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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:27 PM Aug 2017

Leaked Chats Show White Nationalists Planned Use Of Brutal Force In C'Ville

Source: Talking Points Memo




By ALLEGRA KIRKLAND Published AUGUST 28, 2017 2:29 PM

A steady stream of leaked screenshots from the now-defunct chat server used to organize attendees at this month’s deadly “Unite the Right” rally shows that the white nationalists who descended on Charlottesville, Virginia were well-organized and came with the intention of committing brutal violence.

Unicorn Riot, a volunteer nonprofit media outlet, received hundreds of chat transcripts from the app Discord through an anonymous source, and has been publishing them in edited batches since the Aug. 12 rally. Eli Mosley, one of the organizers of the “Unite the Right” rally, told Wired that the screenshots of the chats appeared to be legitimate.

In some of the chats, posters shared photographs of themselves mugging with semi-automatic weapons or homemade shields. In others, they discussed the ideal thickness of PVC pipes that could be used for “thumping” counter-protesters and shared GoFundMe links urging like-minded people to fund their road trips to Charlottesville.

Most strikingly, a number of posts joked about plowing cars into crowds of peaceful protesters. James Alex Fields, Jr. allegedly killed one such counter-protester, Virginia native Heather Heyer, and injured at least 19 others when he rammed his Dodge Charger down a crowded street at the height of the rally.

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Leaked Chats Show White Nationalists Planned Use Of Brutal Force In C'Ville (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2017 OP
But but it was the cops fault underpants Aug 2017 #1
Yes, it was. The cops sealed off the north entrance to the park that they told the Nitram Aug 2017 #19
Cops claimed they disregarded their pre-protest plan and went the wrong direction JonLP24 Aug 2017 #23
Fault by one does not necessarily deny fault by another. LanternWaste Aug 2017 #20
I'm starting with the assumption that it was the cop's job was to Nitram Aug 2017 #24
Hmm. Pretty sure that wasn't included in that permit they said they had ck4829 Aug 2017 #2
Does that not make Heather Heyer's murder Control-Z Aug 2017 #3
I would say not just premeditated but a conspiracy ck4829 Aug 2017 #5
Yes, that's what I'm thinking. Control-Z Aug 2017 #6
I would think so ck4829 Aug 2017 #10
In a land where 'grand jury's will indict a ham sandwich' pecosbob Aug 2017 #4
Traitorous republican thug squads against America Achilleaze Aug 2017 #7
And now Sessions has reinstated a new slew of shipments DK504 Aug 2017 #8
No surprise. We see this online all the time now. L. Coyote Aug 2017 #9
"many sides...many sides" The_Casual_Observer Aug 2017 #11
Very fine people world wide wally Aug 2017 #12
LOL. I read your title & thought it said "Snow White Nationalists." :) nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #13
Me too! They_Live Aug 2017 #17
:) nt Honeycombe8 Aug 2017 #18
Only Grumpy and Dopey suit them crazycatlady Aug 2017 #21
Dopey, Lazy, Angry, Weepy, Cowardly, Whiney, Unseemly... FSogol Aug 2017 #22
It was all just the internet equivalent of "locker room talk" Martin Eden Aug 2017 #14
Right? Ligyron Aug 2017 #15
Fine people The Wizard Aug 2017 #16
Not good. riversedge Aug 2017 #25

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
19. Yes, it was. The cops sealed off the north entrance to the park that they told the
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 10:11 PM
Aug 2017

nazis to use, so they had to walk through protestors to get inside. Then the cops pushed the nazis out of the park right into the protestors instead of keeping them separated. The cops bear a lot for responsibility for what happened.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
23. Cops claimed they disregarded their pre-protest plan and went the wrong direction
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 10:25 AM
Aug 2017

What I heard from them anyways. Don't know if it is true but the nazis seemed to be looking for a fight regardless.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Fault by one does not necessarily deny fault by another.
Tue Aug 29, 2017, 12:19 PM
Aug 2017

Fault may often be shared. Fault by one does not necessarily deny fault by another. The False Dilemma is a logical fallacy.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
24. I'm starting with the assumption that it was the cop's job was to
Wed Aug 30, 2017, 11:00 AM
Aug 2017

keep the two groups from interacting. That's standard crowd control in a situation like this. They utterly failed to take the minimum steps to achieve that goal. They knew in advance that both groups had a potential for violence.

ck4829

(35,071 posts)
5. I would say not just premeditated but a conspiracy
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:43 PM
Aug 2017

Especially if Fields was part of this discussion.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
6. Yes, that's what I'm thinking.
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:51 PM
Aug 2017

I hope they have those conversations - with Fields. He will not be the only one tried for murder if the circumstances prove conspiracy, correct?

pecosbob

(7,538 posts)
4. In a land where 'grand jury's will indict a ham sandwich'
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 05:35 PM
Aug 2017

this sounds like prima facie evidence of a conspiracy. I await the impending indictments.

DK504

(3,847 posts)
8. And now Sessions has reinstated a new slew of shipments
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:03 PM
Aug 2017

of military equipment to cities that are already armies.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
11. "many sides...many sides"
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 06:30 PM
Aug 2017

"There were great people there, protesting the removal of that beautiful statue"

"many sides ..... many sides"

Martin Eden

(12,864 posts)
14. It was all just the internet equivalent of "locker room talk"
Mon Aug 28, 2017, 08:15 PM
Aug 2017

After all, none of them ACTUALLY drove a car into a crowd of counter protesters.

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