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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 11:58 AM Jun 2017

Bill Cosby jury deadlocked; ordered to keep deliberating by judge

Source: Yahoo News



CHRIS FRANCESCANI, LESLEY MESSER, MICHAEL ROTHMAN and JOI-MARIE MCKENZIE
Good Morning AmericaJune 15, 2017

The jury for Bill Cosby's criminal trial is deadlocked on a verdict and has been ordered by the judge to continue deliberations.

The jury in Cosby's trial has already deliberated for more than 30 hours over four days. The comedian is accused of sexually assaulting Andrea Constand in 2014.

Cosby has been charged with three counts of aggravated indecent assault, each of which carries a maximum sentence of ten years in prison with no minimum and a $25,000 fine. The charges stem from a 2004 sexual encounter with Constand.

Constand has claimed that Cosby drugged and molested her, but the former television star had said in a decade-old deposition that their relations were consensual and that he only gave her a Benadryl to help her relax.

Read more: https://www.yahoo.com/gma/bill-cosby-sexual-assault-trial-jury-deliberate-4th-131004962--abc-news-celebrities.html?soc_trk=gcm&soc_src=3b867fdc-9f47-11e5-8264-fa163e2c24a6&.tsrc=notification-brknews

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Bill Cosby jury deadlocked; ordered to keep deliberating by judge (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
Yup, all it takes is just *ONE* holdout. Archae Jun 2017 #1
deadlocked on "a" verdict... suggesting that they reached a verdict on 2 of the 3 counts? unblock Jun 2017 #2
I wouldn't read that into it. n/t DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #5
As an update from local news here in Philly BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #8
Thanks. That was not clear originally. unblock Jun 2017 #9
Agreed. Heard better reporting this afternoon. nt BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #10
for real get it over with luvMIdog Jun 2017 #3
I was the lead juror on a multiple child rape case a few years ago... C Moon Jun 2017 #4
Having tried hundreds of cases DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #6
This reminds me of the film "12 Angry Men". Check it out! BigmanPigman Jun 2017 #7
When it comes to celebrities in this country.... RhodeIslandOne Jun 2017 #11

unblock

(52,221 posts)
2. deadlocked on "a" verdict... suggesting that they reached a verdict on 2 of the 3 counts?
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 12:01 PM
Jun 2017

if so, that sorta hints are guilty on those 2.

not guilty on 2 charges and deadlocked on a 3rd seems less likely somehow.

BumRushDaShow

(128,964 posts)
8. As an update from local news here in Philly
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 05:48 PM
Jun 2017

They said they "could not come to a unanimous decision on any of the counts". They continue to deliberate this afternoon per the judge's instructions.

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
4. I was the lead juror on a multiple child rape case a few years ago...
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 12:12 PM
Jun 2017

Nobody wanted to be lead, so I took it to move things along. The case involved someone with "ties" so everyone was a little on edge about their safety.
When we got to the back room, most of the jurors sat down and said, "Guilty! Okay, let's go home." ...and laughed.
Me and another guy were the two who held out. We knew the scum was guilty, but we thought it fair to break down and discuss each charge. We spent a day and a half deliberating (which I think shocked the judge and prosecutor), but we finally found him guilty on 7 of the 8 charges. The 1 charge that had us stuck seemed very unclear, so we agreed.

What I'm saying is, it's not a bad thing when the jury takes a long time to deliberate—and is even deadlocked: it may mean there are one or more jurors who want to think through the charges, and not just get out of there and go home.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
6. Having tried hundreds of cases
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 12:54 PM
Jun 2017

I can tell you that there is no "rule of thumb" when it comes to the length of deliberations. That has a lot to do, as you have suggested from your experience, with the attitude of the foreperson and, really, the group as a whole. If you have a foreperson that insists on being very deliberative and precise, it can take a while, but it doesn't necessarily mean they are favoring one side or the other. The same is true if you have a "let's take a quick vote and get going" attitude by the foreperson. However, if they have sent out a message that they are deadlocked, that's more than just a jury taking their time.

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