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riversedge

(70,454 posts)
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:33 PM Aug 2017

Pro-Trump demonstrators, counter-protesters rally in downtown Seattle

Source: seattletimes

Originally published August 13, 2017 at 12:26 pm Updated August 13, 2017 at 2:26 pm




Tae Phoenix, a singer-songwriter and activist, hands out signs as people gather for Solidarity Against Hate, a counter-protest to the Freedom Rally group, at Denny Park in Seattle Sunday August 13, 2017. (Bettina Hansen / The Seattle Times)

After a white supremacist rally turned violent Saturday in Virginia, the pro-Trump Patriot Prayer group and counter-protesters will hold opposing demonstrations in downtown Seattle Sunday.


LIVE UPDATES:

2:20 p.m. What was first billed as a anti-fascist rally at Denny Park didnt stay in one place to rally for very long; the protesters almost immediately started moving toward the pro-Trump patriot and prayer gathering at Westlake Park, just a few blocks to the northeast. Police reported stopping people carrying shields and backpacks, and police moved to cut them off. Officers spritzed several protesters with pepper spray. There were lots of people wearing black, a few in masks and helmets.

The violent clashes between white supremacists and counter-protesters in Charlottesville, Va., resulting in three deaths, will be the backdrop at a pair of rallies Sunday in Seattle one a pro-Trump Prayer Rally at Westlake Park and the other, a counterprotest sponsored by so-called anti-fascists at nearby Denny Park.

The conservative pro-Trump group known as Patriot Prayer planned to march on Westlake Park as part of a so-called Freedom Rally featuring live music and speakers.

Meantime, the Seattle Chapter of the Greater Defense Committee of the Industrial Workers of the World called for a counter-rally, saying the groups associated with the prayer ralley are the same street-fighting crews that have been hopping from Vancouver, WA to Portland, OR to Seattle, WA and back again, including last Junes anti-Sharia march that led to arrests.
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Read more: http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/pro-trump-demonstrators-counter-protesters-rally-in-downtown-seattle/



Msnbc briefly reported on this a few minutes ago.









**I do not know if this is true or not.











Edit to add:

Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 1h1 hour ago

"Hey hey ho ho white supremacy's got to go" - Solidarity Against Hate group moving towards Westlake #Seattle – at Whole Foods Market


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Pro-Trump demonstrators, counter-protesters rally in downtown Seattle (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2017 OP
msnbc now--Police using tear gas ? on who riversedge Aug 2017 #1
Streets are full. riversedge Aug 2017 #2
The fascist always seem to invoke the god word and burning things, torches/crosses. RKP5637 Aug 2017 #3
Says Protesters confronting Seattle Police--but I am confused. which group is pushing forward riversedge Aug 2017 #4
"conservative pro-Trump group known as Patriot Prayer" vs the counter-protesters riversedge Aug 2017 #5
MSNBC is reporting leftwing protesters are clashing with police NobodyHere Aug 2017 #6
Yes, some reporter just said the Alt-right is being held in a park. But msnbc is showing the riversedge Aug 2017 #12
Reporter saying the Pro-trump rally is about 2 blocks away. riversedge Aug 2017 #13
I get confused too. MSNBC is covering it now. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #8
It's a nightmare. Legit counter protesters are infiltrated by masked "antifa" or "anarchists" or nolabear Aug 2017 #11
It's not like antifa is discouraged by "legit counter protesters" NobodyHere Aug 2017 #16
I really struggle to figure out who they are. They seem to want to create chaos at any big gathering nolabear Aug 2017 #19
Well it seems like these guys are playing a role NobodyHere Aug 2017 #23
As far as I know.... stevil Aug 2017 #27
I can attest to this The Blue Flower Aug 2017 #34
YES. n/t janx Aug 2017 #38
There is now a right-wing talking point that "anti-fascists are just as bad as the alt-right"... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #43
Those who want a peaceful protest had better kacekwl Aug 2017 #47
Right-wing strategy is to divide us along these lines... AntiFascist Aug 2017 #49
I am afraid for my country because bucolic_frolic Aug 2017 #7
I'm afraid too, because our president sides with the thugs, his people. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2017 #10
More of us than them stevil Aug 2017 #30
Congrats Thank you!!! gopiscrap Aug 2017 #41
Protesters countering Planned Alt-right rally in Seattle is the runner on msnbc riversedge Aug 2017 #9
reporter saying about 400 counter-protesters riversedge Aug 2017 #14
Fuck the name/ group FarPoint Aug 2017 #15
Police blocking Solidarity Against Hate protesters from going to Westlake, getting silly string and riversedge Aug 2017 #17
Immature bullshit janx Aug 2017 #39
Police are now telling solidarity Against Hate protesters to clear the area. At 2nd and Pine. #seat riversedge Aug 2017 #18
2nd and Pine is a long way from Westlake where the RW rally is. nolabear Aug 2017 #21
Um, it's two blocks. PSPS Aug 2017 #35
To all DUers attending this event in Seattle.... inanna Aug 2017 #20
"Hey hey ho ho white supremacy's got to go" - Solidarity Against Hate group moving towards Westlake riversedge Aug 2017 #22
A huge crowd in #Seattle about to march in memory of #HeatherHeyer, in solidarity w/ victims of whi riversedge Aug 2017 #24
Hard to tell how big this anti-alt right protest is but it's stretching for blocks as they make the riversedge Aug 2017 #25
Loving the Indiana Jones sign! riversedge Aug 2017 #26
WHOW--video. A HUGE Constitution brings up the rear as hundreds counter-protest against pro-Trump & riversedge Aug 2017 #28
Does his boss know he's a white nationalist? #AltRight #Seattle #westlake riversedge Aug 2017 #29
Anybody got a name for the right-wing Nazi? rockfordfile Aug 2017 #44
Perhaps they have by now?? Several groups and individuals are trying to ID and out these thugs. riversedge Aug 2017 #51
If I had known about it in time and had enough money I would have gone. Doreen Aug 2017 #31
Some Du'ers have said in the more recent past... llmart Aug 2017 #32
Hundreds of protestors decry nazi rally in #Seattle police bring in crowd control to keep them apar riversedge Aug 2017 #33
The "Patiots" rally seems to have taken a cue from yesterday... brooklynite Aug 2017 #36
#patriotprayer participants in #seattle wearing #maga hats! ***Hillary Clinton Reponds** riversedge Aug 2017 #37
Solidarity Against Hate Protesters keep trying to split off towards Westlake Park but police keep riversedge Aug 2017 #40
Replying to @alaskajensen @KING5Seattle Where can i sign this? riversedge Aug 2017 #42
Trumpees in Seattle? Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #45
Thank you so much, riversedge mountain grammy Aug 2017 #46
:-) riversedge Aug 2017 #50
What is with the silly string? oberliner Aug 2017 #48
The counter protesters spray silly string and glitter on the police line to try to get them to react Not Ruth Aug 2017 #52
I thought that this was a well written window into bloc protesting from a prior generation Not Ruth Aug 2017 #53
I cannot stop watching videos Not Ruth Aug 2017 #54

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
3. The fascist always seem to invoke the god word and burning things, torches/crosses.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:41 PM
Aug 2017

IMO anyone pro-Trump today seems to like bigoted fascism.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
6. MSNBC is reporting leftwing protesters are clashing with police
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:45 PM
Aug 2017

to try to get at the rightwing protesters.

riversedge

(70,454 posts)
12. Yes, some reporter just said the Alt-right is being held in a park. But msnbc is showing the
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:48 PM
Aug 2017

counter-protesters being held back by police (think I am catching on)

nolabear

(42,004 posts)
11. It's a nightmare. Legit counter protesters are infiltrated by masked "antifa" or "anarchists" or
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:48 PM
Aug 2017

whatever. You can see what's going on if you have FB and go to the KING5 feed.

They are doing nothing to help. They'll give that orange asshole an excuse for his "many sides" bull. They don't represent liberals, they don't represent Seattle. They seem hell bent on nothing but trouble.

nolabear

(42,004 posts)
19. I really struggle to figure out who they are. They seem to want to create chaos at any big gathering
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:56 PM
Aug 2017

stevil

(1,537 posts)
27. As far as I know....
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:09 PM
Aug 2017

These people are Black Bloc anarchists. I've always thought that was a cover for people who really just want to destroy shit and be in the middle of a riot. I think they get some kind of adrenaline rush or something. They ruin peaceful protesters and are the main reason for the strong police presence.

The Blue Flower

(5,451 posts)
34. I can attest to this
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:34 PM
Aug 2017

They show up at peaceful demonstrations just to create chaos and violence. Ruin it for everyone.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
43. There is now a right-wing talking point that "anti-fascists are just as bad as the alt-right"...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:55 PM
Aug 2017

as heard today on MSNBC, with the underlying belief that "they should be treated equally." This is very dangerous.

I think a strong, non-destructive protest is good if it can help make the alt-right feel as if the walls are closing in on them.

kacekwl

(7,027 posts)
47. Those who want a peaceful protest had better
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 10:23 PM
Aug 2017

find a way to remove or distance themselves from the masked black hood wearing assholes who are promoting violence at these rallies . Any good will quickly disappear.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
49. Right-wing strategy is to divide us along these lines...
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 02:11 AM
Aug 2017

and I'm not just talking about the alt-right wackos.

As long as they think we can be intimidated, then their purpose is served.

bucolic_frolic

(43,498 posts)
7. I am afraid for my country because
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:46 PM
Aug 2017

I fear the gauntlet has been thrown down

We must defend freedom, or these thugs will take it from us, and every time we try to peacefully defend
democracy they (are going to) show up with hatred and venom.

I fear this will be a difficult cycle to halt

riversedge

(70,454 posts)
17. Police blocking Solidarity Against Hate protesters from going to Westlake, getting silly string and
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:53 PM
Aug 2017




s Tweets, current page. Tweets & replies Media

Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 10m10 minutes ago

Replying to @bettinahansen

Police just started pushing back with pepper spray and flash bang grenades - now stand off and chanting again
0 replies 7 retweets 7 likes






Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 12m12 minutes ago





Police blocking Solidarity Against Hate protesters from going to Westlake, getting silly string and glitter from protesters #Seattle – at Pike Place Market
5 replies 63 retweets 33 likes







Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 26m26 minutes ago

Protesters chanting "Cops and Klan - Hand in Hand!" as a man is arrested at 4th and Lenora #Seattle
4 replies 12 retweets 11 likes



riversedge

(70,454 posts)
18. Police are now telling solidarity Against Hate protesters to clear the area. At 2nd and Pine. #seat
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:55 PM
Aug 2017

umm.. these are the counter-protesters being told to scatter. I do not know---but probably do not have a permit??? just guessing



Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 1m1 minute ago
Replying to @bettinahansen

Police are now telling solidarity Against Hate protesters to clear the area. At 2nd and Pine. #seattle


riversedge

(70,454 posts)
22. "Hey hey ho ho white supremacy's got to go" - Solidarity Against Hate group moving towards Westlake
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 05:58 PM
Aug 2017




Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 1h1 hour ago

"Hey hey ho ho white supremacy's got to go" - Solidarity Against Hate group moving towards Westlake #Seattle – at Whole Foods Market


riversedge

(70,454 posts)
24. A huge crowd in #Seattle about to march in memory of #HeatherHeyer, in solidarity w/ victims of whi
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:01 PM
Aug 2017



Women's March and 33 others follow
OneAmerica? @weareoneamerica 1h1 hour ago

A huge crowd in #Seattle about to march in memory of #HeatherHeyer, in solidarity w/ victims of white supremacists + against hate groups.














riversedge

(70,454 posts)
25. Hard to tell how big this anti-alt right protest is but it's stretching for blocks as they make the
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:05 PM
Aug 2017

Nathalie Graham? @gramsofgnats 57m57 minutes ago

Hard to tell how big this anti-alt right protest is but it's stretching for blocks as they make their way down Lenora #Seattle


riversedge

(70,454 posts)
26. Loving the Indiana Jones sign!
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:07 PM
Aug 2017


Deborah Gibbs? @debbiegibbshalm 2m2 minutes ago
Replying to @gramsofgnats

@Rebelutionary_Z Loving the Indiana Jones sign!

riversedge

(70,454 posts)
28. WHOW--video. A HUGE Constitution brings up the rear as hundreds counter-protest against pro-Trump &
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:10 PM
Aug 2017

Bet it is heavy!


Patrick Quinn? @PatrickQuinnTV 1h1 hour ago

A HUGE Constitution brings up the rear as hundreds counter-protest against pro-Trump & right-wing activists. #Seattle – at Denny Park




riversedge

(70,454 posts)
29. Does his boss know he's a white nationalist? #AltRight #Seattle #westlake
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:14 PM
Aug 2017

Seems someone is trying to ID this man.



#TheResistance and 2 others follow
Katy Bourne? @BigSwingTheory 44m44 minutes ago

Does his boss know he's a white nationalist?
#AltRight #Seattle #westlake


Doreen

(11,686 posts)
31. If I had known about it in time and had enough money I would have gone.
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:17 PM
Aug 2017

I could afford to go to one in Olympia but Olympia groups do not do well at letting people know there is going to be a protest. The last protest I was at I only found out about it that morning. Does anyone know a RELIABLE Olympia site that lets people know when protests are going to happen other than just a few hours before?

llmart

(15,567 posts)
32. Some Du'ers have said in the more recent past...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:22 PM
Aug 2017

that they could foresee another Civil War in this country. This weekend it sort of looks like it.

The haters will never win.

riversedge

(70,454 posts)
33. Hundreds of protestors decry nazi rally in #Seattle police bring in crowd control to keep them apar
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:30 PM
Aug 2017


Impact Democracy and 4 others follow
Katherine Cleland? @kcleland 5m5 minutes ago

Hundreds of protestors decry nazi rally in #Seattle police bring in crowd control to keep them apart


brooklynite

(94,984 posts)
36. The "Patiots" rally seems to have taken a cue from yesterday...
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:52 PM
Aug 2017

...it's not a white supremacy gathering; more of anti-illegal immigration, pro-"real" Americans rally.

riversedge

(70,454 posts)
37. #patriotprayer participants in #seattle wearing #maga hats! ***Hillary Clinton Reponds**
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 06:58 PM
Aug 2017

I have not seen Hillary respond to these type tweets. good for her. I also do not know how many Pro-trump protesters are in the park





Moni? @Moni100

A lot of #patriotprayer participants in #seattle wearing #maga hats! This is what those who voted for #trump have wrought - chaos. #resist






Hillary Clinton 🇺🇸? @HillaryClinnton 30m30 minutes ago
Replying to @Moni100

Less than 100 people don't represent millions of people who voted for Trump. Trump voters are also in disgust of the violence and hate!

riversedge

(70,454 posts)
40. Solidarity Against Hate Protesters keep trying to split off towards Westlake Park but police keep
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:10 PM
Aug 2017




Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 20m20 minutes ago

What looks to me like most of the Solidarity Against Hate group is back at Denny Park now. Lots of bike cops in tow. #Seattle

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Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 34m34 minutes ago

Solidarity Against Hate Protesters keep trying to split off towards Westlake Park but police keep blocking their route. #seattle
0 replies 7 retweets 0 likes







Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 53m53 minutes ago

Solidarity Against Hate protesters seem to *mostly* be clearing the area, walking back towards Denny Park.

0 replies 1 retweet 1 like










Bettina Hansen?Verified account @bettinahansen 1h1 hour ago
Replying to @bettinahansen

Many staying behind chanting at police #Seattle



riversedge

(70,454 posts)
42. Replying to @alaskajensen @KING5Seattle Where can i sign this?
Sun Aug 13, 2017, 07:43 PM
Aug 2017






publicOutcry? @dingalingy55 57m57 minutes ago
Replying to @alaskajensen @KING5Seattle

Where can i sign this?



 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
53. I thought that this was a well written window into bloc protesting from a prior generation
Mon Aug 14, 2017, 05:04 AM
Aug 2017

The bloc want to be on the front line of the protest. And I suppose for other protesters to form the rear.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=9452214

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