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inanna

(3,547 posts)
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:10 AM Dec 2017

Ex-FBI agent warns that Russia hasn't stopped cyber attacks and the US is doing nothing about it

Source: Raw Story

Brad Reed
27 Dec 2017 at 08:36 ET

Clinton Watts, a former FBI Special Agent who is now a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, warned MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that Russia is still launching cyber attacks aimed at disrupting American democracy.

A “Morning Joe” panel on Wednesday began by reading an op-ed written in the Washington Post by former acting CIA Director Mike Morell and former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Mike Rogers, who argue that Russia hasn’t at all stopped its efforts to interfere with American elections by pushing propaganda through social media.

“The Kremlin playbook never stopped,” Watts explained. “For a non-election year, it’s about audience sustainment and infiltration… You pick an audience that you really want to cozy up to, and you just repeat what they say.”

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Even more disturbing, he said, is that the United States government isn’t doing anything to counter these efforts.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/ex-fbi-agent-warns-that-russia-hasnt-stopped-cyber-attacks-and-the-us-is-doing-nothing-about-it/

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Ex-FBI agent warns that Russia hasn't stopped cyber attacks and the US is doing nothing about it (Original Post) inanna Dec 2017 OP
Even more disturbing are the factions of our dewsgirl Dec 2017 #1
factions of our government are in power thanks to Russian interference DBoon Dec 2017 #5
Specifically, Trump is doing nothing about it C_U_L8R Dec 2017 #2
I believe this Russian Cyber Attack is ongoing! FarPoint Dec 2017 #3
The Russians play the long game. This has been going on for awhile GusBob Dec 2017 #4
It was discovered a long time ago. Igel Dec 2017 #6
Great reply/ good post GusBob Dec 2017 #7
the GOP needs Russia in 2018 Skittles Dec 2017 #8

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. Even more disturbing are the factions of our
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:14 AM
Dec 2017

Government that will help and encourage them if they think they can get away with it.

DBoon

(22,391 posts)
5. factions of our government are in power thanks to Russian interference
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 12:34 PM
Dec 2017

Why would they want to stop it?

FarPoint

(12,425 posts)
3. I believe this Russian Cyber Attack is ongoing!
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:32 AM
Dec 2017

tRump has no desire to change this ....none what so ever!

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
4. The Russians play the long game. This has been going on for awhile
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 11:46 AM
Dec 2017

There is plenty of blame to go around for letting it happen going back to the previous administration

The greater blame is that nothing has been done about it once discovered

Igel

(35,337 posts)
6. It was discovered a long time ago.
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 03:27 PM
Dec 2017

Problem is, the president and his SOS du jour were still trying for "reset", trying not to let things get out of control over Crimea/Donbass, trying not to have to backtrack over Russia's being an adversary.

The other problem is trying to figure out what to do about it. The 2nd amendment could easily be used to let people have weapons to either commit crimes or start an insurgency. The 1st amendment could easily be used to cause division and promote hate or to foment sedition.

Part of the "game" is studiously ignored. Before the Russians supported Trump, they supported anybody-but-Hillary--which, after the primary, is easily identical with "pro-Trump", and which was a conclusion of the intelligence report people likely to partially cite. As soon as Trump was elected, the Rusbots shifted and started promoting dissent against Trump--which is also compatible with goals in the report (but not the third, redundant one).

And yet, what do you do about it? To squelch the pro-Trump agitation and anti-HRC propaganda would be to take a fine scalpel to the distinction between "those supporting the Russians and those freely supporting an electoral candidate"; we'd draw that line in a completely different place after the election, as we had to decide between "those supporting the Russians and those freely criticizing a sitting president." In other words, the actions would be political; and, necessarily, partisan.

Apart from saying, "Americans need to have confidence in each other and be wise and smart enough not to be fooled," I've got nothing. And with that, all I've got is a bad joke.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
7. Great reply/ good post
Wed Dec 27, 2017, 04:16 PM
Dec 2017

I've gotten nothing much either

But it just seems to me more should have been done in 2 phases August-September of 2016 when there was too much at stake and just enough to lose....and then late November thru Jan when the horse was out of the barn

As an example: facebook political ads being paid in rubles. You don't have to be that smart to know you're being fooled that easily. Turns out Obama knew but only warned FB when he should've been warning everybody

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