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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Tue Jun 13, 2017, 11:56 PM Jun 2017

Putin taunts Trump as he claims the US thinks it can do anything without consequences

Source: Raw Story



RELATIONS between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump could be set to hit a new low after the Russian president offered a thinly veiled dig at US foreign policy in a new documentary.

By WILL KIRBY
PUBLISHED: 21:09, Tue, Jun 13, 2017 | UPDATED: 22:44, Tue, Jun 13, 2017


Speaking to US filmmaker Oliver Stone as part of a tell-all documentary on the Russian president, Mr Putin revealed his true feelings about the US, claiming it “got a false sense that it is able to do everything without any consequences,” in particular after the Soviet Union’s collapse.

He said: “In such a situation, a man or a country begins to make mistakes… The state begins to function ineffectively. One mistake follows another.

“That is the trap in which, as I believe, the United States got caught into.”

He continued: "I believe that if you think you are the only world power, trying to impose on the whole nation the idea of their exclusiveness, this creates an imperialistic mentality in society, which in turn requires an adequate foreign policy expected by society. And the country's leaders are forced to follow this logic. And in practice this might go contrary to the interest of the Americans... It demonstrates it's impossible to control everything."



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/trump-stopped-from-firing-mueller-after-learning-special-counsel-is-friends-with-comey-report/

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Putin taunts Trump as he claims the US thinks it can do anything without consequences (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2017 OP
Does this mean Pooty isn't Dolt 45's BFF any more? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #1
Trumpy got suckered. He thinks he's a misplaced Russian, admired for his wealth, Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #4
But will he ever realize it? Chemisse Jun 2017 #14
And Putin's cock holster says what? denbot Jun 2017 #2
EFF putin... asiliveandbreathe Jun 2017 #3
Double eff em. iluvtennis Jun 2017 #6
Trump has delivered big time for Putin Moral Compass Jun 2017 #5
How ungrateful of Putin! His puppet Trump has done everything he wanted The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #7
Oh. Just when we're investigating Trump's relationship with Putin, suddenly...the two are enemies. C Moon Jun 2017 #8
Trump (and likely the GOP) thought they were playing Putin. They were wrong. politicat Jun 2017 #9
Time to release those peepee tapes Poot. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #10
I bet we'll soon hear this was filmed back when Obama was President, hence he's 'the man' ... mr_lebowski Jun 2017 #11
It was completed some time in September 2016 BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #12
Using shell companies... noneof_theabove Jun 2017 #13
tuRdump is Putin's pawn dreamland Jun 2017 #15
Spoken like a true KGB pappa spy.... paleotn Jun 2017 #16
The last paragraph of that excerpt is hard to refute...but most Americans don't realize... yurbud Jun 2017 #17

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
4. Trumpy got suckered. He thinks he's a misplaced Russian, admired for his wealth,
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:19 AM
Jun 2017

and now and forever indebted to Russian oligarchs. Putin plays Trumpy for the useful idiot he is. He tells Trumpy what to do, and Trumpy does it, expecting praise. Putin only gives praise tactically. Trumpy is suckered.

Moral Compass

(1,521 posts)
5. Trump has delivered big time for Putin
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:49 AM
Jun 2017

Trump has done everything that Putin has wanted. He has tacitly approved of the annexation of Crimea and doesn't seem all that opposed to Russian intervention in Ukraine. He has, even when prompted, been unwilling to criticize Putin in any way. In fact, he has repeatedly defended Putin.

He has sown division within the NATO alliance by making a speech that explicitly failed to express the United States reaffirmation of Article V of the NATO alliance.

He and his proxies have also floated the idea of terminating the current Russian sanctions even though Russia has not done anything that would merit the cancellation of those sanctions.

Please don't lose sight of the how Trump and his minions have supported Putin and Russia.

It has been explicit and ongoing.

Could Putin and Trump fall out of love? Please follow the money. That is the only thing Trump cares about.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,691 posts)
7. How ungrateful of Putin! His puppet Trump has done everything he wanted
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 01:09 AM
Jun 2017

and now he's being so mean! Sure as shit, Trump got played.

And, of course, we're getting screwed.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
8. Oh. Just when we're investigating Trump's relationship with Putin, suddenly...the two are enemies.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 01:10 AM
Jun 2017

Yeah right.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
9. Trump (and likely the GOP) thought they were playing Putin. They were wrong.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 01:36 AM
Jun 2017

Putin's goal is accomplished -- the great enemy is so embroiled in chaos of its own making that it will be ineffective at best and marginalized for at least a few years. Russia didn't care how the chaos came to be, as long as there was plenty of it. Now that the goal is accomplished, Putin no longer needs to even make the appearance of making nice.

The GOoP bought McCain's underestimation of Russia. They didn't think a gas station posed a real threat, but it might be a useful tool. While Putin knew better.

The easiest people to scam are those who think they're the ones running the con.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
11. I bet we'll soon hear this was filmed back when Obama was President, hence he's 'the man' ...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 04:45 AM
Jun 2017

... that Pootie is referring to in the interview.

He's playing this country like a damn fiddle ... smarter than anyone except the best the Dems have to offer ... such as Obama, Franken, Schumer, etc. NOBODY on the GOP side of things is even close, esp. not Drumpf ...

noneof_theabove

(410 posts)
13. Using shell companies...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:07 AM
Jun 2017

is a bigly sign of something is being hidden.

My money is the family is buying them.

As with all thing politics -- FOLLOW THE MONEY.

Tell you congressmen [dem] to REQUIRE the Orange Dumpster the transparency is required since he is the pr*sident.

dreamland

(964 posts)
15. tuRdump is Putin's pawn
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jun 2017

Putin never wanted a continuation of Obama era tactics, he got lucky when he realized how manipulative Drump was with a large ego and larger debts. He saw opportunities to "dethrone" the US from the world's stage and he prompted, and took it. I believe he was waiting for the exit of Obama to push his plans which couldn't happen had Hilary won. There is admiration from tuRdump for Putin, but it was never anything more than a pawn for Putin.

paleotn

(17,913 posts)
16. Spoken like a true KGB pappa spy....
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 10:27 AM
Jun 2017

Vlad mixes the truth with lies and uses the mixture to his advantage with the average Pox viewer and those who pay little attention to US or international politics. Just ignore the fact that Vlad committed an act of war against us and we're not doing one damn thing about it. All that thanks to two nuts, Agent Orange and Stone, who make useful tools.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
17. The last paragraph of that excerpt is hard to refute...but most Americans don't realize...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jun 2017

that is what our foreign policy has been since the end of the Cold War.

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