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Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:16 AM

Mnuchin: NFL players 'can do free speech on their own time'

Source: Politico



By KEVIN ROBILLARD 09/24/2017 10:06 AM EDT

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin backed President Donald Trump's days of attacks on NFL players, saying athletes "can do free speech on their own time."

Since a Friday rally in Alabama, Trump has suggested players who have knelt during the national anthem in order to protest racism and police brutality should be kicked out of the league. Most players who have participated in the protests are black.

"I think what the president is saying is that the owners should have a rule that players should have to stand in respect for the national anthem," Mnuchin said on ABC's "This Week." "This isn't about Democrats, it's not about Republicans, it's not about race, it's not about free speech. They can do free speech on their own time. That this is about respect for the military and first responders in the country."

Mnuchin made similar remarks Sunday on CNN's "State of the Union."

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Reply Mnuchin: NFL players 'can do free speech on their own time' (Original post)
DonViejo Sep 2017 OP
truthisfreedom Sep 2017 #1
Scarsdale Sep 2017 #6
PSPS Sep 2017 #2
oberliner Sep 2017 #3
SweetieD Sep 2017 #4
PubliusEnigma Sep 2017 #5
Control-Z Sep 2017 #18
rlegro Sep 2017 #41
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Zoonart Sep 2017 #7
Aristus Sep 2017 #8
Julian Englis Sep 2017 #9
Control-Z Sep 2017 #22
bettyellen Sep 2017 #35
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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:19 AM

1. You vill zubmit zu our nationaliztic xenophobia!

Zubmit! Zubmit! No thinking on your own!

They're doubling down on divisiveness. Completely tone-deaf.

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Response to truthisfreedom (Reply #1)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:22 AM

6. What a nerve!!

He was using taxpayer money to fly government jets for the eclipse and his honeymoon. If he is SO patriotic, why is he depleting the treasury? He will have to pay for his NEXT honeymoon, since this is his 4th wife, he has a habit of serial marriages. With a face like that, he is lucky he is rich. Like tRump, only gold diggers are flocking around him.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:19 AM

2. Take your taxpayer-funded private jet to a game and talk it over with the players.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:21 AM

3. There should also be a rule about using taxpayer money to fly on private jets

 

Just a thought.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:21 AM

4. Just like he could see the eclipse on his own time and not employ use if a government plane.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:21 AM

5. Shut your mouth, Steve. You're on the People's time.

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Response to PubliusEnigma (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:36 AM

18. Not to mention

the people's dime.

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Response to PubliusEnigma (Reply #5)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 03:05 PM

41. And kneeling NFL players on the field aren't on the public's time.

Free speech is sometimes inconvenient. It's simply out of bounds, though, for government officials, elected or appointed, to instruct private businesses how to manage the free expression of their employees, at the workplace or anywhere else. Remember, too, that it's Republicans who have insisted for years that the government has no right to regulate broadcasters, even though they enjoy the use of the public airwaves. This spoilied rich guy and Trump kneeler has much to learn.

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Response to rlegro (Reply #41)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 04:59 PM

45. K & R Thank you, great perspective!

tRump's entire team has no concept of the term "public servant". They're all privileged elitist spoiled brats.

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Response to rlegro (Reply #41)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:13 PM

57. That's the important point

When you're at work it's up to the boss to set the rules on things like protesting, not the government.

If I put up protest banners in my workplace, I'd be told to take them down and would be fired if I didn't . I think that's probably true of most jobs.

The last thing a company wants is to get in the middle of a political argument.

So it's really none of the government's business.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:24 AM

7. No political protest on "Company Time"?

The birth of unions resulted from protest on company time. This is uniion busting pure and simple.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:25 AM

8. Creep. If someone murders a member of his family, is he going to wait until after punching out

to express his outrage and grief?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:26 AM

9. 18 U.S. Code 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entitys employment decisions

18 U.S. Code § 227 - Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch

(a) Whoever, being a covered government person, with the intent to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity—
(1) takes or withholds, or offers or threatens to take or withhold, an official act, or
(2) influences, or offers or threatens to influence, the official act of another,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than 15 years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
(b) In this section, the term “covered government person” means—
(1) a Senator or Representative in, or a Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress;
(2) an employee of either House of Congress; or
(3) the President, Vice President, an employee of the United States Postal Service or the Postal Regulatory Commission, or any other executive branch employee (as such term is defined under section 2105 of title 5, United States Code).
(Added Pub. L. 110–81, title I, § 102(a), Sept. 14, 2007, 121 Stat. 739; amended Pub. L. 112–105, § 18(a), Apr. 4, 2012, 126 Stat. 304.)


LOCK THEM UP!!!

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Response to Julian Englis (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:49 AM

22. I feel like we have been overlooking this

most important point. Is it the normalization of the trump maggot that allows us to skip over U.S. law? When was it ever legal for a supposed president to tell a private organization to fire someone?

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #22)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:59 AM

35. And it's habitual- one of the women who turned him down had some tv job and he made calls to try

 

And get her fired. That got lost in the "grab her" story.

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Response to Julian Englis (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:56 AM

23. As much as I detest Trump and his race baiting shit, he didn't break any law

Read the statute:

First, it requires that the intent to influence an employment decision or employment action solely on the basis of "partisan political affiliation" -- Trump didn't single out Democrats -- and kneeling (or supporting those who do) doesn't in and of itself make you a Democrat.

Second, the law, plainly, applies where the attempt to influence an employment decision is effectuated by taking or withholding (or threatening to take or withhold) an "official act", or to influence or offer or threaten to influence another to take or withhold an "official act" -- again, Trump didn't do that here.

In 2007, US Senator Barack Obama publicly suggested that CBS Radio had not gone far enough when it merely suspended, rather than fire, Don Imus for his racist rants. Obama's comments were lawful. The difference is that his were appropriate while Trump's were wildly abhorrent.

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Response to Julian Englis (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:10 AM

28. Julian, Julain , Julian

Just like a liberal, thinking the rules apply to everybody

I'ts

O

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If

You

Are

Rethug

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Response to Julian Englis (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:34 AM

31. but wait , trump dosent give a hoot hoot hoot about our laws .

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Response to Julian Englis (Reply #9)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 04:09 PM

43. Is Mnuchin an "executive branch employee"?

He's a political appointee, in which position he does not enjoy the job protections that a GS-something has.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #43)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:15 PM

58. Yes

But as explained the elements of a 227!viilation don't exist here.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:26 AM

10. And YOU can fly on your Lear's and Gulfstreams on YOUR time,and YOUR nickle.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:29 AM

11. Bullshit.... that's totally between the players and the NFL

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:33 AM

12. The game is not going on during the national anthem, you little widow-robbing dipshit.

And taking a knee does not disrupt the national anthem in any way.

Those players are still working for and earning their money, unlike you, you taxpayer-dollar-thieving, 98-year-old-widow-foreclosing criminal.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:34 AM

13. Not your decision congress critter.

 

If owners don't like it, they can fire these guys at any time, then The NFLPA can go on strike if they don't like that, and so on. It's a lot more difficult to tell a bunch of highly skilled millionaires what to do without significantly hurting your business. They're the product. Some loser in Congress giving his hot take doesn't mean a damn thing.

Hell, this all may have blown over with Kaepernick looking like an eccentric outsider if Republican politicians could have kept their mouths shut. Trump calling them names, and demanding a boycott and firing probably is the best possible scenario for Kaepernick. He's getting more support since then than he ever did before.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:34 AM

14. Mnuchin should focus on doing personal travel on his own dime. nt

 

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Response to DRoseDARs (Reply #14)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:35 AM

15. +1

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:35 AM

16. Where has "military and first responders" come from?

The national anthem is about the nation, not particular members of it. Now, it happens that this dispute is about one part of the "first responders", ie the police, having some members who are violent or murderous to black Americans. The problem is those members are not living up to the standards of the nation that they ought to. And Trump and his regime are happy with the violence and deaths.

Mnuchin doesn't get to hide behind "the military and first responders".

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:04 AM

25. Mnuchin doesn't get to hide behind "the military and first responders."

In a nutshell! What a disingenuous and foul smelling excuse. He is a smarmy fuck.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 02:36 PM

37. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"--Samuel Johnson

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 04:10 PM

44. And while we're on the subject of first responders, the money

spent flying him to see the eclipse would have gone a long way toward buying firefighting equipment.

Guns versus butter.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:31 PM

63. My initial reaction to that line was to note the blurring, blending, linking of

'"first responders" into the military fold. Police et al. are not military, and it's dangerous to act as if they are - no matter how much RWers want to militarize our law enforcement and pretend that it's all the same.

And you're right, there's a whole 'nother issue there of making "military" the focus and meaning of patriotism and our national symbols. Which is more jingoism than patriotism...

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 07:47 AM

69. Was Just Going To Ask The Same Question

In the verse we use for the anthem, not once is a soldier mentioned. Yeah, it's about the bombardment of a fort, but the guys in that fort who were bombed all night are not even mentioned once. Then, at the very end, we get the "home of the brave" line. But, those "brave" could be everybody or anybody. Key doesn't mention the soldiers.

Also, i'm sick of the notion that we have our freedoms because of military sacrifice. There hasn't been a war in my lifetime that protected my freedoms. (Ok, maybe the freedom to buy gas that isn't $6 a gallon.)

People need to read the Declaration. In there, it says rights in inalienable. That means they aren't granted by anybody, rather they just exist. I don't need Mnuchin to remind me of anything, and i don't rely on weasels like him to protect rights.

He's a willfully ignorant fool, no matter what level of education he obtained.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:38 PM

82. Exactly. They haven't got a clue, but they are perfectly

willing to implement jingoism to suit their requirements to use our kids as cannon fodder.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #16)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 04:16 PM

84. The right has been deifying them

since September of 2001.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:36 AM

17. Fart Noises

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:43 AM

19. Munchkin can start paying for his own travel

and quit using my tax money to chauffer him and wifey around for eclipse-viewing and honeymoon vacation.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:46 AM

20. The NFL owners seem to support their players.

Does Mnuchin think they work for him?????

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:48 AM

21. Munchkin...

and everybody else in the Trump Administration is a f#&king idiot and they all need to go

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 10:58 AM

24. The military did not fight to defend a flag or a song

They fought to defend the rights guaranteed to us under the Constitution, including the right to free speech.

In other words, they fought to defend the right of any and all Americans -- including football players -- to engage in expressive, symbolic conduct.

Mnuchin is a moron.

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Response to onenote (Reply #24)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:28 PM

49. That's the oath I took

 

Support and defend The Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:04 AM

26. Want respect? Give respect. Grifters like Trump & Mnuchin can't understand. nt

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:07 AM

27. Mnuchin really needs a bloody nose. What an obnoxious asshole.

And one of the most punchable faces in all of DC.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #27)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 01:55 PM

78. Ugh, he is such a smarmy little weasel!

I saw this disgusting little segment on Sunday while it was happening and I just wanted to smack that smirk right off his ugly face.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:16 AM

29. Mnuchin and trump have done their best to avoid paying taxes in support of our troops and their

 

families...so its pretty funny to hear this bullshit

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:17 AM

30. So he wants a "rule" that players have to stand and respect the flag?

What about "respect is earned, not given" ? Or respect can be lost when so many unarmed black people are gunned down by police without consequences.

Don't we want people standing for the anthem and flag because that is what is in their hearts?

Don't we want people reacting to something that is not right when something is going on that is not in their heart?

I'd much rather a stadium half standing and half kneeling over one completely standing when half would rather be kneeling because the former is honest and real. I'll take that every time.

There is a big problem and those kneeling are standing up for what is right.!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:36 AM

32. What happened to the government staying out of private business affairs?

 

For people who say they believe the government should stay out of private business matters they sure have a lot of opinions for what private business owners should do.

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Response to bitterross (Reply #32)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:11 PM

47. But, but, but....don't you dare criticize...

the officers or board of any corporation or their compensation. Unforgivable GOP sin!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:36 AM

33. read the constititution mr. dRumphurher.

esp: the first amendment.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 11:46 AM

34. Somebody please pnuch that guy in the face!

Mnuchin has a face that deserves to be pnuched!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 12:00 PM

36. A new interpretation of the first amendment?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, as long as the people do it on their own time.

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Response to JustABozoOnThisBus (Reply #36)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 09:19 PM

66. Awesome!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 02:45 PM

38. Did the right wingers whine that Tim Tebow should pray on his 'personal time' rather than game time?

Did the right wingers whine that Tim Tebow should pray on his 'personal time' rather than game time?

As Tim made sure he was seen praying in public.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 02:45 PM

39. Unless Mnuchin is a team owner he can kindly STFU

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 02:49 PM

40. When I marched

The colorguard on to nfl fields I don't recall the announcer asking anyone to stand for me. It was about the flag I carried.

Back then no one knelt but it wouldn't have bothered me more than the people who sat. They had their reasons that were not my business and the flag I carried represents the nation and laws that say they are free to do as they wish.

Anyone who stood up for me had it wrong

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 03:51 PM

42. Since when has the flag only stood for the military and LEOs?!

What the hell is that Fascist shit?!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:08 PM

46. I thought it was about us. Mnuchin thinks its about respect

for the military and first responders.

He doesn't understand what our country is about.

What an authoritarian. Where did he go to school?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:24 PM

48. Educate me, please.

Why the hell is a major news organization asking the US Treasury Secretary about another government official's off the wall comments at a political rally?

They should be nailing this guy's ass to the wall over upcoming budget issues, not this sort of populist, sensationalized bullshit.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:44 PM

50. Hey Mnuchin STFU, your job is to be a BEAN COUNTER

Not the one who decides who gets to exercise their first amendment rights and when. Good God, authoritarianism SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 05:49 PM

51. He is Wrong!

Phony b@$t&+d

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 06:28 PM

52. Fact is

 

Employers do have a right to dictate within reason there employees conduct while on the the clock.

Dress code,

Language,

Etc

One major one is you don't piss off customers for no good reason.

But its up to the NFL and owners to decide wether or not they will let their players do what they are doing in regards to the Anthem.

If allowing the players to do the knee doesn't affect the bottom line, it will remain I suppose. If it does, expect a change.

Its all about the money afterall.

Personally, I hate politics of all stripes in sports and entertainment. Entertainment is supposed to be entertaining, an escape from all the bullshit going on in the world. Cant we have one refuge?


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Response to TwinkieHoHo (Reply #52)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 07:20 PM

54. Some folks can afford the luxury of not having politics in every aspect of their

lives, mostly white str8t folks, most every other living soul has to deal with politics whether they are buying socks or a house or dealing with their job.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #54)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 07:25 PM

55. Exactly

 

That being the case, why would you want it in your entertainment as well...

Sometime a cigar (football) is just a cigar (football)



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Response to TwinkieHoHo (Reply #52)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:03 PM

56. "Cant we have one refuge?" Why? Politics affects most of us continuously. Having people many

look up to, or may have some power to help others, show solidarity is a good thing.

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #56)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:17 PM

59. Because most people I would think

 

Don't need or want to have it in their face 24/7

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Response to TwinkieHoHo (Reply #59)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:24 PM

60. Having what in their face, that non white people are treated differently than white people?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #67)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 05:28 AM

68. You don't think a political forum

Is a strange place to expound these views?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #67)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:13 AM

71. Yes, you told us already you have the luxury of being able to ignore politics, race, etc

whenever it suits you.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #67)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:40 AM

73. North Korea?

You mean the place where people are forced to be patriotic? To show devotion to their dear leader? That North Korea?

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Response to mcar (Reply #73)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:33 PM

75. You mean, like having to stand when the ntl anthem is played at sporting events?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #67)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:32 PM

74. Why is the ntl anthem played at sporting event with expectation everyone stand ok, but

some choosing not to stand not ok?

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Response to uppityperson (Reply #74)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 02:20 PM

79. But let's not get political, shall we?

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Response to TwinkieHoHo (Reply #59)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:28 PM

61. Have what in their face?

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Response to TwinkieHoHo (Reply #59)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:31 PM

81. Then why are you here...

this being a political site and all.

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Response to TwinkieHoHo (Reply #52)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 10:13 AM

70. Does your sentiment apply equally to the anthem, itself a political statement, being played?

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Does your sentiment apply equally to the anthem, itself a political statement being forced in your face, being played every time as well as you being forced to hear a silent protest?

If not, what is the precise and relevant difference between having the anthem played as opposed to your current complaint?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 06:33 PM

53. Yeah, and you can pay to charter your own fucking private jet next time, asshole

Oh, how I wish people paid attention to this piece of shit. At least they're paying attention to the great god football. Maybe some of them will start to realize the world aint quite like Pox told them it is.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:30 PM

62. It's a reflection of Mnuchin's incapacity to love.

He thinks that love is a transaction - I pay you money, you pretend to love whatever I think you should.

It's almost certainly the same deal he has going with his wife.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:51 PM

64. Exactly a Repuklican talking point

 

No freedom of speech at work. Well it is their time they are just offering that time and talent for compensation. When I go to work it is my time that i am giving. Nobody can take my time i can only give it. And nobody should take an individuals freedom of speech not even the owner class.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Sep 24, 2017, 08:56 PM

65. As opposed to government time? NFL players are always on NFL time.

"Commander in Chief" does not include the NFL.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 11:16 AM

72. Why is the treasury secretary talking about this shit?

Seriously?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 12:35 PM

76. Treasury secretaries should talk about football on their own time lol!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:01 PM

80. And Minchin can fly on his own dime

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Sep 25, 2017, 03:41 PM

83. You should pay for your

own flights with your own money

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