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47of74

(18,470 posts)
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:38 PM Jul 2017

Ivanka Trump mocked after misquoting Albert Einstein on Twitter

Source: The Independent

First daughter Ivanka Trump has been mocked on social media after a tweet she wrote four years ago misquoting Albert Einstein resurfaced over the weekend.

The tweet, written in June 2013, attributed the quote “If the facts don’t fit the theory, change the facts” to the famed physicist.

The only problem? Einstein never actually said that.

Twitter users picked up on the misquote, with some poking fun at the irony of such a mistake, while others questioned whether Ms Trump might actually be mocking the notion of changing facts herself.

Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ivanka-trump-albert-einstein-donald-trump-us-twitter-social-media-a7856431.html



Here's the tweet in question....




Yo, Ivanka. That might work in the Faux Spews Bizarro World, but not in reality. Regardless of what the orange idiot says.
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Ivanka Trump mocked after misquoting Albert Einstein on Twitter (Original Post) 47of74 Jul 2017 OP
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. dalton99a Jul 2017 #1
Maybe or maybe not. OnlinePoker Jul 2017 #9
... or Andy Rooney. Towlie Jul 2017 #20
Exactly. Which is why I dont get so worked up over stuff like this. Happens all the time. 7962 Jul 2017 #28
Wait until she says that Einstein "architected his theory of relativity"!!!!! George II Jul 2017 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jul 2017 #4
Maybe she should quit quoting without checking - she credited Emma Watson with Hillel's famous karynnj Jul 2017 #3
vannie, dahhhhhhling, we know you have the iq of lint, so there is no need to keep reminding us. niyad Jul 2017 #5
Lint? Hekate Jul 2017 #16
I know, that is probably an insult to lint! niyad Jul 2017 #18
DUzy. ♡ nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2017 #23
Leave lint alone! dchill Jul 2017 #39
Lint Anti-Defamation League on line 1... nt SchrodingersCatbox Jul 2017 #40
tell them I am out to lunch--permanently!! niyad Jul 2017 #41
As if AE would say something so stupid... JenniferJuniper Jul 2017 #6
Leave poor Albert Einstein out of this FakeNoose Jul 2017 #7
Doggone! Now we have to mistrust the quote. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #30
She expects bigger and better from Albert Einstein in the future left-of-center2012 Jul 2017 #8
"Everybody party down now with festive Champagne Popsicles." I. Vanka (R) Achilleaze Jul 2017 #10
Once again Butterflylady Jul 2017 #11
apples on the ground turn rotten in time ............ King of Light Angry Dragon Jul 2017 #17
it's a fun thread barbtries Jul 2017 #12
"You had me at 'hello'" - Genghis Khan hatrack Jul 2017 #13
lol barbtries Jul 2017 #14
That crowd just loves their alt-facts, don't they? lark Jul 2017 #15
You can't prove that someone never said something. Towlie Jul 2017 #19
Socrates talked about the youth not respecting their elders - or so the lore goes. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #31
Einstein DID say .. ananda Jul 2017 #21
Here's another statement falsely attributed to Einstein: Lionel Mandrake Jul 2017 #22
No they don't Sanity Claws Jul 2017 #27
Well yeah, they kinda do, Lionel Mandrake Jul 2017 #32
Even if he made that verbose statement, that doesn't prove he didn't also say the shorter version. Towlie Jul 2017 #34
True, Lionel Mandrake Jul 2017 #36
Right! That's exactly the point I made above Towlie Jul 2017 #37
Dolt 45 says, he himself, said it. eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2017 #24
Last time I checked, Einstein didn't have theories about getting away with fraud & high treason. Crowman2009 Jul 2017 #25
My goodness. She is ignorant Sanity Claws Jul 2017 #26
Sounds like the way her dad thinks and also something he would say... magicarpet Jul 2017 #29
Does Not Seem Like Something a Mathematician Would Say erpowers Jul 2017 #33
Agreed. Of course Einstein would never have seriously said that! Towlie Jul 2017 #35
I am more disturbed that she thinks the sentiment of that quote is a good one to restate xor Jul 2017 #38

dalton99a

(81,673 posts)
1. Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:40 PM
Jul 2017

Einstein did say that

OnlinePoker

(5,729 posts)
9. Maybe or maybe not.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 02:07 PM
Jul 2017

The author who first attributed it, Frederick S Perls, never originally said it that way, nor did he say it was Einstein, just "a great astronomer". He kept changing the quote as time went along.

http://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/04/universe-einstein/

I think it's a matter of people writing something clever and then wanting to give it an air of authenticity by linking it with a famous name, be it Einstein or Twain.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
28. Exactly. Which is why I dont get so worked up over stuff like this. Happens all the time.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 04:19 PM
Jul 2017

I've seen learned people mistakingly attribute quotes all the time. The internet doesnt help matters
But at this point if any Trump gets a pimple its going to get its own headline!

Response to George II (Reply #2)

karynnj

(59,508 posts)
3. Maybe she should quit quoting without checking - she credited Emma Watson with Hillel's famous
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jul 2017

words -- suggesting her instruction when converting to Judaism was not all that comprehensive.

http://forward.com/schmooze/349609/ivanka-trump-quotes-hillel-the-elder-credits-emma-watson-by-mistake/

niyad

(113,771 posts)
5. vannie, dahhhhhhling, we know you have the iq of lint, so there is no need to keep reminding us.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 01:56 PM
Jul 2017

(complicit, anyone???)

niyad

(113,771 posts)
18. I know, that is probably an insult to lint!
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:06 PM
Jul 2017

from a line in a mystery read many years ago, "if his iq were three points higher, he would be lint"

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
10. "Everybody party down now with festive Champagne Popsicles." I. Vanka (R)
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 02:08 PM
Jul 2017

"The Hell with facts and truth and honesty and all that shit. We are republicans. Let's all go buy some new designer handbags and shoes, and suck up some more yumilicious Champagne Popsicles to honor the men and women who actually served America, unlike my Five-Time Draft-Dodgin Daddy. Ha ha." - I. Vanka

hatrack

(59,599 posts)
13. "You had me at 'hello'" - Genghis Khan
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 02:23 PM
Jul 2017

"Ooh I want to dance with somebody
Ooh I want to feel the heat with somebody" - Mother Teresa

Towlie

(5,332 posts)
19. You can't prove that someone never said something.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:21 PM
Jul 2017

Except in unusual cases, the most you can do is state that there's no evidence that someone said something. Any claim that a person did say something at some unspecified time or in unspecified circumstances during their lifetime is, by it's very nature, non-falsifiable.

keithbvadu2

(37,008 posts)
31. Socrates talked about the youth not respecting their elders - or so the lore goes.
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 08:28 PM
Jul 2017

Socrates talked about the youth not respecting their elders - or so the lore goes.

I tried to track it down and there is no actual proof that he said it.

And he said it during his lifetime, or decades before he was born or decades after he died.

Quotes get a little flexible as time goes on.

ananda

(28,891 posts)
21. Einstein DID say ..
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:41 PM
Jul 2017

.. We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking
we used when creating them.

.. Whoever is careless with truth in small matters cannot
be trusted with important matters.

and

.. Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.


Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
22. Here's another statement falsely attributed to Einstein:
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 03:43 PM
Jul 2017

“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.”

What Einstein actually said (in 1933) is the following:

"It can scarcely be denied that the supreme goal of all theory is to make the irreducible basic elements as simple and as few as possible without having to surrender the adequate representation of a single datum of experience."

The true and false quotations express approximately the same idea.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
32. Well yeah, they kinda do,
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:07 PM
Jul 2017

although I admit the false quote is a little too simple, just like a bad theory.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,076 posts)
36. True,
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:31 PM
Jul 2017

but there is no evidence that Einstein made the shorter statement. He probably didn't do so in public, since practically everything he said in public after 1919 is documented somewhere.

Sanity Claws

(21,863 posts)
26. My goodness. She is ignorant
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 04:17 PM
Jul 2017

If she could think that Einstein would say that, it is obvious that she knows nothing about him.

magicarpet

(14,202 posts)
29. Sounds like the way her dad thinks and also something he would say...
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 05:00 PM
Jul 2017

.... maybe Trump actually did say this and maybe often. But to give this idea and statement legitimacy and credence Vanka attributed it to Albert Einstein.

As usual with any Trump ~™Vanka failed to realize the absurdity of claiming Einstein said it because the statement is so incoherent, absurd, demonstrably incorrect. But as with any Trump - style, form and fashion supersedes substance or factually correct knowledge.

Isn't that a surprise

<<<<<??<<<<<

Ivanka says,

"Now where is my hair spray" ?
Different gender ~ but same airhead as her brothers and dad - Oy - Oy - Oy.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
33. Does Not Seem Like Something a Mathematician Would Say
Mon Jul 24, 2017, 11:48 PM
Jul 2017

That does not seem like a quote that would come from a Mathematician. It seems like it would have been the opposite if it was said by Albert Einstein, or anyone in the Math or Science field. I do believe Math and Science are based on facts. You have to change your theory if the facts do not fit your theory. I do not know why she would think a Scientist or Mathematician would say one should change the facts if they do not fit the theory. If you change your facts to fit your theory you just end up with a incorrect theory.

Towlie

(5,332 posts)
35. Agreed. Of course Einstein would never have seriously said that!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 10:10 AM
Jul 2017

No scientist would say that unless it was meant as sarcasm.

xor

(1,204 posts)
38. I am more disturbed that she thinks the sentiment of that quote is a good one to restate
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jul 2017

regardless of who she thinks said it.

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