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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 06:07 AM Jun 2017

Democrats, Republicans Receive Death Threats After Steve Scalise Shooting Amid Security Concerns

Source: International Business Times

Both Republican and Democratic lawmakers are receiving death threats after the House of Representatives Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot at during a congressional baseball practice Wednesday.

During a security briefing, California lawmaker Nanette Diaz Barragán said Democratic representatives have been receiving threatening calls on their personal mobile phones, with the caller saying, “You guys are next,” and “You Democrats, you Democrats,” Buzzfeed reported. The threats came shortly after Scalise was admitted to the hospital with fatal injuries.

Claudia Tenney, a Republican representative from New York, received an email with the subject line, “One down, 216 to go…” The email further stated: "Did you NOT expect this? When you take away lives of the ordinary people in order to pay off the wealthiest among us, your own lives are forfeit. Certainly, your souls and morality were lost long before. Good riddance.”

The gunman who was responsible for fatally injuring Scalise and wounding three other lawmakers has not been ruled as a part of any organized gang by the FBI. Tim Slater, a special agent of the FBI, said it is still early to state anything affirmatively when asked whether the gunman made an attempt to assassinate Scalise, the New York Times reported. The investigators were “exploring all angles,” he said.

Read more: http://www.ibtimes.com/democrats-republicans-receive-death-threats-after-steve-scalise-shooting-amid-2552484



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Democrats, Republicans Receive Death Threats After Steve Scalise Shooting Amid Security Concerns (Original Post) SecularMotion Jun 2017 OP
Hint: Spending more money on security will not solve the problem BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #1
Therefore... Roy Rolling Jun 2017 #15
It's strategic, no doubt BeyondGeography Jun 2017 #16
Disturbing. It only takes someone to light the fuse rpannier Jun 2017 #2
Yes the guys who want to regulate our bedroom and morality bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #7
Scalise lives. "fatal injuries" ? "fatally injuring Scalise" ? Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #3
When i read that d_r Jun 2017 #6
Same Here! ProfessorGAC Jun 2017 #11
Yes Doug the Dem Jun 2017 #12
Me too! Frantically checking news to see what I missed AllyCat Jun 2017 #17
Did they go to school? blueseas Jun 2017 #13
Same reaction. Went looking for reports of his death. Try 'seriously' instead of 'fatally'. sinkingfeeling Jun 2017 #19
Extremely irresponsible Bradical79 Jun 2017 #23
I caught that, too. Maybe, they meant "near fatal". Hugin Jun 2017 #24
Wtf? Fatally injuring implies he is dead UpInArms Jun 2017 #28
Rabble rousing bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #4
Consider all the people that feel ignored and marginalized regardless of ideology.. gordianot Jun 2017 #5
Sow the wind; reap the whirlwind. n/t sarge43 Jun 2017 #8
With today's advanced technology, babylonsister Jun 2017 #9
Yea but here in the US, we like to IGNORE domestic terrorism. CousinIT Jun 2017 #14
The report says more than once "fatally injuring Scalise" titaniumsalute Jun 2017 #10
No, it's a shift in the word's meaning. Igel Jun 2017 #20
You're not the only one. I immediately thought he died. Doremus Jun 2017 #21
Oh no shenmue Jun 2017 #18
The death threats have got to stop. Initech Jun 2017 #22
"" The gunman who was responsible for FATALLY injuring Scalise and wounding... """ ?????? vkkv Jun 2017 #25
Only 50% of the posts (12 of 25) in this thread refer to this error. All posted before you. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #26
Hope they track down every single one of them, ASAP Sunlei Jun 2017 #27

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
15. Therefore...
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 08:47 AM
Jun 2017

Priority #1 for shit-stirrers: More security. As taxpayers, we did not sign up to protect provocative political hate merchants. Free security while they ratchet-up the rehetoric.

What could possibly go wrong.

BeyondGeography

(39,374 posts)
16. It's strategic, no doubt
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 08:52 AM
Jun 2017

Keep taking things from people except for one: guns; sky's the limit. Dangerous business. Must adjust with the times.

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
2. Disturbing. It only takes someone to light the fuse
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 06:22 AM
Jun 2017

I hope all of these 'individuals' are the big mouthed, keyboard anarchists we see so much on the internet
Last thing we need are angry people carrying around their own ammo dump, shooting at whatever
Making it more difficult, loose gun laws

bucolic_frolic

(43,156 posts)
7. Yes the guys who want to regulate our bedroom and morality
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:18 AM
Jun 2017

are totally permissive in their use of guns. It never made any sense to me.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,001 posts)
3. Scalise lives. "fatal injuries" ? "fatally injuring Scalise" ?
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 06:29 AM
Jun 2017

People don't know how to write English any more.

I think the writer was trying to write "life-threatening" but thought it was too many letters to type with their thumb.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
6. When i read that
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:04 AM
Jun 2017

I thought I'd missed the news over night and went looking at news sites. Very sloppy.

Hugin

(33,140 posts)
24. I caught that, too. Maybe, they meant "near fatal".
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jun 2017

Gotta pump this pulp out there... No time to proof read. Publish or perish.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
28. Wtf? Fatally injuring implies he is dead
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 12:55 PM
Jun 2017

The word should be "seriously"

Stupid people don't have a good grasp of the English language.

Sigh

bucolic_frolic

(43,156 posts)
4. Rabble rousing
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 06:38 AM
Jun 2017

was always denied when Right Wing Radio did it. Don't see why it applies in this instance.

What the gunman did was deplorable. Simply there are people who can't handle responsibility.
If anything comes from this incident, it would in my mind hopefully be some restrictions on
dangerous misfitted people bearing arms.

Yes I know, the real solution is for everyone to be armed at all times. How are the good guys
separated from the bad guys? Just keep shooting, it will sort itself out.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
5. Consider all the people that feel ignored and marginalized regardless of ideology..
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 06:59 AM
Jun 2017

This is a way to get attention for yourself and your cause and it does not take a lot of skill to spread mayhem with a semi automatic assault weapon. Suicidal types get noticed you will be remembered. What is frightening is the possibility of groups perpetrating such crimes. The potential of such happening again is certain in a country awash in such weapons.

babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
9. With today's advanced technology,
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:35 AM
Jun 2017

I think a few of these clowns need to be hunted down and prosecuted very publicly. Might tone down those that think they can get away with it, which they currently can.

CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
14. Yea but here in the US, we like to IGNORE domestic terrorism.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 08:36 AM
Jun 2017

Our IC has the means to get whoever is doing this. I hope they use every tool at their disposal to run these guys down.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
10. The report says more than once "fatally injuring Scalise"
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:47 AM
Jun 2017

As far as I know he's still alive which means it wasn't fatal or have I forgotten my basic English language as I'm aging??

Igel

(35,300 posts)
20. No, it's a shift in the word's meaning.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 09:35 AM
Jun 2017

There are a lot of them. As long as they get the basic idea the fine-grained details don't matter like the context. A lot of times they're taught that words have perfect synonyms, so drop out one and put in another for "style."

determining one's fate
•the fatal flaw in this dazzling woman: a total lack of taste — Marya Mannes

causing death •a fatal crash •a fatal disease •a fatal wound

bringing ruin •a fatal attraction to gambling

causing failure •a fatal design flaw •Lack of sufficient support was fatal to his campaign.
(https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fatal)

We know that the context is "life or death", and if an injury is fatal it has produced or with very high confidence will produce death.

But as a synonym to "lethal", that may not be obvious. A lethal poison can be consumed without your dying; hyperbole's often been built into the meaning, so when a hairy buffalo is described as "lethal", you expect a lot of intoxication, not dead partiers. Same for "deadly". If you get access to "fatal" just by using more common near-synonyms, you miss an important bit of the word's semantics.

I teach science. But my kids will often say that two words are synonyms, because that's what they're taught. "No, speed and velocity aren't the same." I point out that I was taught that English only had one pair of synonyms (which I can't remember 30 years after I was told this, and suspect I was never actually taught the words by my sociolinguistics prof): some sort of wort with two neighboring villages using different words for it. The villages grew, merged, and for a while each word, when used, identified where the speaker's relatives lived. Then post-WWII the population intermarried enough that even this meaning was lost, so the village had two equal words in equal use by any person in the village in any context for the same thing. While this is a bit hyperbolic itself, I'm sure there must be other examples, there aren't many.

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
21. You're not the only one. I immediately thought he died.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 09:54 AM
Jun 2017

If it's correct to use 'fatal' to describe a shooting where the victim hasn't died, things really have changed. :

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
25. "" The gunman who was responsible for FATALLY injuring Scalise and wounding... """ ??????
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 11:58 AM
Jun 2017

Huh WHAT ?!?!?!
Anyone else catch that ??


"fatally injuring" means to kill, as in dead, expired, deceased, gone, toes-up, six feet under, pushing daisies, dirt nap, worm food...
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