stop them instead of riding the gravy train during those years. Just turned a blind eye while furthering his own ambitions. It's a little too late to let that horse out of the barn now, but this may still have legs and may be used by Holder in his fight with Florida. Just want to get this resolved before the election. We still have a few months to stop the massive voter suppression, but it's hard to get it reversed in the face of continous media coverage justifying it.
Fridays Child
(23,998 posts)Will it enable investigators to pursue charges against others?
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)barbtries
(28,793 posts)when it's acknowledged. this is the way republicans win. not very democratic, or american.
tclambert
(11,085 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,705 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Which would be fine with them.
JoeInNy
(20 posts)After all it doesn't look good that he is on trial for corruption charges and already mad - 'wanting to get back' - at the GOP.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)newspeak
(4,847 posts)when little boots and darth cheney did their coup. And, even, with the help with his bro, Gore still won florida. Remember when one of the employees working in the registrars office was blacklisted? The corporation they hired to do the list, apparently, was told not to check the names again after being put on the list. Also, I remember that there was voter intimidation at the polls in florida. Remember the roadblocks set up to get to polling places? To me, that's getting down right scary, the shite that's gone on in this country; voter suppression, voter intimidation and downright cheating.
Of course, just like the phone jamming case, nothing happens until after the results are in and the damage is done. I'm tired of the damn corruption and the "in your face" cheating.
As our government blathers on and on about how they are bringing democracy to some of these countries we've bombed the shite out of (actually installing favored pro-corporate stooges), we at home are reverting to the good (bad) robber baron days, where every politician is bought by the highest bidder. Of course, now days it doesn't matter if its' a foreign enterprise. While we spout democracy, I wonder how many in the industrialized countries who actually have a fairer democratic system, look at us and shake their heads.
chknltl
(10,558 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Must we go back to 2000 and undo everything, all Bush's judicial appointments, etc? How can we trust governance by cheaters?
elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Robeysays
(673 posts)Take em all down.
progressoid
(49,988 posts)Hello, Eric Holder? Are you hearing this?
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)of course that happening isn't very likely.
mia
(8,360 posts)The truth comes out.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Otherwise it could have been said "we want to suppress Democrats votes". I think it's true. I think he was privy to meetings and conversations with political consultants.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)gregoire
(192 posts).
24601
(3,962 posts)alfredo
(60,071 posts)Blacks the right to vote.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)is it a crime for a citizen tof the united states to vote:
"we the people , not we the white male citizens ,nor yet we , the male citizens ,but we the whole people who formed the union". susan b anthoney
fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)santamargarita
(3,170 posts)when do we act? If we let that bunch steal yet another election, then it's really over!
G_j
(40,367 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)"Not fit" for Richie Rich liars like Rmoney and the Kochs. Here's hoping minorities, who are fast becoming the majority, are getting the picture.
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Selling out for the hopes of long green is what drives some Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, & other non-White ethnic groups to that devious coalition seen in the Republican Party.
That Filipina fool Michelle Malkin is a useful idiot parroting the sentiment of rich White bigots with a bronze face.
Blacks like Herman Cain, J.C. Watts, & Alan Keyes collect cash helping Massa better oppress their brothers & sisters.
Some do anything for the money even it's to the detriment of the very people they came from.
Women like Ann Coulter coming out here with this nonsense when at one time before Women's Rights she would not be allowed to speak unless spoken to. Much less vote.
The Progressive Liberal position is the ONLY position that should be taken until we reach Utopia.
Until the land is good for ALL people there is always room for improvement.
John Lucas
lindysalsagal
(20,682 posts)Maybe he could actually make this a real national issue if he did.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom