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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 08:55 AM Aug 2017

Trump accuses Amazon of hurting 'tax paying retailers'

Source: Politico




By LOUIS NELSON 08/16/2017 06:50 AM EDT

President Donald Trump lashed out again Wednesday morning at the online retailer Amazon, accusing it of harming “tax paying retailers” and stripping jobs away from towns and cities across the country.

“Amazon is doing great damage to tax paying retailers. Towns, cities and states throughout the U.S. are being hurt - many jobs being lost!” the president wrote online just after 6 a.m. Wednesday morning.

Trump did not specifically accuse Amazon of any particular crime or tactic in his Wednesday morning post to Twitter, but he has in the past accused the retailer of reaping a competitive edge by not paying enough in taxes.

The president’s tax-related allegations against Amazon are unclear, since the company has been collecting sales tax in each state that has one since the beginning of April. A 1992 Supreme Court ruling generally bars states from collecting sales tax from companies that do not have a physical presence in the state.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/trump-tweet-amazon-hurts-retailers-241685

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Trump accuses Amazon of hurting 'tax paying retailers' (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2017 OP
And what's Shortfinger gonna do about it? Close tax-loopholes? DetlefK Aug 2017 #1
Mr. smallfeet - nothing Iliyah Aug 2017 #2
Tantrum over the Washington Post. Pathetic toddler Freethinker65 Aug 2017 #3
That is what I was about to say. nt Lucky Luciano Aug 2017 #6
And when is the last time he shopped in a Sears store? Deb Aug 2017 #4
But... but Trump just said he waits to get the facts before regurgitating procon Aug 2017 #5
I was just kind of guessing that maybe Amazon refused to carry Ivanka's shit merchandise groundloop Aug 2017 #17
I think it's because Amazon's Jeff Bezos also owns the WA Post. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #20
Got it. "Trump launches another Twitter tirade against Amazon and Bezos-owned Washington Post" mahatmakanejeeves Aug 2017 #23
Trump doesn't read anyway. forgotmylogin Aug 2017 #7
Breaking News: Cryptoad Aug 2017 #8
I pay taxes on all my Amazon purchases obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #9
So do I,they have a center here in Kansas........ Bengus81 Aug 2017 #11
yup obamanut2012 Aug 2017 #22
I pay taxes here in Maryland on Amazon orders. JaneQPublic Aug 2017 #16
Pfffttt....Hey Trump... WALMART someone you stand up for? Bengus81 Aug 2017 #10
Yes, this edhopper Aug 2017 #15
More projection. MrsCoffee Aug 2017 #12
Yep. dalton99a Aug 2017 #13
Where are your tax returns, filthy Nazi asshole? dalton99a Aug 2017 #14
Trump...HUGE tax SCOFLAW accusing Amazon of "not paying enough taxes" Bengus81 Aug 2017 #18
More Of The Same ProfessorGAC Aug 2017 #19
it's dumber than that, collecting/paying sales tax is a PITA for merchants geek tragedy Aug 2017 #25
He's attacking Amazon because Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post. n/t pnwmom Aug 2017 #21
amazon wants internet purchases to be taxed. geek tragedy Aug 2017 #24
Internet purchases are taxed. Amazon collects state sales taxes The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #27
Amazon wants every Internet merchant to be forced to do exactly what geek tragedy Aug 2017 #30
You have to pay sales taxes on Amazon purchases The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2017 #26
I assume trump is talking about sales tax CatMor Aug 2017 #28
Another bullshit daily misdirection courtesy of shitler. The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #29
All types of small companies sell their products on Amazon marketplace IronLionZion Aug 2017 #31
Like the GOP suddenly gives a shit about taxes. DIVERSION! Initech Aug 2017 #32
Online HAS HURT brick and mortar....that is true but like coal....not going back dembotoz Aug 2017 #33
I pay taxes on my Amazon purchases. He just hates Bezos and wants to whine about something... Luciferous Aug 2017 #34
This has nothing to do with taxes. xor Aug 2017 #35
Amazon has hurt lots of businesses and soon will be hurting markets Raine Aug 2017 #36

Deb

(3,742 posts)
4. And when is the last time he shopped in a Sears store?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:06 AM
Aug 2017

Or any large retail store? Typical GOP hypocrite.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. But... but Trump just said he waits to get the facts before regurgitating
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:08 AM
Aug 2017

the crappy stuff he finds on the Internet. Like everyone else, I pay taxes when I order from Amazon, so Trump is lying, again. This probably has more to do with Trump's ongoing feud with The Washington Post newspaper which is owned by Jeff Bezos, who also owns Amazon.com.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
17. I was just kind of guessing that maybe Amazon refused to carry Ivanka's shit merchandise
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:59 AM
Aug 2017

Clearly though, if 45* is bitching about Amazon it's because he's using his position as current occupant of the White House to air a personal gripe.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,446 posts)
23. Got it. "Trump launches another Twitter tirade against Amazon and Bezos-owned Washington Post"
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:14 PM
Aug 2017
Trump launches another Twitter tirade against Amazon and Bezos-owned Washington Post

BY JOHN COOK on July 24, 2017 at 8:12 pm

The President of the United States is attacking Amazon again.

Donald Trump this evening issued a series of Tweets, calling out the “Amazon Washington Post.” The Tweets appeared to be in reaction to a story the newspaper ran titled “Cooperation with Russia becomes central to Trump strategy in Syria.”

Update: Politico Media reports that Tucker Carlson of Fox News talked Monday night about a July 19 Washington Post story, which appears to be what prompted Trump’s tweets.

Amazon does not own The Washington Post. Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos purchased the newspaper in 2013 for $250 million.

Here is the series of Tweets that President Trump issued.

{snip}

forgotmylogin

(7,528 posts)
7. Trump doesn't read anyway.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:13 AM
Aug 2017

Amazon is charging sales tax in every state they have a physical distrubution center (I guess?) in. They've done something in MO, because I am now paying sales tax on Amazon purchases.

They are doing this legally per the tax code. That makes them smart in the President's glossary.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
11. So do I,they have a center here in Kansas........
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:26 AM
Aug 2017

So not only do they get Kansas sales tax out of me they also get shipping which fuels the transportation industry.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
10. Pfffttt....Hey Trump... WALMART someone you stand up for?
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 09:26 AM
Aug 2017

Those assholes have made a full frontal assault over the last 20 years to move into small towns and cities and DRIVE out all other retailers. Then,if their sales don't skyrocket year after year the shutter they place and blow town litterly overnight leaving a small town without anything resembling a variety or retail stores.

Get a clue Cheeto............

ProfessorGAC

(65,038 posts)
19. More Of The Same
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 10:11 AM
Aug 2017

This is just as dumb as bringing back coal. The world has technologically moved to a point where there's no putting that genie back in the bottle.

The lack of taxes (if true) have nothing to with the business model of Amazon nor does it create an iota of incentive for buyers to shop with them.

If i'm a buyer and getting something on line through them is more convenient, my not having to pay sales tax (and illinois we do), doesn't influence my buying decision at all. And, it doesn't influence them to operate on that business model. More than likely, even less so, as they pass any taxes on to the buyer anyway. Absolutely zero advantage to them

This is just empty rhetoric about bringing back the "good old days" in business arenas where the train has left the station.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
25. it's dumber than that, collecting/paying sales tax is a PITA for merchants
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:43 PM
Aug 2017

that requires time, money on the compliance end.

It's a classic barrier to entry for firms seeking to enter the market in order to compete with the monopolist.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
24. amazon wants internet purchases to be taxed.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:40 PM
Aug 2017

that would create a much bigger burden--from a compliance perspective--on smaller companies that would try to compete.

it would create a barrier to entry, and that's one thing monopolists all love

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
30. Amazon wants every Internet merchant to be forced to do exactly what
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:53 PM
Aug 2017

Amazon does. So Trump is playing right into their hands.

When you're a huge company, getting taxpayer IDs from all 50 states etc is no big deal.

For other companies, it's a giant barrier to entry.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,692 posts)
26. You have to pay sales taxes on Amazon purchases
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:47 PM
Aug 2017

just as if you bought those things in a brick-and-mortar store. And I'm sure Amazon pays its own taxes. There is an argument that Amazon is hurting some businesses because of the convenience of on-line buying, but it has nothing to do with taxes. The real reason SCROTUS has a bug up his butt about Amazon is because its owner, Jeff Bezos, also owns the Washington Post.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
28. I assume trump is talking about sales tax
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 12:53 PM
Aug 2017

Amazon collects sales tax on my purchases and I am the one paying the tax, not Amazon. Is trump really that stupid.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
31. All types of small companies sell their products on Amazon marketplace
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 01:28 PM
Aug 2017

there are women knitting pussy hats and selling it there alongside artisan soaps and other stuff.

I hate going to the mall and wasting all day and might not even find what I was looking for. Online retailing is better in many ways. Sure it screws many brick and mortar shops but it also provides an opportunity for many small sellers to reach a geographically wider audience.

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
33. Online HAS HURT brick and mortar....that is true but like coal....not going back
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 01:37 PM
Aug 2017

i actually only shop online when my options are limited.

xor

(1,204 posts)
35. This has nothing to do with taxes.
Wed Aug 16, 2017, 02:21 PM
Aug 2017

Besides, wasn't amazon paying sales tax in pretty much every state even before April?

Raine

(30,540 posts)
36. Amazon has hurt lots of businesses and soon will be hurting markets
Thu Aug 17, 2017, 12:40 AM
Aug 2017

too with their online food ordering & deliveries. I know though I sure pay the sale taxes on anything I order from them and have been for a few years now, as usual he doesn't know what he's tweeting about!

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