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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:15 AM Jun 2017

UPDATED - Senate Leaders Unveil Bill to Repeal the Affordable Care Act

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Source: New York Times

By ROBERT PEAR and THOMAS KAPLAN JUNE 22, 2017

WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans, who have promised a repeal of the Affordable Care Act for seven years, took a major step on Thursday to achieve that goal as they unveiled a bill to end the health law’s mandate that nearly everyone have health care, remake and cut the Medicaid program and create a new system of federal tax credits to help people buy health insurance.

The Senate bill — once promised as a top-to-bottom revamp of the health bill passed by the House last month — instead maintains its structure, with modest adjustments. The Senate version is, in some respects, more moderate than the House bill, offering more financial assistance to some lower-income people to help them defray the rapidly rising cost of private health insurance. But the Senate measure, like the House bill, would phase out the extra money that the federal government has provided to states as an incentive to expand eligibility for Medicaid. And like the House measure, it would put the entire Medicaid program on a budget, ending the open-ended entitlement that now exists.

It would also repeal virtually all the tax increases imposed by the Affordable Care Act to pay for itself, in effect handing a broad tax cut to the affluent, paid for by billions of dollars sliced from Medicaid, a health care program that serves one in five Americans, not only the poor but two-thirds of those in nursing homes. The bill, drafted in secret, is likely to come to the Senate floor next week, and could come to a vote after 20 hours of debate.

If it passes, President Trump and the Republican Congress would be on the edge of a major overhaul of the American health care system — one-sixth of the nation’s economy.



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Senate GOP brings Obamacare repeal bill out of the shadows

After weeks of work behind closed doors, the GOP released its plan and will try to find the votes to pass it.

By BURGESS EVERETT , JENNIFER HABERKORN and ADAM CANCRYN 06/22/2017 05:19 AM EDT Updated 06/22/2017 10:47 AM EDT

Senate Republican leaders unveiled their long-secret plan to repeal Obamacare on Thursday, giving GOP senators and the public the first glimpse at a bill that would rewrite the nation’s health care system.

The broad contours of the 142-page bill — which would tear down large parts of the 2010 health law, cap one of the nation’s biggest entitlement programs and overhaul one-sixth of the U.S. economy — have come into focus in recent days. But GOP senators trickling out of an all-conference meeting this morning said while the reaction was broadly positive, it amounted to just an initial step toward winning over a host of still-skeptical lawmakers.

"A lot of questions," Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) said of the closed-door session. "But there wasn't paper. Until they get a chance to read it, I'm sure they won't firm up."

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is pushing for a vote as early as next Thursday, ahead of Congress’ July 4 recess. Since Democrats are unified in their opposition, Republicans are using a fast-track process that can evade filibusters.

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UPDATED - Senate Leaders Unveil Bill to Repeal the Affordable Care Act (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2017 OP
Well good for them...they made it almost as mean as the House titaniumsalute Jun 2017 #1
But will the House, that conceded to a modified amount of meaness (phase out of Medicaid expansion) BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #6
Yeah it was razor thin in the House titaniumsalute Jun 2017 #8
Correct BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #10
Portman also has to deal with Kasich who is 100% opposed to this bill titaniumsalute Jun 2017 #13
Yup. BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #14
and hopefully the tweaks make it impossible to pass in the House titaniumsalute Jun 2017 #15
I emailed portman earlier this week: Marthe48 Jun 2017 #17
Good BumRushDaShow Jun 2017 #18
2/3 of those in nursing homes bucolic_frolic Jun 2017 #2
When I was much younger greymattermom Jun 2017 #4
My great aunt and grandmother shared a room on the ground floor Marthe48 Jun 2017 #19
Looks like the effects are delayed release Dopers_Greed Jun 2017 #3
K&R for broader exposure uppityperson Jun 2017 #5
and rtracey Jun 2017 #7
I hope the Dems raise hell get the red out Jun 2017 #9
There are enough of US right now. Stonepounder Jun 2017 #11
It is pretty obvious why they didn't know what was in it: TryLogic Jun 2017 #12
be prepared for the repukes to sell this pile of shit as chocolate. nt Javaman Jun 2017 #16
and to all of those who didn't vote, et al... cisco man Jun 2017 #20

BumRushDaShow

(128,918 posts)
6. But will the House, that conceded to a modified amount of meaness (phase out of Medicaid expansion)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:33 AM
Jun 2017

vs immediate elimination of it in order to pick up about 5 GOP moderates to get the vote to 217, accept this "less mean" version? Certainly the teabaggers want a complete repeal and gutting of Medicaid and they may lose more teabaggers than gain any moderates who discovered they were "had".

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
8. Yeah it was razor thin in the House
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:36 AM
Jun 2017

Will this be a deal breaker for them? And who knows if it will even pass the Senate at this point. 3 moderates might kick it to the curb.

BumRushDaShow

(128,918 posts)
10. Correct
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:44 AM
Jun 2017

The Senate can't lose more than 2 GOP Senators and I understand Murkowski has openly expressed doubts. Collins has too although she tends to go along with them if they need the votes. Portman has also been noncommittal but he is getting hit hard by constituents. I expect any GOP states that have expanded Medicaid (despite the removal of the requirement to do so) with GOP Senators may have to think twice (although they tend to put kick-the-can-down-the-road-until-after-an-election wording in these things).

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
13. Portman also has to deal with Kasich who is 100% opposed to this bill
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:36 AM
Jun 2017

Plus he was just re-elected so he can afford to piss off some constituents. Hopefully he will be headstrong and vote NO.

BumRushDaShow

(128,918 posts)
14. Yup.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jun 2017

Just need 3 definite "no" and it's dead. But Turtle is probably going to twist arms and make adjustments to keep the "nos" down to 2 so Pence can take it over the top. His reputation is on the line and he'd have to concoct some extraordinary face-saver - especially after Eddie Munster already did his own victory lap (which was pointless because their bill was DOA in the Senate). I hope there are others so it gets ditched completely before their artificial "deadline".

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
17. I emailed portman earlier this week:
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 12:59 PM
Jun 2017

How do you republicans live with yourselves? How do you look in the mirror? How do you face the people who elected you?

There is a difference between government and business. You can't run a business like you'd run the government and you can't run the government like it is a business. Businesses are enterprises set up to enrich a person. Government is set up to keep a country running. Businesses need to watch the bottom line. Governments are not for profit. You republicans either don't know that or you forgot. Americans want affordable healthcare. You are failing the people who voted for you. And you don't care that you failed them. Is this going to be the same kind of situation for you? You were against gay rights until your relative came out, and then boy, did you change your mind. Had it not been that you had somebody you cared about that turned out to be gay, I have no doubt you would be voting against any kind of protection and empowering legislation. I don't have any gay loved ones, but I am AMERICAN and I believe in EQUALITY for all. It says that in the Constitution. If I were a representative, I would vote for the Constitution, not for special interests, not because my vote would benefit my loved one. As I asked, how do you live with yourself? Are you going to support whatever secret plan 13 republican men are cooking up in the back room unless one of your relatives needs help with his health care? Your selfishness makes me sick to my stomach. The derailment of our country makes me furious. If you people didn't like The Constitution of the USA, why are you even living in this country? mcconnell is a traitor to the Constitution. Anyone who supports trump is a traitor to America. If you vote yes for the travesty of a bill repealing ACA, you are just as bad as mcconnell, just as bad as trump. You won't deserve to be called an American and I hope Ohio disowns your sorry excuse of humanity.

Just vote NO.

BumRushDaShow

(128,918 posts)
18. Good
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:04 PM
Jun 2017


I found out dumbass Teabagger Toomey was on the secret committee, and since he just go re-elected, he doesn't give a shit. I know Bob Casey (our Democrat) is a "no".

bucolic_frolic

(43,148 posts)
2. 2/3 of those in nursing homes
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:25 AM
Jun 2017

Yes, that will be popular ... this is stripping money from nursing homes, residents of nursing homes, and families with
assets with loved ones in nursing homes. No inheritance tax ... no inheritance!! Problem solved.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
4. When I was much younger
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:30 AM
Jun 2017

and we would visit aunts and uncles, they often had a room on the ground floor of the house for the dying relative. Trump supporters, that's happening to you very soon. But now we don't have anyone around to help care for the elderly because everyone's working. That will be so popular...

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
19. My great aunt and grandmother shared a room on the ground floor
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:33 PM
Jun 2017

My great aunt had had a stroke and was diagnosed with liver cancer, given weeks to live when she moved to my Gram's home, where we all lived. She ended up living for 13 years, and boy was that fun. I was 7 when it all started. While all the adults, such as my Gram, Dad, and Mom, and the older sibs worked at our grocery store, I stayed home to watch Aunt Bess, who was impaired to say the least. At the same time in my family's life, my older brother and my aunt were killed in a car accident. Bobby lived overnight, in ICU, and my parents didn't have health insurance. Six months after his death, my little brother was diagnosed Legg Perthes and he spent 29 months in traction at Rainbow Children's Hospital in Cleveland. He came home when my parents couldn't afford the cost and spent another 29 months in traction at home, in a bed in the living room. Less than 2 years later, my sister was diagnosed with scoliosis and spent 6 weeks at University Hospital in Cleveland and 9 months at home in a body cast in a bed in the dining room. During the worst of it all, my mom went to see him everyday, worked at the store, took care of Aunt Bess, my sister, and Dad became a full-blown alcoholic. Nobody signs up for this kind of crap, and our family didn't survive it.

This happened. They didn't qualify for any kind of help because Dad earned too much. They didn't have health insurance, because who in the hell gets hit with those kinds of disasters and diseases? And even if our family story is horrible, things like this happen to families every single day and it is horrible for them and sometimes, people NEED HELP. I can't even imagine how a modern family will handle caring for a loved one who needs special care.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
3. Looks like the effects are delayed release
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jun 2017

The really horrible stuff doesn't kick in till several years down the line.

So the Repugs will try to dodge responsibility for it. They don't wait people to immediately lose their healthcare and blame them.

 

rtracey

(2,062 posts)
7. and
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:34 AM
Jun 2017

and will the democrats jump on this.... sorry , but every democrat should right NOW be setting up town hall meetings in every state in this country. Get this shit out into the public NOW.... not after breakfast, not tomorrow, NOW.....

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
9. I hope the Dems raise hell
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 10:40 AM
Jun 2017

We are on our way to Hell. Middle class people that don't think this affects them, what about Grandma?

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
11. There are enough of US right now.
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:12 AM
Jun 2017

I'm 70 years old right now. Don't think I'm close to needing assisted living or a nursing home yet, but I can certainly see the day coming.

I turned one of my sons from a moderate Republican to a shrieking liberal just by telling him that if the Republican version guts Medicaid, he'll be looking at us moving in with him and having him support us in a few years. (Yeah, I'm that mean.)

TryLogic

(1,723 posts)
12. It is pretty obvious why they didn't know what was in it:
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:19 AM
Jun 2017

It has to have written by insurance industry lawyers.

cisco man

(26 posts)
20. and to all of those who didn't vote, et al...
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 02:20 PM
Jun 2017

Elections have consequences- THIS should be our rallying cry, over & over again!!! I remember hearing in the news that many just didn't think the republicans & trump could get away with much....oh how wrong they are. BIG consequences!!!!

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