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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:51 PM Aug 2012

Elizabeth Warren backs off demand that Scott Brown release more tax returns

Source: Boston Globe

Elizabeth Warren demanded Monday that Senator Scott Brown release more years of his tax returns. The only problem was that Brown, her Republican rival, had already released six years of tax returns while Warren has refused to release more than four years of her filings.

Asked to reconcile that apparent conflict, Warren backed off her demand hours later, saying Tuesday that six years was enough. She did not, however, offer to release any more of her IRS filings.

The episode began on Monday night, when Warren called on Brown to release two decades worth of filings.

“I think Scott Brown should release his tax returns for all the years he’s been in public service,” Warren said in Worcester Monday night, according to the website GoLocalWorcester.com. “He’s been in public service for 20 years, then he should have 20 years of tax returns.”

Read more: http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/08/07/elizabeth-warren-calls-scott-brown-release-more-tax-returns-than-she-has/YBXaARA2AdnEfFnV2XECmM/story.html

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Elizabeth Warren backs off demand that Scott Brown release more tax returns (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Aug 2012 OP
Can we please stop having unforced errors in races for this seat? (nt) Recursion Aug 2012 #1
When I read this Equate Aug 2012 #2
for a smart lady, she has had a lot of miss steps... how she may lose Ted Kennedy's Moltisanti Aug 2012 #15
She's a very smart woman Equate Aug 2012 #19
Seems her 'campaign staff' isn't quite up to its job. elleng Aug 2012 #34
She needs to clean house Equate Aug 2012 #36
She should say that she will release her returns when Romney releases his... rfranklin Aug 2012 #3
That would be brilliant... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #4
This election season is beyond depressing. Beacool Aug 2012 #5
Butttttt Broderick Aug 2012 #6
Apparently neither side wants to focus on the elephant in the room. Beacool Aug 2012 #10
Indeed. woo me with science Aug 2012 #21
Thanks!!! Beacool Aug 2012 #24
If only we had Hillary to save us from all of this snooper2 Aug 2012 #12
Preach it crimson77 Aug 2012 #23
Save your snark........... Beacool Aug 2012 #25
Search the internet. Look for bad news about Democrats. Kingofalldems Aug 2012 #7
see no evil etc HomerRamone Aug 2012 #9
. Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #18
We should make a rule that candidates running for federal JDPriestly Aug 2012 #8
Hmm kenfrequed Aug 2012 #11
Yes, at least someONE, elleng Aug 2012 #35
For crissakes! Can't we do anything right in MA? graywarrior Aug 2012 #13
Half of the state party leadership going to jail a few years ago didn't help Recursion Aug 2012 #14
Pretty soon, I will be too old and senile to give a rats ass. graywarrior Aug 2012 #16
I'm already at that point and I'm not even that old. Beacool Aug 2012 #26
Could the root of that be that Kerry and possibly Tsongus karynnj Aug 2012 #17
I'm not sure why she did this Marrah_G Aug 2012 #20
Probably some staffer suggested it Equate Aug 2012 #22
I feel the same way. nt woo me with science Aug 2012 #27
Pretty much everyone calling for Mitt Romney's returns hasn't released theirs either. dkf Aug 2012 #28
Just for the sake of accuracy, this wasn't about Romney's returns. cigsandcoffee Aug 2012 #29
She's gone quiet, at least for a bit. Which is good. When you are in a hole, stop digging... CTyankee Aug 2012 #30
Hi, yank! elleng Aug 2012 #38
don't know about kerry...musta missed that one! CTyankee Aug 2012 #39
Remember elleng Aug 2012 #40
I'll have to ask my son in law what he knows about Cahill. CTyankee Aug 2012 #42
Oh right, a great resource! elleng Aug 2012 #43
I'll pm you about what he's doing in this campaign... CTyankee Aug 2012 #44
OK. elleng Aug 2012 #45
Kerry actually made a great decision firing Jordan karynnj Aug 2012 #49
The two Kennedy people, Mary Beth Cahill and Bob Shrum, turned things around karynnj Aug 2012 #48
Ugh, she really seems to have fumbled this one badly. nt cstanleytech Aug 2012 #31
I am going to leave this here.... crimson77 Aug 2012 #32
You a big supporter of the Boston Herald? CTyankee Aug 2012 #33
??? elleng Aug 2012 #37
Nothing dicey there - just demanding they follow the law karynnj Aug 2012 #41
that story makes Scott Brown look like a vile racist...UGH! CTyankee Aug 2012 #46
I agree - and someone who sees people on welfare as not deserving a vote karynnj Aug 2012 #47
 

Equate

(256 posts)
2. When I read this
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
Aug 2012

I had a big Whoops moment.
She sounds like her own worse enemy. Hopefully this doesn't hurt her in Nov.

 

Moltisanti

(33 posts)
15. for a smart lady, she has had a lot of miss steps... how she may lose Ted Kennedy's
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:39 PM
Aug 2012

seat to Scott Brown is amazing....

 

Equate

(256 posts)
19. She's a very smart woman
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:58 PM
Aug 2012

I suspect that someone on her campaign staff suggested this w/o doing any research thinking that it's working against Romney, let's do it against Brown.
If so, then that person should be fired.
As much as I hate to disagree with you, it wasn't Ted Kennedy's seat, it's the people of Mass. seat.

 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
3. She should say that she will release her returns when Romney releases his...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:13 PM
Aug 2012

I think that would be fair.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
4. That would be brilliant...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:21 PM
Aug 2012

Even if Romney doesn't she should release a lot more. The sooner the better. And with an apology.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
5. This election season is beyond depressing.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:30 PM
Aug 2012

Both sides act like bratty kids in a playground.

Show me yours. No, you show me yours first. No, you.......etc., etc., etc.

Broderick

(4,578 posts)
6. Butttttt
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:15 PM
Aug 2012

We have Romneyhood and Obamalogna. LMAO. Seriously, that is the yakking between the two. That is pretty much bratty kids in the playground.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
10. Apparently neither side wants to focus on the elephant in the room.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:09 PM
Aug 2012

The lousy economy and what they plan to do about trying to fix it. They prefer to distract the masses with shiny objects and finger pointing.

I give up........

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
8. We should make a rule that candidates running for federal
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:02 PM
Aug 2012

offices should release x number of years of tax returns the day they file to run.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. Half of the state party leadership going to jail a few years ago didn't help
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 07:08 PM
Aug 2012

And acting like that Senate seat is our birthright (and there's still a lot of that in MA) doesn't help either.

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
16. Pretty soon, I will be too old and senile to give a rats ass.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 08:06 PM
Aug 2012

I just can't stand S. Brown. He's an arrogant, mean man.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
26. I'm already at that point and I'm not even that old.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:00 AM
Aug 2012

I don't give a crap anymore. I'm glad that I'll be out of the country for the Democratic Convention (I have zero interest in watching the Republicans either).

It's a horse and pony show for the apathetic masses.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
17. Could the root of that be that Kerry and possibly Tsongus
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 08:55 PM
Aug 2012

were never given credit for being the exceptional Senators they were? This led to them with Kennedy holding both seats for decades.

Had Kerry been less good, it is easy to imagine Weld would have won and likely held the seat for years. Then the idea that both were "Democratic" seats.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
20. I'm not sure why she did this
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:01 PM
Aug 2012

I feel like I am missing part of this story. SHe is way to smart to make a mistake like that.

 

Equate

(256 posts)
22. Probably some staffer suggested it
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 11:49 PM
Aug 2012

w/o doing any research thinking if it worked against Romney, let's try it against Brown. If so, then someone needs to be fired.

 

dkf

(37,305 posts)
28. Pretty much everyone calling for Mitt Romney's returns hasn't released theirs either.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 10:45 AM
Aug 2012

Why give Warren grief when no one else is being held to account?

cigsandcoffee

(2,300 posts)
29. Just for the sake of accuracy, this wasn't about Romney's returns.
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:24 PM
Aug 2012

It was about her opponent's returns. It's a bit of a snafu to call for him to release more of his returns while he's already released more of them than she has.

Somebody dropped the ball on that one.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
30. She's gone quiet, at least for a bit. Which is good. When you are in a hole, stop digging...
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:08 PM
Aug 2012

I hope this doesn't end her chances...

elleng

(130,974 posts)
38. Hi, yank!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:43 PM
Aug 2012

Day late, but I agree. HOPE she's re-doing her campaign 'aides.' Hope she can find some who are better, and know what they're doing.

Recall when ?Kerry? adopted or was gifted with aides from Ted Kennedy, and things seemed to go badly for a while? Or am I mis-recalling?

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
39. don't know about kerry...musta missed that one!
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
Aug 2012

I think she's wise to pull back from this and get to the bottom of why the aide did not see the discrepancy in her releasing 4 years vs. Scott releasing 6. She must have been misinformed somewhere along the way. Could this have been a dirty trick?

elleng

(130,974 posts)
40. Remember
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:58 PM
Aug 2012

early on, John Kerry's campaign manager was Jim Jordan. However, Jordan was replaced by Mary Beth Cahill. Kerry also hired Bob Shrum as a campaign consultant. Cahill and Shrum were known for disagreeing on how the campaign should be run.

I somehow recall Cahill as supposed to be a superstar who couldn't get it done, sent over from Ted Kennedy Senatorial campaign staff. (Googled and came up with her name.)

Yes, Warren is wise to pull back and get to the bottom of things, and STOP DIGGING, as you said.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
42. I'll have to ask my son in law what he knows about Cahill.
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 03:06 PM
Aug 2012

He did focus groups on that campaign. He probably didn't know her, but he must have known people who did...

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
49. Kerry actually made a great decision firing Jordan
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:35 PM
Aug 2012

After that the primary campaign far exceeded what the pundits expected.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
48. The two Kennedy people, Mary Beth Cahill and Bob Shrum, turned things around
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:32 PM
Aug 2012

He was doing poorly before that - and he got rid of Jim Jordan, who fought with Kerry's wife and brother on how to run a campaign. The primary campaign was well run by the Kennedy aides and Kerry people - it was a very smooth path to a win in spite of little party support and almost no media support.

The general election was tougher - they needed more people and it seems some of the Edwards and Clinton people were more loyal to their person than to Kerry.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
41. Nothing dicey there - just demanding they follow the law
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 02:59 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:27 PM - Edit history (1)

and it's a good law.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
47. I agree - and someone who sees people on welfare as not deserving a vote
Thu Aug 9, 2012, 05:26 PM
Aug 2012

Especially disgusting as his needed welfare when he was a kid. (I still don't get how they had no money yet his father was a Republican low level official in another town - presumably a self sufficient member of the community.)

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