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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:36 AM Aug 2017

President Trump Signs Russia Sanctions Bill, White House Official Says

Source: Bloomberg

President Trump has signed legislation that prevents the president from acting unilaterally to remove certain sanctions on Russia and adds sanctions against Russia, Iran and North Korea, a White House official tells Bloomberg News.

Also on Twitter:




Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-02/president-trump-signs-russia-sanctions-bill-white-house-official-says
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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Lol. We can probably assume the silly buffoon was not feeling
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:11 AM
Aug 2017

like kind of the world "or something" at that moment. It might also be that Kelly wanted as little witness to any tantrums as possible.

 

Doug the Dem

(1,297 posts)
15. Yeah, where's the Self-Important Pomp & Circum---Wait. I think I Know!
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 12:09 PM
Aug 2017

He's scared shitless that Vladdy might stop loving him. Sad.

lark

(23,097 posts)
2. I want to see his "statement".
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:43 AM
Aug 2017

Bush signed things then put in signing statements basically saying he wouldn't do what he said he'd do. What drumpf said is very important because you know he wants to remove sanctions on Russia as one of his top imperatives, right after increasing his own $ by codifying his ability to pay no taxes.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Trumps concerns cover four areas
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:49 AM
Aug 2017
Trump’s statement doesn’t signal any intent to bypass or circumvent aspects of the law. Instead, the president indicates he intends for his administration to carry out the law in a way consistent with his constitutional authority, language that leaves open some room for interpretation of how the law is executed.

Trump’s concerns cover four areas: encroachment on executive authority, unintentional harm to U.S. companies and business, as well as U.S. international partners, and limits on the flexibility of the administration to act in concert with allies in dealing with Russia.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-08-02/trump-is-said-to-add-concerns-in-signing-russia-sanctions-law

lark

(23,097 posts)
7. Thanks!
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:07 AM
Aug 2017

Of course the criminal fraud and traitor will flaunt the law if he thinks he can profit by that and this is what his attorneys had him add as justification. I'd be very surprised if this is the last time his ability to remove sanctions from Russia is an issue, he can never leave well enough alone.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
18. Interpretation:
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 01:00 PM
Aug 2017

1. Encroachment on executive authority

ie..He does not like that he can't have dictatorial veto power to kill at least some of the sanctions for Putie.

2. Unintentional harm to U.S. companies and business, as well as U.S. international partners

ie..Harm to HIS companies and Russian money laundering organizations that he deals with

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. "But this doesn't apply to me." I remember W's unethical games too.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:12 AM
Aug 2017

Wouldn't work on this--it's written specifically to limit the president's unilateral power.

sdfernando

(4,935 posts)
3. IMO Signing Statements are illegal
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:49 AM
Aug 2017

Congress has sent the President a Bill. The President cannot change legislation. He can sign, VETO, or let it pass unsigned. If he doesn't like provisions is the Bill he can either VETO or sign and fight the provisions he doesn't like/want in court.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
10. Signing statements do not change the legislation in any way.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:11 AM
Aug 2017

I would agree they have been over-used since Reagan went statement happy, but they don't carry the weight of law. Just commentary expressing the president's view of the law done for any number of reasons.

ETA: Pachamama is most likely correct. It's Trump's love letter to Putin that he's doing it under duress and hopes Vlad doesn't break up with him as a consequence.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
6. This is a clear signal to Putin that Trump does not agree. Everything Trump does shows
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 10:58 AM
Aug 2017

he is subservient to Putin. Why is this? What has Putin got on Trump? Or has Trump been brainwashed?

lark

(23,097 posts)
11. True.
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:12 AM
Aug 2017

He is totally Putin's tool. Kompromat is what I think they call it, meaning compromising information that is used for blackmail purposes. That's the stick. Drumpf also has huge loans with Russian banks and has done big business in the past laundering the Russian mafia's stolen $ with way overpaying for his properties - cancelling the loans and restarting the money laundering, aka them paying 20-40x the price of a piece of Drumpf owned property/house. Either or both of those is most likely the carrot.

Doodley

(9,088 posts)
13. With the number of investigators and lawyers on Trump's case, and the number of people who can't
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:20 AM
Aug 2017

wait to see him out of office, that information should come to light. And then, Trump will give a testimony under oath, at which time it will all be over.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
8. A signing statement?? Did it go something like this:
Wed Aug 2, 2017, 11:07 AM
Aug 2017

Oh great Czar and master Putin....

I am not worthy of your friendship....I hope you can forgive me for signing these forced sanctions that the evil democrats and dis-loyal Republicans made me sign....

I know I have promised to do a lot of things for you as re-payment and thanks for all the money and the nice gig I have right now that I wouldn't have without your help and assistance. It has been allowing me and my family to enjoy vast amounts of privilege, connections and wealth coming to us and our family business. Of course one drawback is having to be living in a dump in the swamp of DC amongst all those non-white people, but the good news is that I have access to Air Force One and can go at any time to my golf club and other properties that are far nicer, paid for by the American Taxpayer. Your generosity is not forgotten. I am so honored to call you my friend and mentor.

I really really had no choice to sign this terrible bill....if I had not signed it, the Fake News and the Witch Hunt would have gone nuclear on me...besides, they had a veto-proof majority on it, so there was no way to prevent it. I will continue to try hard to work on "adoptions" and have this Magnitsky idiocy rescinded so that you and other great Russian Billionaires can continue to funnel and launder your money through the US and my properties and other ways that have allowed you to hide the money. Don't worry, I am sure in your brilliance, you will come up with something I can do that will please you and maybe even some cool distraction that allows me to use my authority as Commander in Chief. I actually wanted to meanwhile thank you for sending home all those American Diplomats from Russia. They are probably all leftovers from Obama and so it also helps me in my effort to reduce and dismantle the State Department. I did however have your buddy Rex announce that we will no longer include democracy as part of our official mission. Isn't that great? We thought this would please you...

I really wish that I could violate human rights like you do. I gave a great speech to police and law enforcement though this week....told them it shouldn't matter if they slam the heads of people they arrest. I so wish in US we had Gulags like you do and no due process. It would make things so much easier for me to get things done.

With much love to Russia and you my great master....

xoxo

Comrade Trumpsky

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