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canetoad

(17,160 posts)
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:39 AM Jun 2017

Watergate 'pales' compared with Trump, says former US intelligence chief

Source: The Age

June 7 2017 - 2:35PM

The infamous Watergate scandal "pales" in comparison to the allegations about the Trump administration's links to Russia, former United States intelligence chief James Clapper has said in an explosive set of remarks in Canberra.

Mr Clapper, who served as Director of National Intelligence under Barack Obama and in senior roles with Republican leaders as well, also said he would "understand" if US allies such as Australia withheld intelligence from American counterparts because of Mr Trump's demonstrated lack of discretion with such sensitive secrets.

The 50-year veteran of the military and the intelligence community painted a picture of disconcerting dysfunction in Washington with "assaults on American institutions coming from both external and internal sources" and most strikingly said the Trump-Russia links were much worse than the notorious scandal that toppled former US president Richard Nixon in the 1970s.

"I lived through Watergate. I was on active duty then in the Air Force as a young officer," Mr Clapper said following a speech to the National Press Club in Canberra. "It was a scary time . . . I have to say, though, that I think you compare the two that Watergate pales really in my view compared to what we're confronting now."

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/watergate-pales-compared-with-trump-says-former-us-intelligence-chief-20170607-gwmb0g.html



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Clapper is in Australia as a Visiting Professor at ANU.
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Watergate 'pales' compared with Trump, says former US intelligence chief (Original Post) canetoad Jun 2017 OP
That's gonna leave a mark. Stonepounder Jun 2017 #1
Nixon wasn't governor of California. Basic LA Jun 2017 #5
Nixon was our last liberal president DeminPennswoods Jun 2017 #9
The closest Nixon ever got to being Governor of CA was losing to Pat Brown in 62 LeftyMom Jun 2017 #11
Oops. Sorry. Sometimes I think my age is catching up with me. Stonepounder Jun 2017 #16
It happens. My dad and I spent way too long recently trying to remember who the LeftyMom Jun 2017 #17
Nixon never got in bed with the Russians. Tactical Peek Jun 2017 #2
James Clapper is right on. furtheradu Jun 2017 #3
K & R SunSeeker Jun 2017 #4
K & R Duppers Jun 2017 #6
Wow. I remember when they were using Clapper to say there was no evidence. pnwmom Jun 2017 #7
I completely agree. Nixon was a twisted bastard, but he didn't try to sell us out ... Hekate Jun 2017 #8
Kick! BadgerMom Jun 2017 #10
Look what just happened with Qatar. U.S. base there thrown under the bus. BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #12
kick n/t miyazaki Jun 2017 #13
Good on Clapper. Had to go down under to make that comment. riversedge Jun 2017 #14
Well yes it does. Nixon used Liddy and Howard Hunt. Trump used Putin. yellowcanine Jun 2017 #15

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
1. That's gonna leave a mark.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 01:54 AM
Jun 2017

I agree with him.

Nixon obstructed justice, but he was trying to save himself not destroy the country. He had been a popular governor of California. He was the first President to visit China, and was working on establishing a National Health system. Whether you agreed with his policies or not, he had what he considered to be the best interests of the country at heart.

Trump is doing his damnest to destroy our country, has absolutely NO ethics or morals and thinks being President is 'so let it be written, so let it be done', doesn't understand anything about government. He thought he would simply hob-nob with other foreign leaders, tell them what to do (and extort them if at all possible), make a lot of money for himself and his family, and play lots of golf. Where most Presidents work 12+ hours a day, he works 2-3 on heavy days and takes long weekends to go play golf.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
16. Oops. Sorry. Sometimes I think my age is catching up with me.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:09 PM
Jun 2017

Nixon was a US Representative and then a US Senator from Calif., but was never Gov.

My bad.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
17. It happens. My dad and I spent way too long recently trying to remember who the
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:35 PM
Jun 2017

governor between Wilson and Davis was.

The wasn't anyone to remember.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
7. Wow. I remember when they were using Clapper to say there was no evidence.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 02:48 AM
Jun 2017

Though the truth was that he hadn't been in a position to see what the FBI had on DT's team.

Well, DT's people aren't going to be able to use Clapper anymore. He's furious with all of them.

Hekate

(90,686 posts)
8. I completely agree. Nixon was a twisted bastard, but he didn't try to sell us out ...
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 03:50 AM
Jun 2017

...to the highest bidder and/or Russia.

He had smarts, which Trumpty manifestly lacks. Nixon opened China and signed off on the EPA, among other genuine accomplishments.

In addition, there were men and women of honor (remember that concept?) in Congress, on both sides. People who actually put country before party when push came to shove.

The current situation is way worse, in part because Trump is deranged and he and the GOP are both incredibly corrupt. We could actually lose our democracy.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
12. Look what just happened with Qatar. U.S. base there thrown under the bus.
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 06:52 AM
Jun 2017

Due to idiotic stupidity showcased with abject bravado.

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