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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:00 PM Jul 2017

GOP House Science Chair: Melting Arctic Sea Ice A Win For The Earth

Source: Talking Points Memo




By CAITLIN MACNEAL Published JULY 25, 2017 11:26 AM

Rep. Lamar Smith (R-TX), noted climate change denier and chair of the House Science Committee, on Monday penned an eyebrow-raising op-ed that argued there are “benefits” to a changing climate.

“The benefits of a changing climate are often ignored and under-researched. Our climate is too complex and the consequences of misguided policies too harsh to discount the positive effects of carbon enrichment,” Smith wrote in an op-ed for The Daily Signal, a website run by the conservative Heritage Foundation. Smith acknowledged that the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is increasing and argued that it would help plant growth and farming. He also posited that sea ice melting in the Arctic would open up new shipping routes, spinning ice melt as a positive change for the Earth.

“The use of fossil fuels and the byproducts of carbon enrichment play a large role in advancing the quality of human life by increasing food production to feed our growing population, stimulating the economy, and alleviating poverty,” he wrote. “Bad deals like the Paris Agreement would cost the U.S. billions of dollars, a loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs, and have no discernible impact on global temperatures.”

Smith, as chair of the House Science Committee, has led a crusade against climate scientists, in particular targeting a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration study in 2015. He has also gone after environmental groups and state attorneys general over investigations into ExxonMobil’s climate change denialism.

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GOP House Science Chair: Melting Arctic Sea Ice A Win For The Earth (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
the positive effects of carbon enrichment virtualobserver Jul 2017 #1
What a dumbass. Chipper Chat Jul 2017 #2
Well, technically Arctic polar ice is already floating. longship Jul 2017 #19
"carbon enrichment"??? WTF kind of Newspeak is that! procon Jul 2017 #3
This +1000 diva77 Jul 2017 #15
Glioblastoma...nothing more than "brain enhancement" too... Moostache Jul 2017 #28
how about nykym Jul 2017 #29
lying as best as he can to tell us that our house burning down is a good thing! nt Javaman Jul 2017 #4
No. The land up there is not necessarily arable, and what about the indigenous people up there? ck4829 Jul 2017 #5
I swear, where did they dig up this pond scum pretending to be a human being? lark Jul 2017 #6
Because bluevoter4life Jul 2017 #8
drumpf has properties in NY, NJ, MD (I think) and FL. lark Jul 2017 #13
Well, it's not like we're going to turn the Earth into the hellscape of Venus tomorrow, right? haele Jul 2017 #7
As a plus, we'd all get to wear cool space suits like the cover of that Heinlein book. byronius Jul 2017 #9
Reads like satire. volstork Jul 2017 #10
Wha....? Grins Jul 2017 #11
the climate skeptic cycle 0rganism Jul 2017 #21
Never send a House Rep to do a scientist's job. sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #12
Not surprised... Anti-intellectualism has been in vogue Blue_Tires Jul 2017 #14
Titanic Passengers: Happy for extra ice. forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #16
And long droughts and dust bowls are wins for??? Vogon_Glory Jul 2017 #17
Google positive effects of carbon enrichment benld74 Jul 2017 #18
oh yes our atlantic and pacific fishing fleets love the 'win' as all the fish, lobsters moved toward Sunlei Jul 2017 #20
hey dumbass, go say that to the good citizens of Miami Beach.... steve2470 Jul 2017 #22
Comedian. truthisfreedom Jul 2017 #23
Carbon enrichment. Really. ismnotwasm Jul 2017 #24
We laugh at this guy, but I wonder if this is what the republican's stance on climate change xor Jul 2017 #25
Where did all of these ignorant people came from, and how did they get in power? Freethinker65 Jul 2017 #26
some old repuke playbook Skittles Jul 2017 #27

longship

(40,416 posts)
19. Well, technically Arctic polar ice is already floating.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:13 PM
Jul 2017

So it melting would have little effect on sea level. Only land-based ice melting substantially raises sea level.

The real problem with melting Arctic ice is the change in albedo, a positive feedback effect. Ice reflects sunlight back into space, including infrared. The ocean absorbs proportionally more infrared, making the planet warmer and, due to expansion, increases sea level a bit.

The real worrisome Arctic ice is on Greenland.

I know people already know this. Just outlining the science for thread readers.

But this guy is indeed a dumbass!

procon

(15,805 posts)
3. "carbon enrichment"??? WTF kind of Newspeak is that!
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:15 PM
Jul 2017

Is it something like a tornado would be called a "wind enrichment".
A flood then becomes a "water enrichment".
A wildfire would be called a "rapid oxidation enrichment".
A toxic spill is a "chemical enrichment".

This man is so stupid it hurts my eyes to read his craziness.





Moostache

(9,895 posts)
28. Glioblastoma...nothing more than "brain enhancement" too...
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 02:22 PM
Jul 2017

These assholes should be made an example of...not by harming them, but by immortalizing their stupidity and absolute slavish devotion to disinformation at the behest of their pay masters...

I want to see Bronzed statues of these people....Inahofe, "Lord" Monckton, Trump, this shit heel....and I want a Hall of Fame for liars and assholes...the inaugural class is already full, so we may need an immediate expansion...any one got a good parcel of land to donate to the cause?

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
5. No. The land up there is not necessarily arable, and what about the indigenous people up there?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:30 PM
Jul 2017

Inuit, Siberians, etc.?

What about their ways of life? This is genocide for them.

lark

(23,097 posts)
6. I swear, where did they dig up this pond scum pretending to be a human being?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:31 PM
Jul 2017

What about flooding, moron? Parts of Miami already flood every day! Most of the coastal cities in FL are predicted to be under water when the icebergs melt, along with big parts of the East Coast as well. NO, gone! Those are places where millions and millions of people live. Tell me, asswipe, how these are positive things!

bluevoter4life

(787 posts)
8. Because
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:53 PM
Jul 2017

It kills or displaces all those "big-gummit" liberals. Many coastal areas are solidly Democrat.

lark

(23,097 posts)
13. drumpf has properties in NY, NJ, MD (I think) and FL.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:10 PM
Jul 2017

If he had an oz. of brains, he'd be trying to protect them from harm.

haele

(12,649 posts)
7. Well, it's not like we're going to turn the Earth into the hellscape of Venus tomorrow, right?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:32 PM
Jul 2017

Venus has a problem with the effect of run-away greenhouse gasses, but it took billions of years to get that way, so we'll be okay, and our immediate grandkids will be okay, and that's all that matters - the people we know right now.

This is what I've heard from GOP, Libertarians, and other Evilangelical "Pragmatic Science Skeptics" -
So, we'll lose some nice scenery, and half the species on earth before we as individuals die. But it's more important we get the money and power to do what we want right now.
Technology will take care of the future generations. And we've got lots of pictures and video, and some genetic samples, so we can always remake what we lost if we want to.



Haele

byronius

(7,394 posts)
9. As a plus, we'd all get to wear cool space suits like the cover of that Heinlein book.
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 12:56 PM
Jul 2017

And new species! Right out of the melting tundra! Maybe a Tyrannosaur or something!

Grins

(7,217 posts)
11. Wha....?
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 01:00 PM
Jul 2017
“The benefits of a changing climate are often ignored and under-researched."

Waitaminute! How can something that you deny exists have benefits?

0rganism

(23,944 posts)
21. the climate skeptic cycle
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:31 PM
Jul 2017

1. Global warming isn't happening
2. Global warming is happening but it's not man-made
3. Global warming will be good for our environment <--(where the esteemed Congresscritter is now)
4. Global warming isn't happening! I never said any of that other stuff! (rinse and repeat until underwater *glub glub*)

benld74

(9,904 posts)
18. Google positive effects of carbon enrichment
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 02:32 PM
Jul 2017

and you get back 3 pages of hits

ALL bat shit crazzzy shit like Einstein spouts in his article

Another, though interesting flounts the ability to grow and test plants
OUTSIDE of labratory because?

the CO2 outside is higher!!!!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. oh yes our atlantic and pacific fishing fleets love the 'win' as all the fish, lobsters moved toward
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:25 PM
Jul 2017

Canadas fishing fleets. Even further north the open seas are trawled dry by Russia and China.

jumping carp, lion fish, boa constrictors, pigeons, german rats and English starlings- invasive species take over for hungry americans

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
22. hey dumbass, go say that to the good citizens of Miami Beach....
Tue Jul 25, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jul 2017

They live with higher sea levels every day, street flooding on many days. Other east coast communities have the same problem.

I despair for our democracy some days.

xor

(1,204 posts)
25. We laugh at this guy, but I wonder if this is what the republican's stance on climate change
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 02:17 PM
Jul 2017

is going to morph into as it becomes more and more difficult to deny the effects of it.

Skittles

(153,154 posts)
27. some old repuke playbook
Wed Jul 26, 2017, 02:21 PM
Jul 2017

deny, deny, deny, then when the evidence is overwhelming: OK yeah but IT'S NOT SUCH A BAD THING

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