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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 02:34 PM Dec 2017

Mistrial declared in case against Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy

Source: Reuters




DECEMBER 20, 2017 / 1:08 PM / UPDATED 11 MINUTES AGO

John L. Smith

LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - A federal judge on Wednesday declared a mistrial in the criminal case of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who led a 2014 armed standoff with U.S. government agents in a range-land dispute, and set a new trial date of Feb. 26, 2018.

Bundy, two of his sons and another man had been charged with 15 criminal counts stemming from the confrontation, which galvanized right-wing militia groups challenging federal authority over vast tracts of public lands in the American West.

U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro told federal prosecutors that they had willfully violated evidence rules and failed to turn over pertinent documents to the defense. Navarro had warned prosecutors last week that she might declare a mistrial.

The revolt, against the federal Bureau of Land Management, by Bundy and armed followers was sparked by the court-ordered roundup of Bundy’s cattle in April 2014 after he had refused for two decades to pay fees required to graze his herds on federal property.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nevada-militia/mistrial-declared-in-case-against-nevada-rancher-cliven-bundy-idUSKBN1EE2ED?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social&__twitter_impression=true

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Mistrial declared in case against Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2017 OP
WTGF!!!!! heaven05 Dec 2017 #1
Well, john657 Dec 2017 #2
Rumblings last week about Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #7
Never understood john657 Dec 2017 #10
The desire to feel important! janx Dec 2017 #12
I never saw this vid of the idiots- that was HILARIOUS thanks LOL snooper2 Dec 2017 #29
I know. I've probably watched it ten times! janx Dec 2017 #30
If that judge rules janx Dec 2017 #11
Hopefully she does not rule Prejudice. Wellstone ruled Dec 2017 #14
God I hope not. janx Dec 2017 #16
It's possible atreides1 Dec 2017 #25
That is what happened. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2017 #32
just what happened heaven05 Dec 2017 #18
LOL!! john657 Dec 2017 #22
At best, a jury in this case will hang and the white wing Bundy racists will walk. Hoyt Dec 2017 #3
We have to worry that prosecutors tank the trial on purpose. L. Coyote Dec 2017 #4
Exactly! 2naSalit Dec 2017 #5
that's what it seems rockfordfile Dec 2017 #9
It may well have been a slam dunk john657 Dec 2017 #13
And I like what was being called evidence of prejudice by the defense NCDem777 Dec 2017 #17
Ever the victims, the Bundys are ALWAYS victims: janx Dec 2017 #20
If you're white and wear a cowboy hat out there, you walk. (nt) Paladin Dec 2017 #6
What's the cost on this fiasco by now? Frustratedlady Dec 2017 #8
Post removed Post removed Dec 2017 #15
Sorry, but I can't get behind this. john657 Dec 2017 #21
I don't see any other way NCDem777 Dec 2017 #23
And the Constitution and the Bill of Rights john657 Dec 2017 #24
I agree with you. n/t janx Dec 2017 #33
Thank you. john657 Dec 2017 #35
You don't know that the juries will always agree with militia psychos, janx Dec 2017 #34
Did Sessions foul this case up? Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2017 #19
There is no justice in this world anymore. Vinca Dec 2017 #26
There never was. It was always just an illusion to keep the working class's nose to the grindstone. walkingman Dec 2017 #28
Hopefully karma will bite them on the ass in the form of the Koch Bros. or oil companies... crowman2016 Dec 2017 #27
Drought never stopped these people before... n/t janx Dec 2017 #31
Whiteness wins again... Blue_Tires Dec 2017 #36
 

john657

(1,058 posts)
2. Well,
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 02:44 PM
Dec 2017

when prosecutors fail to turn over evidence to the defense, what did you think would happen?

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Rumblings last week about
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:08 PM
Dec 2017

the Prosecution not turning over files to the Defense,one thing that raised a Red Flag a couple months back,when the Lead Agent from the BLM was fired. He was the Lead in the.Law Enforcement at Bunkerville.We who followed this case saw the same miss steps as the similiar case in Portland Oregon.

This will fuel the Militia Movement here in Nevada and Utah in a major way. In the last week,noticed huge increase of Militia Flags and Symbols showing up.

janx

(24,128 posts)
30. I know. I've probably watched it ten times!
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 05:16 PM
Dec 2017

"Isn't there a BEER I have have over there? One BEER?"


janx

(24,128 posts)
11. If that judge rules
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:17 PM
Dec 2017

"mistrial with prejudice," those guys are going to walk. And that is certain to fuel the movement.

atreides1

(16,093 posts)
25. It's possible
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:40 PM
Dec 2017

New administration, Trump needs people like the Bundy clan...wouldn't be surprised if Sessions had a little "talk" with the prosecution team, and the main BLM agent involved being fired couldn't be a coincidence, either!!!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
18. just what happened
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:33 PM
Dec 2017

either it would have been this or something to cast doubt on a tax evader/white nationalist/nazi that has a bill due to the government that I would NEVER be allowed to carry....I owed IRS 1600 bucks, they threatened do detesticularize me if I did not pay...fuck this ....

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
22. LOL!!
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:50 PM
Dec 2017
I owed IRS 1600 bucks, they threatened do detesticularize me if I did not pay


I know exactly what you mean.
 

john657

(1,058 posts)
13. It may well have been a slam dunk
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:21 PM
Dec 2017

if the prosecution had turned over all the evidence to the defense.

If these assholes walk, it will be on the prosecutors shoulders.

 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
17. And I like what was being called evidence of prejudice by the defense
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:29 PM
Dec 2017

Boo hoo, a bunch of anarchists threatening shoot government agents enforcing laws that they don't like and claiming that they only have to obey the laws they do, are complaining that the government agents they threatened to shoot talked smack about them, in private communications.

That's not evidence of corruption. That's a day at the office in every police department in the world. Most officers talk shit about criminals they pursue. Especially stupid ones (like drunk yokels thinking they get to shoot government agents). Since the judge lets the Bundys off, then just about every jailbird alive this second from the Federal prisons on down to the county drunk tank needs a review. After all, if the police talked smack about them, they're being prejudiced.

Jailhouse phonecall monitoring? Welcome to jail. They tend to like knowing what you're talking about and you don't get privacy in jail aside from attorney-client privilege. Lesson? Don't do things that get your ass sent to jail. Like threatening to shoot people because the judge didn't do what you wanted and you have a sad.

An arrest tracking wall? That's pretty normal. Most PD's with people the local community wants arrested have one of those.

There's gonna be a Dem President in the future and I sincerely hope they don't make the mistakes of the last two and start putting these anti-society nutcases down. Kent State style. No month-long standoff crap. No arresting them and putting them on trial before a jury of people who agree with their beliefs. Otherwise, these armed lunatics will keep thinking that they can get whatever they want by threatening to gun down LEO's.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
21. Sorry, but I can't get behind this.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:44 PM
Dec 2017
Do what a RW admin would do to a LW group doing stupid crap: Kil them. Kent State these motherfuckers. If they hide behind children, too bad. Then offer supporters a one-way ticket to the government and gun law free Somalia. It'll be their own slice of paradise.


I still believe in the rule of law, no matter who it applies to.
 

NCDem777

(458 posts)
23. I don't see any other way
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 03:55 PM
Dec 2017

The juries will always acquit not because of evidence or lack of it. But because they agree with the militia psychos.

Unless we start drawing lines in the sand, any election is meaningless because militias will grind government to a halt every time someone to left of Ayn Rand is elected.

The Constitution gives the government the right to deal with threats foreign and domestic. And these militias are a domestic threat.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
24. And the Constitution and the Bill of Rights
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:34 PM
Dec 2017

gives the accused the right to a jury trial, something I not willing to change.

 

john657

(1,058 posts)
35. Thank you.
Sat Dec 23, 2017, 03:04 PM
Dec 2017

It never ceases to amaze how many people are willing to shred the Constitution just because they have a different opinion on something or are frustrated with the laws.

janx

(24,128 posts)
34. You don't know that the juries will always agree with militia psychos,
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 11:00 PM
Dec 2017

do you?

I understand your frustration and wholeheartedly agree with the last sentence.

walkingman

(7,658 posts)
28. There never was. It was always just an illusion to keep the working class's nose to the grindstone.
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:48 PM
Dec 2017

I used to think that people would wake up but I've pretty much conceited that it will never happen. White privilege is alive and well. Money talks and everything else is just rhetoric.

crowman2016

(15 posts)
27. Hopefully karma will bite them on the ass in the form of the Koch Bros. or oil companies...
Wed Dec 20, 2017, 04:47 PM
Dec 2017

...either taking over or contaminating their ranch land. A drought would be nice as well.

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