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Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:12 PM

Young immigrants shout down Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Several dozen young immigrants shouted down Nancy Pelosi, the top Democrat in the U.S. House, on Monday during an event in San Francisco, following her recent conversations with President Donald Trump over the future of a program that grants many of them legal status.

"We are immigrant youth, undocumented and unafraid," they shouted as they overtook an event Pelosi was holding to encourage passing legislation that would give many young immigrants legal status.

After smiling and occasionally trying to speak through much of the protest, an aggravated Pelosi told the protesters to "just stop it, now," shortly before she was led out of the room.

She was appearing with Democratic U.S. Reps. Barbara Lee and Jared Huffman at College Track San Francisco, a program to expand college access. She was scheduled to appear Monday afternoon in Sacramento for a similar event.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Young-immigrants-shout-down-Democratic-leader-12206586.php

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Reply Young immigrants shout down Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi (Original post)
Jose Garcia Sep 2017 OP
elehhhhna Sep 2017 #1
deurbano Sep 2017 #5
SCantiGOP Sep 2017 #12
elehhhhna Sep 2017 #23
Me. Sep 2017 #26
ProgressiveValue Sep 2017 #28
Dopers_Greed Sep 2017 #2
Old Vet Sep 2017 #4
onit2day Sep 2017 #6
jcmaine72 Sep 2017 #3
BigmanPigman Sep 2017 #7
leftofcool Sep 2017 #8
Mike Nelson Sep 2017 #9
mackdaddy Sep 2017 #10
Eyeball_Kid Sep 2017 #13
Eyeball_Kid Sep 2017 #11
OKNancy Sep 2017 #14
JI7 Sep 2017 #22
alp227 Sep 2017 #15
wryter2000 Sep 2017 #20
peggysue2 Sep 2017 #16
LenaBaby61 Sep 2017 #18
peggysue2 Sep 2017 #24
Glorfindel Sep 2017 #17
hadEnuf Sep 2017 #19
YOHABLO Sep 2017 #21
DeminPennswoods Sep 2017 #25
question everything Sep 2017 #27
DeminPennswoods Sep 2017 #29
JI7 Sep 2017 #30

Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:15 PM

1. False flag bullshit in my opinion

 

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:26 PM

5. I wonder about that.

I think many participants were sincere, but had they been manipulated by others with a hidden agenda? Or is it just easier to protest the Democratic representatives in the Bay Area instead of traveling to the districts where their real enemies reside?

My daughter was at that press conference---which was in support of DACA and the Dreamers, for god's sake--- and she was texting me in frustration the whole time. The protestors made it impossible even for Dreamers to speak.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:35 PM

12. No false flag

I just watched it on TV. Besides, I think the alt-right owns the 'false flag' brand.

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Response to SCantiGOP (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:10 PM

23. How do you know?

 

Black bloc etc. have made a fucking indistry of fucking up real protests.

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:31 PM

26. THey Used To Protest PBO Too

at his rallies

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 11:00 PM

28. Sure thing.

 

Everything that makes us look bad is obviously a false flag operation. Always.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:18 PM

2. Shouting down the people trying to help them

Sounds like a winning plan. Why not protest Trump instead?

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Response to Dopers_Greed (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:23 PM

4. I 100% agree, These assholes need to be in Mitch McConnels and Paul Ryans face......

Don't they understand Nancy and Chuck are on there side..

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Response to Old Vet (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:28 PM

6. Were they really not paid trolls

 

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:20 PM

3. Does anyone know the whereabouts of G. Gordon Liddy these days?

He's probably too old to get it up, but there might be one or two more tricks left in that old colostomy bag he calls a brain.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:29 PM

7. I wouldn't be surprised if pro 45 people were acting as instigators.

This is exactly the sort of thing they are known for.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:30 PM

8. Not too smart of them.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:32 PM

9. Weird...

...guess they just wanted the attention and she was convenient. I wish they could find someone more worthy to interrupt, though...

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:34 PM

10. In the days of trump, they better be afraid. And they better figure out who their friends are.

A disorderly conduct arrest would block them from being in DACA now, and they could end up deported in a hurry under Trump and the Evil Elf.

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Response to mackdaddy (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:38 PM

13. The Dreamers I know...

Wouldn't come close to a shout-down. Deportation is truly terrifying for them. Common sense tells me that they were paid to disrupt, and that they aren't Dreamers.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:34 PM

11. This is nuts...

Unless it isn't. Unless they were agent provocateurs. Looks like a Roger Stone Production.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:48 PM

14. They are from Our Revolution

Woman promoting attack on Pelosi: Erica Andiola,
currently w/Our Revolution,
hired by Bernie in '15

@ErikaAndiola


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Response to OKNancy (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:01 PM

22. These people are trolls. Is bernie who they claim to support supporting

Something different than pelosi and other democrats on this ? did he put out a clean bill ?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:50 PM

15. original SF Chron article not AP copy...

Protesters shut down Pelosi news conference on DACA, chanting, 'All of us or none of us'

Chanting pro-immigrant slogans — “All of us or none of us,” “Democrats deport” and “We are not a bargaining chip” — more than 60 young people overwhelmed a Monday news conference that House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi had organized on her home turf in San Francisco to urge passage of the DREAM Act to protect immigrants who were brought to the country as children.

After nearly an hour of boisterous chanting from the group, which called itself “Undocumented Youth,” Pelosi and fellow House Democrats Barbara Lee of Oakland and Jared Huffman of San Rafael packed up and left the carefully orchestrated event.

Among the dozens of people leading the disruption was Luis Serrano. He called on Pelosi to fight for a “clean bill” that doesn’t make concessions to the Trump administration and includes a path to citizenship for the roughly 11 million immigrants who are in the U.S., without legal status, not just the 690,000 recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program that the president recently rescinded.

“Where were you when we asked to defend our parents?” the group chanted in a call-and-response led by Serrano. “And now you tell us — you have the audacity to tell us — you have been fighting deportation. You are a liar! You are a liar! You are a liar!”

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Response to alp227 (Reply #15)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:59 PM

20. Anyone shouting down Barbara Lee

Is not a Democrat or a progressive. If this was the work of "Our Revolution," they need to take a good, long look at themselves.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 02:58 PM

16. This was totally

Counterproductive which makes me think this was the result of manipulation. I can understand their complaint of not wanting to be used as pawns by Trump or wanting to have a comprehensive immigration plan but right now we're talking prevention of deportation. Nancy Pelosi and the Dems are their defender at this point. There will be no citizenship opportunities if and when they're dumped out of the country. something that Trump supporters truly desire.

An example of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Ugh!

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:31 PM

18. All of us or none of us.

IF those protesters weren't paid and REALLY feel this way "All of us or none of us," and were shouting this at Pelosi, then that REALLY isn't going to help their cause. I have several Hispanic friends--Who have family members who worked hard and sacrificed over a period of YEARS to become citizens of this country--and those folks were never as patient with the Dreamers as I've been, and my patience is going to be GONE if these types of counterproductive protests against their allies continue.

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #18)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 05:47 PM

24. Perfect or nothing

In a perfect world, I'd agree with these young peoples' sentiments. But we don't live in that world.

The fear of deportation back to a country you have no memory of or attachment to must be awful. Which is why blocking the deportation of 800,000 is so important. But I agree with you--this opposition and interruption of Pelosi's press conference is really an example of stepping on your own message and/or desire to stay in country. It's only by being in-counry that the demands they were shouting can be addressed and worked on. They stand little chance of that once deported.

I don't get it. The priorities have been skewed either by manipulation or bad decision-making or something. Whoever decided this was a good idea was really, really wrong.





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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:00 PM

17. The aren't doing themselves any good. This has markedly decreased my sympathy for them

and I'm sure I'm not alone. I hope someone can prove that it was a false-flag operation.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 03:40 PM

19. I thought this was from The Onion.

Smells like false flag to me.

Either that or they are nuts.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 04:36 PM

21. Fucking dumb asses need to shut up and LISTEN. They don't know who is on their side.

 

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 06:14 PM

25. Seemed counterproductive to me

MSNBC was showing the protest and they also had a spokesman or someone affiliated with the protestors on in an insert. He was pretty aggressive in answering questions from Casie Hunt (?). I thought, why are you protesting people who are trying to help you?

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #25)

Mon Sep 18, 2017, 10:48 PM

27. Certainly is. And while most Americans do support keeping DACA

such event could turn away many.

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Response to question everything (Reply #27)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 05:19 AM

29. Heard later on MSNBC

that the protestors were trying to draw attention to immingrants not covered by DACA. But, we have to start somewhere and the DREAMERs are a good place to do that. Then, hopefully, move on comprehensive reform.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Tue Sep 19, 2017, 05:52 AM

30. other Dreamers are attacking them

"our revolution" is actually turning off most dreamers with this. say the group is a fraud with people fame seeking types. they are also posting the sanders lou dobbs video .

these people should disassociate themselves from sanders.

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