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muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 07:13 AM Nov 2017

Argentina missing submarine: Loud noise investigated

Source: BBC

Argentina's navy is investigating reports of a loud noise detected a few hours after a submarine went missing.
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A spokesman called the noise a "hydro-acoustic anomaly" and would not confirm whether there had been an explosion.

Captain Enrique Balbi said the situation was getting critical and "concern is growing more and more" amid fears oxygen on board is close to running out.
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The loud noise happened four or five hours after the submarine's last radio contact, about 30 nautical miles (60 kilometres) north of its last-known position.


Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-42092897

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Argentina missing submarine: Loud noise investigated (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 OP
Off-hand, and it's not like I have any special knowledge of this, Igel Nov 2017 #1
Well... Shipwack Nov 2017 #2
Hopefully they got some watertight doors shut if they had an "event" EX500rider Nov 2017 #3
This happened 8 days ago - and the Macri regime knew this from the start. sandensea Nov 2017 #4
I think you may have misunderstood the press reports muriel_volestrangler Nov 2017 #5
It was leaked in the sense that otherwise, the Macri regime would not have reported it. sandensea Nov 2017 #6

Igel

(35,309 posts)
1. Off-hand, and it's not like I have any special knowledge of this,
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 09:24 AM
Nov 2017

but "loud noise" and "submarine" don't strike me as words that should probably be in the same sentence without the word "not" prominently featured.

Shipwack

(2,162 posts)
2. Well...
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 01:25 PM
Nov 2017

As a former submariner I can agree with you that they are not. However, not all loud noises are intentional, especially ones caused by a disastrous malfunction...

EX500rider

(10,848 posts)
3. Hopefully they got some watertight doors shut if they had an "event"
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 02:29 PM
Nov 2017

...could still be survivors in part of the sub but time is running out to find them air-wise.

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
4. This happened 8 days ago - and the Macri regime knew this from the start.
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 03:07 PM
Nov 2017

And the public only found out thanks to a leak from the Argentine Embassy in Austria!

Argentina's largely right-wing press is trying to minimize it; but families of the 44 (presumably dead) crew members are, understandably, livid.

Macri, who doesn't make a move without say-so from his Karl Rove (a Nazi sympathizer called Jaime Durán Barba), is covering something up - but what?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,318 posts)
5. I think you may have misunderstood the press reports
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 03:26 PM
Nov 2017
He was commenting on information the navy received on Thursday from the Comprehensive nuclear Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO), an international body that runs a global network of listening posts designed to check for secret atomic blasts.

The Vienna-based agency, which has monitoring stations equipped with devices including underwater microphones that scan the oceans for sound waves, said in a statement that two of its stations had detected an unusual signal near where the submarine went missing. But the agency was more guarded about whether this was caused by an explosion.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-argentina-submarine-flight/possible-explosion-detected-near-missing-argentine-subs-last-known-location-idUSKBN1DN19V

The Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization (CTBTO), based in Vienna, registered a short, violent, non-nuclear and anomalous event "consistent with an explosion" on November 15, when the submarine disappeared.

The Argentinian embassy in Vienna passed the information to the government in Buenos Aires.
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A CTBTO statement talked of "a signal from an underwater impulsive event," meaning that the shock occurred in the water and not on the sea bed.

CTBTO spokeswoman Elisabeth Waechter said it took her organization time to transmit its findings because the detected shock was small and therefore difficult to analyze.

http://www.qatar-tribune.com/Latest-News/argentinian-submarine-appears-to-have-exploded-navy-says

sandensea

(21,635 posts)
6. It was leaked in the sense that otherwise, the Macri regime would not have reported it.
Thu Nov 23, 2017, 03:51 PM
Nov 2017

Indeed, they only disclosed this to the families today - only because they were forced to do so by the report you mention above, a week after the actual incident, and after 6 days of placating them with assurances it was a "small fire or other slight fault."

There were, as you can imagine, incidents during the briefing.

They were also informed that the crew are all dead. They no doubt knew this since last Friday (two days after the explosion, when they first disclosed the incident), which is why Macri and his Defense Minister (former dictatorship official Oscar Aguad) have left it to this poor guy Balbi to do all the talking.

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