Bill Clinton's pollster doesn't think much of the race Hillary Clinton ran

[Baconator]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNN

Everyone seems to have a strong opinion about why Hillary Clinton lost.

Clinton herself -- as explained in her new memoir "What Happened" -- puts blame on her campaign, the news media, former FBI director James Comey and WikiLeaks. Donald Trump tweeted this morning that "Crooked Hillary" was simply a "bad candidate."

And now Stan Greenberg, the man who served as the lead pollster for Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign (and Al Gore's 2000 campaign) has written a long essay titled "How She Lost" that slams Clinton (and her campaign) for a series of messaging, tactical and broader strategic errors.

Greenberg concludes: "For me, the most glaring examples include the Clinton campaign's over-dependence on technical analytics; its failure to run campaigns to win the battleground states; the decision to focus on the rainbow base and identity politics at the expense of the working class; and the failure to address the candidate's growing 'trust problem,' to learn from events and reposition."

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/23/politics/stan-greenberg-hillary-clinton/index.html?sr=fbCNNp092317stan-greenberg-hillary-clinton0323PMVODtop&CNNPolitics=fb

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The video is worth a look as well...

[JHan]

1. ah the "identity politics" schtick. I was waiting for it.

[NurseJackie]

3. Thank you!! (You beat me to it!) :-)

[JHan]

4. I don't think they realise the implication of their arguments when they spout that bullshit line.

It's pretty transparent imo.

[ananda]

2. Anything that says Clinton ran anything but a good campaign ..

.. is just wrong.

She didn't lose. The illegitimate election was stolen due to several factors,
including a very biased and bought media; Russian meddling, hacking,
and propaganda; GOP voter suppression; and Comey's letter on her emails.

[justhanginon]

5. Uh, sounds like if only they had hired me! I obviously have all the anwers

ten months later. It's all so simple (in hindsight).

[George II]

6. This isn't helpful.

[delisen]

7. Dem pollsters are marketing themselves to the new

crop of presidential hopefuls.

[elleng]

8. He writes: "Despite overwhelming evidence that the Democratic base wasn't consolidated or excited,

the campaign believed Trump's tasteless attacks and Clinton's identification with every group in the rainbow coalition would produce near-universal support."

Then, later in the essay:

"The progressive debate must now address: What is the role of the working class and white working class? How do you build off of anger toward an economy that fails the middle class, but still align with professionals, innovators, and metropolitan areas? How do you credibly battle corporate influence and corrupted politics? Can you simultaneously advance identity and class politics?"'

[George II]

10. Glad you said essay, I don't see how this qualifies as Latest Breaking News.

[PdxSean]

9. Obama did not run a perfect campaign!

Likewise, Hillary Clinton did not run a perfect campaign. However, Obama was not sabotaged by Comey shortly before the election and Obama was not running against a republican campaign coordinated with Russia, and, frankly, Obama was not dealing with a full level of crazy that Hillary had to deal with. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE HILLARY WAS RUNNING A CHILD-SEX RING IN THE BASEMENT OF A PIZZA PARLOR! I know, I know. Only somewhat crazy people use all caps, but this shit is starting to drive me absofuckinglutelyinsane.

[Liberalagogo]

11. She was so bad that

she won the popular vote.

[Pope George Ringo II]

12. The bottom line is that Donald Trump is in the White House

Logically, that probably means that either Hillary was a terrible candidate (she wasn't), or that the list of things which went wrong was as long as your arm. I'm willing to listen to everything because Hillary losing to Trump is like the 137 things which all need to fail simultaneously before the 747 crashes. Was she the better candidate? Of course she was. Was she a perfect candidate? Of course not. But defeating Trump in 2020 (and his lackeys in 2018) is too important to leave any serious stone unturned. Treason, Comey, voter suppression, sexism, and the rest all need to be addressed, but there's a place for honest critique of a campaign. I'm interested in Hillary's take, and I'm interested in other professional views on the subject.

[muriel_volestrangler]

13. Locking - this is opinion and analysis from yesterday, not Latest Breaking News

LBN requires articles to be under 12 hours old; this is over 24.

Please repost in GD. Thanks.