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maddezmom

(135,060 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:10 PM Aug 2012

Tenn. mosque at center of controversy to open

Source: AP


Updated 12:13 p.m., Tuesday, August 7, 2012

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — A new Tennessee mosque that has been the subject of arson, vandalism, protests and a lawsuit is expected to finally open for prayers on Friday.

Islamic Center of Murfreesboro Board Chairman Essam Fathy on Tuesday said inspectors had approved the building and he expected to receive a temporary occupancy permit.

Construction was nearly shut down after a Rutherford County judge ruled in May that the meeting where mosque construction was approved was not sufficiently advertised to the public.

Last month, federal prosecutors stepped in to protect the religious liberty of mosque members. A federal judge ruled in their favor, allowing construction and permitting to move ahead.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/article/Tenn-mosque-at-center-of-controversy-to-open-3769127.php



good news.
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Tenn. mosque at center of controversy to open (Original Post) maddezmom Aug 2012 OP
I sure hope they have video cameras outside to catch idiots trying to burn it down. I southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #1
Look for TN to claim "states rights" to stop the opening of the mosque. AlinPA Aug 2012 #2
They'll more likely just destroy it sometime soon. (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2012 #18
The mayor should have just said that the mosque doesn't stand for the values 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #3
Sure you're in the right place? bongbong Aug 2012 #6
Democrats support the constitution as well 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #8
Oh yeah! bongbong Aug 2012 #9
Just to be clear 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #10
How would the mayor of Nashville... Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #11
The same? bongbong Aug 2012 #12
Legally you aren't allowed to discriminate based on either 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #19
Thanks bongbong Aug 2012 #21
Not at all. Don't get testy because you didn't understand the point I was making 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #22
LOL bongbong Aug 2012 #23
Some more non-literal thinking on your part? 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #25
Oh really? bongbong Aug 2012 #27
Boring 4th law of robotics Aug 2012 #29
Because a mosque is a place of worship, and there's a constitutional guarantee of religious freedom? KamaAina Aug 2012 #24
The Nashville mayor would have no say in this. TNDemo Aug 2012 #26
Exactly... Lucy Goosey Aug 2012 #7
Here in sevierville tn we keep alcohol out of our restaurants but can buy it at krogers. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #14
I really hate to admit this, but I fully expect an arson fire there within a month of its opening. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #4
Or a shooting Sick of the GOP Aug 2012 #20
I'm proud to say we've had one here in an east KY town for quite some time... Comrade_McKenzie Aug 2012 #5
Likewise here in Sheboygan county. Archae Aug 2012 #16
Difficult for me to accept that I live in an America... LanternWaste Aug 2012 #13
Descent bongbong Aug 2012 #28
I hope the local religious leaders gather to ensure a safe and joyous opening. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #15
Makes us hayseeds in Alabama proud to not be from Tenn. BlueNAlabama Aug 2012 #17
 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
1. I sure hope they have video cameras outside to catch idiots trying to burn it down. I
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:13 PM
Aug 2012

am sure it isn't over for them.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
3. The mayor should have just said that the mosque doesn't stand for the values
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:50 PM
Aug 2012

the Nashville stands for.

Then he'd have widespread support on here.

/referencing the Mayor of Chicago saying the same thing to keep out chickfila.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
8. Democrats support the constitution as well
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:13 PM
Aug 2012

do they not?

/the ACLU took that case. I guess they are a bunch of vicious rightwingers.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
9. Oh yeah!
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:36 PM
Aug 2012

I forgot! The ACLU is the absolute arbiter of Liberalism, especially since they were on the wrong side of Citizens United.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
10. Just to be clear
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:38 PM
Aug 2012

you support selectively enforcing the law to penalize companies for their political views?

And bear in mind you can't limit it to just this one case. Once the precedent is set it's a free-for-all. Meaning it could be used to go after companies that are pro-gay marriage as well. Or pro-choice. Or pro-Obama.

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
11. How would the mayor of Nashville...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:46 PM
Aug 2012

...blocking a mosque because of "values" be different from the mayor of Chicago blocking a Chickfila because of "values"? I'm not being facetious, I'm really asking. To me, it's hard to imagine logically being able to justify one and not the other.

And while I disagree with the ACLU on Citizens United, that has nothing to do with their position on this situation.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
12. The same?
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:15 PM
Aug 2012

> To me, it's hard to imagine logically being able to justify one and not the other.

I guess something you're born with like your sexual desires is the same thing as religion. You're born with your religion. It's the same thing as sexual orientation.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
19. Legally you aren't allowed to discriminate based on either
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:54 PM
Aug 2012

saying you won't hire homosexuals is just as illegal as saying you won't hire Muslims.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
21. Thanks
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:39 PM
Aug 2012

> saying you won't hire homosexuals is just as illegal as saying you won't hire Muslims.

Well then it's good that this issue isn't about hiring somebody. Were you mentioning "Strawman argument" in another thread? Thanks for illustrating one.





 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
22. Not at all. Don't get testy because you didn't understand the point I was making
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

just ask for an explanation next time. I'm always happy to educate someone who wishes to learn.

I try to write in a way that is broadly accessible but sometimes I overestimate my audience.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
23. LOL
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:51 PM
Aug 2012

> I'm always happy to educate someone who wishes to learn.

I like how you accuse me of Strawman while inflicting a steady stream of them upon DU.

You HAVE proven that you're quite a psychological projector. I do understand that.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
25. Some more non-literal thinking on your part?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:57 PM
Aug 2012

lit·er·al?
?[lit-er-uhl] Show IPA
adjective
1.
in accordance with, involving, or being the primary or strict meaning of the word or words; not figurative or metaphorical: the literal meaning of a word.
2.
following the words of the original very closely and exactly: a literal translation of Goethe.
3.
true to fact; not exaggerated; actual or factual: a literal description of conditions.
4.
being actually such, without exaggeration or inaccuracy: the literal extermination of a city.
5.
(of persons) tending to construe words in the strict sense or in an unimaginative way; matter-of-fact; prosaic.

I think 3 and 4 are particularly applicable here. You condemn others for speaking truthfully and not in an exaggerated or inaccurate manner. One could only assume that means you do not speak truthfully or accurately.

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
27. Oh really?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:25 PM
Aug 2012

> You condemn others for speaking truthfully

A gun-religionist's idea of truth will always be tainted by the object of his worship - his Precious. The extreme irrationality that accompanies gun-worship works against healthy living.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
24. Because a mosque is a place of worship, and there's a constitutional guarantee of religious freedom?
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:55 PM
Aug 2012

Oh, I forgot about the 25th Amendment, that guarantees the right to keep and bear chicken sandwiches.

Lucy Goosey

(2,940 posts)
7. Exactly...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:10 PM
Aug 2012

This Tennessee mosque situation illustrates exactly why I agree with the ACLU in the "mayors-of-Chicago-and-Boston vs. Chickfila" showdown.

part man all 86

(367 posts)
14. Here in sevierville tn we keep alcohol out of our restaurants but can buy it at krogers.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:38 PM
Aug 2012

One is a business and one is a right. That is how I make the distinction. The mosque is a right and hick-so-stupid is a business. Back to the alcohol here in sevierville no bars, even restaurants can not serve beer, because baptists are a major force. They used religion for decades to keep sevierville dry and the county until the 80's, dry. Now they hide behind drunk driving, it will bring deliquents, and crime will go up etc and etc to keep it out of sevierville and pigeon forge, except at grocery and convenient stores. But really it is their religion that keeps alcohol limited thus stops businesses from building. No different than the mayors.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
4. I really hate to admit this, but I fully expect an arson fire there within a month of its opening.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:55 PM
Aug 2012

Neighbors gotta show Gawd's love, you know.

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
5. I'm proud to say we've had one here in an east KY town for quite some time...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:00 PM
Aug 2012

With absolutely no incidents that I've heard about.

Keeping my fingers crossed.

Archae

(46,336 posts)
16. Likewise here in Sheboygan county.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 05:37 PM
Aug 2012

A guy converted an abandoned health-food store into a mosque in the town of Wilson, the anti-Muslims hysterics went apeshit.

That was two years ago, hasn't been any problems at all.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Difficult for me to accept that I live in an America...
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

Difficult for me to accept that I live in an America in which county judges do their best to prevent a church from opening, and once it is open, that same church will require around the clock surveillance, and serious security merely to exist. Quite the bitter little pill for me to swallow...

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
28. Descent
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:29 PM
Aug 2012

America is writing a book, and adding a new chapter every day.

It's called "The Descent Of Man". Thanks to the crew at AM Radio, Fox "news", and the GOP.

part man all 86

(367 posts)
15. I hope the local religious leaders gather to ensure a safe and joyous opening.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:41 PM
Aug 2012

Their safety will be in my prayers.

 

BlueNAlabama

(27 posts)
17. Makes us hayseeds in Alabama proud to not be from Tenn.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:28 PM
Aug 2012

Lord knows Alabama has it's share of problems but things like this make me happy to not be from Tenn.
I must be nuts??? Roy Moore will soon be re-elected to the State Supreme Court and if that clown gets his way he would establish his own little "Talabama".
Any blue states looking for a "older" laid off Shuttle engineer?

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