AP analysis shows how gerrymandering benefited GOP in 2016
Source: AP
55 mins ago
The 2016 presidential contest was awash with charges that the fix was in: ...........................
............................................. The result, according to an Associated Press analysis: Republicans had a real advantage.
The AP scrutinized the outcomes of all 435 U.S. House races and about 4,700 state House and Assembly seats ....................
The analysis found four times as many states with Republican-skewed state House or Assembly districts than Democratic ones. Among the two dozen most populated states that determine the vast majority of Congress, there were nearly three times as many with Republican-tilted U.S. House districts.
Traditional battlegrounds such as Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida and Virginia were among those with significant Republican advantages ...................................
The AP analysis also found that Republicans won as many as 22 additional U.S. House seats over what would have been expected based on the average vote share in congressional districts across the country. That helped provide the GOP with a comfortable majority that stood at 241-194 over Democrats after the 2016 elections a 10 percentage point margin in seats, even though Republican candidates received just 1 percentage point more total votes nationwide.................................
Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ap-analysis-shows-how-gerrymandering-benefited-gop-in-2016/ar-BBD6jue
YUP-the fix was in!!
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FILE - In this Tuesday, Feb. 16, 2016 file photo, Republican state Sens. Dan Soucek, left, and Brent Jackson, right, review historical maps during The Senate Redistricting Committee for the 2016 Extra Session in the Legislative Office Building at the N.C. General Assembly, in Raleigh, N.C. An Associated Press analysis, using a new statistical method of calculating partisan advantage, finds traditional battlegrounds such as Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida and Virginia were among those with significant Republican advantages in their U.S. or state House races in 2016. (Corey Lowenstein/The News & Observer, File via AP)
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no_hypocrisy
(46,088 posts)republicans and democrats, or failing that, Independents?
underpants
(182,788 posts)If you have a majority in the state legislature you can pretty much decide for yourself. There are lots of pros and databases on both sides that are brought in.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)payers pay the bill.
ewagner
(18,964 posts)I was on the County Board Committee that was in charge of redistricting the local county board districts. I can tell you with 100% certainty that because of the mix of Repubs and Dems on that allegedly non-partisan committee, there was absolutely no collusion on that level..
AFTER WE FINISHED....the State Legislature came up with their congressional/legislative MAP FROM HELL and in order to keep supervisory/aldermanic districts from cutting across two or more legislative/congressional districts we had to redraw the lines significantly.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)I live in WA, and we have rules about how to do it. It involves both major parties and a judge, so our districts are relatively balanced.
But like it was said above, it depends on the states.
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)Purging voter rolls, making it hard to register, long lines at polling places, any difficulty determining your polling place, all these are ways to suppress the working class vote. And the GOP uses all of these methods.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)That means winning state Legislatures and Governorships and then permanently de-politicizing it as a TOP PRIORITY.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)The races in key states for Governor next year will decide the fate of the Democratic Party. I am not being overly dramatic here either...
IF we fail to take back state houses in 2018, it is game, set, match GOP. The census is already in terrible shape from funding and organizing. It is going to be a Trumpian disaster if nothing is done... The lack of an accurate census and a lack of state-level ability to fight the GOP gerrymandered maps we have now will add to the catastrophic loss of the SCOTUS and the near-permanent 6-3 (or worse) split we will have by 2018.
It may seriously be time to start working on a Constitutional Congress and a complete rebuild of the government across all levels...this ship is mortally wounded and instead of 2 parties trying to salvage the ship, we have one kicking holes in the bailing buckets...
kristopher
(29,798 posts)"a Constitutional Congress and a complete rebuild of the government across all levels"
They want to enshrine corporate control of the US economy into the Constitution.
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)which is the legalized bribery allowed by our corrupt campaign finance system.
We need Publicly Funded Elections!
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)politicians can take bribes in secret. The trick is to limit spending and banning political ads from PACs and other outside interests. When Republicans use the First Amendment free speech clause ask them if it's free why do they need all that money.
underpants
(182,788 posts)It was a few years ago 9-2 I think.
Virginia flipped to Obama in 2008 as he won the state by almost the same % as W. Virginia has voted for the Dem nominee in 3 straight elections - Kaine being the VP nominee helped.
Dems have won the last 4 Senate races Warner (barely won in 2014) Kaine and Webb
But yet the Congressional breakdown is 7-4. McEachin was elected after courts found Bobby Scott's district was clearly used to toss Dem voting areas out of Republican districts.
underpants
(182,788 posts)McDonnell was an almost perfect candidate. The first time I saw one of his ads I knew there almost no way of beating him.
Virginia votes the year AFTER Presidential races too.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Obama said, the local gerrymandering is something he would work on soon as he was done as president. Along with focus on LOCAL politics. And he is
Ds and Ds running for elections all spent to much time going after anything tabloid-trump and not much time spent on REPUBLICANS dirty cheating.
HelenWheels
(2,284 posts)I live in WI's 7th district which has been Democratic for decades. The reason is we had a great Congressman David Obey who won election for 40 years. He retired, Scott Walker won the governorship and the fix was in.
The 7th district has been so gerrymandered we can not get rid of our moron Cong. Sean Duffy. Our state registered many more Democratic votes but we have very few Dem. representatives elected. We had one great candidate for the 7th a few years ago and they gerrymandered the area where he lived so his entire neighborhood was removed from the 7th. They very nicely drew the border right to his house--sarcasm here.
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)They were still riding high, rightfully so, from the 2008 elections. A group of Republicans introduced a bill to have the new districts done by a board of bipartisan committee.
The Dems, feeling overconfident, never dreamed they would be out of power two short years later.
When the 2010 elections were over the Republicans were in charge of all parts of Wisconsin government for the first time in forever, and they used it to their full advantage.
I am sure there are a few Democrats that wish they could go back in time.
In other words, be careful what you wish for, because in politics, it almost always swings back to the other party!
LeftInTX
(25,300 posts)I hope this doesn't hurt the court case.
Maybe it will help it though.
(Hard to read tea leaves in these cases)
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)It's not who drew the districts that is being litigated, just the outcome.
I was just pointing out that all of the Wisconsin nightmare could have been avoided with a little foresight.
And in the end we have to remember that the Republicans did take control before the new districts were drawn.
Wisconsin is largely rural and more conservative, the liberals dominate the two most populous areas of the state, Madison and Milwaukee, but outside that it pretty much leans right.
vi5
(13,305 posts)Far too many stories over the past 10 years or so start out with those words.
Yay team!
Chicago1980
(1,968 posts)Lazy ass democrats and liberals who didn't get the fuck out to vote during the 2010 midterms. Bitching and moaning about what Obama wasn't doing and staying home pouting in "protest".
We're our own worst enemy.
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Gerrymandering is something that will beat us every time, because it fixes the system to defeat the Democratic Party.
I call it the gift that keeps on giving.
Gerrymandering must be stopped and the districts must be redrawn immediately. The GOP has been sly and under-handed about this while we were lazy and not paying attention.
The GOP says something like "Well the Democrats did it first" and yes that's probably true. However it happened more than 50 years ago when districts were redrawn to account for population changes during the baby-boom era, black migration to cities, and so forth. The GOP has done it maliciously in the last 10 years for the express purpose of cheating and stealing the elections.
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,060 posts)These are the biggest issues of our time. Our Democracy has been compromised.
Dems represent the majority and they do not have power. Between voter suppression and gerrymandering Dems should have an easy 5% majority in that House. It's worse at the state level.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Why else would repukes dominate Congress and the state Legislature despite Democrats getting more votes in statewide races?
Most legislative and Congressional districts make it impossible for Democrats even to come close to winning, let alone win, rural districts, while 4 of 5 Democratic districts end up in 75-90% of voters electing the few Dems who do.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)KPN
(15,643 posts)out of 'em?
I sure wish there was enough anger about this crap that millions upon millions would place actually doing something real and tangible about it above everything else in their lives priority-wise. Count me in if something like this ever gains traction. I'll fucking drive there from Oregon! Anyone need a ride?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)And you will have a 20 seat Dem majority I expect.
dae
(3,396 posts)laws, closing polls in predominantly minority areas, etc.
vi5
(13,305 posts)...and didn't have any opportunity to do this to balance things out in blue states.
But hey, wouldn't want to be uncivil or lower ourselves to their level.
At least we have our dignity and integrity.
andym
(5,443 posts)from 194 Democrat/241 GOP. They would still control the House, but by the barest of threads. The power of gerrymandering-- too bad that gerrymandering is self supporting-- because the state districts are also gerrymandered, meaning the GOP tends to stay in power in the legislatures that draw up the districts.
The Wizard
(12,545 posts)the current system and replace it with a Parliamentary system wherein the legislature is determined by the percentage of votes each party gets.
Ptah
(33,028 posts)<snip>
Historically, Arizona's legislature has had control over the redistricting
process. However, Proposition 106, passed in 2000, delegated the power
to draw congressional and legislative boundaries to a bipartisan
independent commission. The Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission
(AIRC) comprises two Democrats, two Republicans, and one independent chair.
County and local redistricting, which normally takes place along the same
timeline as congressional and legislative redistricting, is carried out by the
individual county and local governments rather than the AIRC.
<snip>
The AIRC was created when voters approved Proposition 106 in 2000,
56.1 percent to 43.9 percent. Proposition 106 amended the Arizona
Constitution to create a bipartisan commission independent of the state
legislature that would be tasked with redrawing congressional and legislative
lines following the decennial census. The commission's mandate is to draw
districts considering six factors and explicitly omitting from consideration a
seventh factor. The six criteria the commission attempts to satisfy,
in descending order of importance, are:
that they are in compliance with the U.S. Constitution and the Voting Rights Act,
that districts are roughly equal in population,
that they appear compact and contiguous,
that they respect communities of interest,
that they incorporate visible geographic features; city, town, and county boundaries;
and undivided census tracts;
and that they are electorally competitive as long as the aforementioned criteria are satisfied
<snip>
The Arizona Legislature was so confident that it would prevail in the U.S.
Supreme Court that it even hired a firm to redraw the congressional
district maps without waiting for the Court to make its decision.
On June 29, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the legislature's
argument in Arizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting
Commission.[29] The Court held the term "legislature" in the Elections Clause
could be read broadly to mean "the power that makes laws," not just the
two representative houses. Because Arizona Constitution granted voters exactly
"the power that makes laws," the voters were not prohibited from
adopting laws governing redistricting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistricting_in_Arizona