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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:35 AM Aug 2012

Ann Romney: No More Tax Returns Will Be Released

Source: Huffington Post




In an interview with NBC set to air Thursday, Ann Romney, wife of Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, said her husband's campaign will not release any additional tax returns to the public ahead of the election.

"We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us," Romney told reporter Natalie Morales, according to excerpts from NBC News. "There's going to be no more tax releases given."

Defying a longstanding trend among presidential candidates, the Romney campaign has only released a single -- and likely incomplete -- tax return. Politicians and pundits from both sides of the aisle have been pressuring Romney for weeks to disclose more of his tax history, culminating with a claim from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) two weeks ago that he'd heard from an early investor in Bain Capital that Romney didn’t pay any taxes for a decade. Romney has denied that claim.

Ann Romney said that releasing more details on the family's taxes would merely give the Obama campaign "more ammunition." The Romneys' wealth is rumored to be as much as $250 million, and since much of Mitt Romney's earnings come from investments, he would pay a lower effective tax rate than many lesser-off Americans. But as for whether the campaign is trying to withhold embarrassing information, Ann Romney told NBC "there's nothing we're hiding."


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/ann-romney-tax-returns_n_1778376.html



No taxes paid for a decade. Confirmed.
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Ann Romney: No More Tax Returns Will Be Released (Original Post) onehandle Aug 2012 OP
She has spoken. n/t BlueToTheBone Aug 2012 #1
LOL! Cha Aug 2012 #137
Anyone bet $10,000 that they will? TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #2
I used to think that, now I think HE is not going to release them corkhead Aug 2012 #83
+1 TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #96
The Romneys think that they own the USA Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2012 #100
His rabid base consider it "standing-up to the man", and he's not losing votes by doing it. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #165
he's not going to lose the votes of the "rabid base." magical thyme Aug 2012 #193
What do you wanna bet a severely doctored version shows up on the Intertubes? Wednesdays Aug 2012 #129
Either that, or a bogus set with real information in it. Frank Cannon Aug 2012 #194
the thing is all he would have to do to prove he paid taxes would be to release the WCGreen Aug 2012 #3
LOL There are no checks. nt SunSeeker Aug 2012 #24
+1 sarcasmo Aug 2012 #68
I'd bet there ARE checks Plucketeer Aug 2012 #105
That was the point... WCGreen Aug 2012 #148
This is what I think. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #196
Yup! Plucketeer Aug 2012 #197
pitiful heaven05 Aug 2012 #4
They think that most powerful position BELONGS to them. Amonester Aug 2012 #123
and just as pitiful MichaelSoE Aug 2012 #195
She's admitting they are criminals and tax evaders. They have not released even one complete Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #5
bingo - they have LOTS to hide Berlum Aug 2012 #10
And like Mitt's dad said we need to see at least 12yrs. cause 2 could be a fluke. The Wielding Truth Aug 2012 #18
His Dad was respected in Michigan for being a decent guy (for an R). amandabeech Aug 2012 #178
There we go - you are correct here. closeupready Aug 2012 #19
Please rein it in... gcomeau Aug 2012 #76
Bingo! Hear, hear indepat Aug 2012 #87
The Rmoney's know that the "trickle down" theory would be destroyed BeHereNow Aug 2012 #154
He sends his wife to send the message? Baitball Blogger Aug 2012 #6
Bold move, isn't it? Major Nikon Aug 2012 #43
LOL Cha Aug 2012 #138
Clearly hiding something devastating. Thanks for lying for Mitt, Ann. JBoy Aug 2012 #7
I really despise this woman. If she becomes the First Lady, I'm seriously thinking about moving Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #8
you and me both. roguevalley Aug 2012 #25
Me as well ArcticFox Aug 2012 #45
Ditto for wife and I. - n/t coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #52
Just let me know where you guys are heading, I'll be on the move..(Make it warm weather, ok?)...n/t monmouth Aug 2012 #54
I can't afford to move anywhere I'll be stuck here Pyrzqxgl Aug 2012 #84
Why would his wife have to make that statement? goclark Aug 2012 #143
that would be canada..... madrchsod Aug 2012 #163
She comes across as smug and superior Freddie Aug 2012 #55
I get the same feeling. SmittynMo Aug 2012 #90
Actually she looks like she... malokvale77 Aug 2012 #114
Nancy Reagan had the charisma of a wet mop rbrnmw Aug 2012 #135
And can you imagine if we'd gotten stuck with Callista Gingrich? Rozlee Aug 2012 #152
There must be! although I hate to admit this I kinda liked Laura Bush, her MIL not so much rbrnmw Aug 2012 #156
at least Babs had a sense of humor though she could be nasty JI7 Aug 2012 #171
She's a cross of Lovey Howell hifiguy Aug 2012 #78
Have to agree! marew Aug 2012 #85
I'm not moving..I live on Kaua'i but Cha Aug 2012 #140
releasing more details on the family's taxes would merely give the Obama campaign "more ammunition." Warren Stupidity Aug 2012 #9
if they have nothing to hide Gin Aug 2012 #26
Why would a serial killer let the cops dig up his basement? onehandle Aug 2012 #32
A perfect analogy. nt hifiguy Aug 2012 #79
"We have been very transparent ...." Botany Aug 2012 #11
Mrs Willard is a damn Cha Aug 2012 #141
God, I hate whiny millionaires! bushisanidiot Aug 2012 #12
Mitt is Unfit (there's your bumpersticker!) NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #13
lol GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #34
Here's my bumper sticker rocktivity Aug 2012 #125
If the sh** fits, we must NOT elect Mitt-- tblue37 Aug 2012 #130
I would like to know how one with so much wealth can legally not pay taxes? I hope Max Keiser midnight Aug 2012 #14
there are many sophisticated way to reduce or avoid taxes, but the simplest is munis unblock Aug 2012 #50
Completely. Un. Acceptable. Ms. Romney. closeupready Aug 2012 #15
Hey, Queen Anne? HughBeaumont Aug 2012 #16
By default, then... Harry Reid was right: Mitt Romney Paid No Income Taxes In The Last 10 Years!! AzDar Aug 2012 #17
Of course they're hiding something; probably many things. Political campaigns don't let WestSeattle2 Aug 2012 #20
I can't wait for the ann--- Aug 2012 #21
she says it herself barbtries Aug 2012 #22
mwooldri: "No more contributions will be released to Romney." mwooldri Aug 2012 #23
Your job application for President has been rejected by "You People" DippyDem Aug 2012 #27
So, "there's nothing we're hiding" except for almost everything. Coyotl Aug 2012 #28
You married a real loser, Ann. Enjoy the ride as the ship sinks. MjolnirTime Aug 2012 #29
She is the manifestation of entitlement. nt SunSeeker Aug 2012 #30
so one incomplete year, 2010, is all we get ? KurtNYC Aug 2012 #31
You noticed that as well. Raine1967 Aug 2012 #73
That's what people forget. They haven't even released ONE complete return. progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #103
Where's Willard? Roy Rolling Aug 2012 #33
So she's the mouth piece for the campaign now? Javaman Aug 2012 #35
I GOT MINE YOU GET YOURS HowHasItComeToThis Aug 2012 #36
"It's our turn"...."You people" n/t Submariner Aug 2012 #63
we need to hit them hard on this riverwalker Aug 2012 #37
"the empress" LOL love it!! ailsagirl Aug 2012 #144
Attn: US Media el scorcho Aug 2012 #38
or... could that be what the Romney campaign is hoping for? renate Aug 2012 #94
"There's nothing we're hiding"? bhikkhu Aug 2012 #39
The Faux viewers don't like Williard either rbrnmw Aug 2012 #134
Fuck her and the horse she pranced in on Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #40
There is something about this woman GallopingGhost Aug 2012 #41
Wanta bet she AsahinaKimi Aug 2012 #42
a closet full of shoes oldhippydude Aug 2012 #61
"more ammunition." shawn703 Aug 2012 #44
These crooks need to be exposed--now! Before the Koch plethoro Aug 2012 #46
"Oh, and our shit doesn't stink either" The_Casual_Observer Aug 2012 #47
Queen Ann Sandy one Aug 2012 #48
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMEN SmittynMo Aug 2012 #93
+1000. closeupready Aug 2012 #121
And yet, Republicans and "independants".... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #49
Glad you put "Independants" (sic) in coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #57
Most of them don't wish to identify as uncool.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2012 #60
I'll take Cindy McCain over Ann Romney NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #70
A US Presidential candidate does not send a spouse out to LibDemAlways Aug 2012 #51
Me neither. My wife and I were just talking about this plethoro Aug 2012 #58
Mitt also sent Ryan out to give him cover too Botany Aug 2012 #62
That way he can go to the "Waaah! You're being mean to a sick woman" tactic Retrograde Aug 2012 #115
He had his son call Pawlenty to tell him he wasn't LibDemAlways Aug 2012 #145
He outsourced his own responsibility to Ann! bullwinkle428 Aug 2012 #155
If Ann had any sense at all she'd tell him he needs to fight LibDemAlways Aug 2012 #168
But, the stupid just burns! hamsterjill Aug 2012 #53
It's Very Simple bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #56
Here's what I don't get: beyurslf Aug 2012 #59
"show a good 20-35% rate"---you mean pay at the same rate as most of us? wordpix Aug 2012 #132
Yeah they should be... beyurslf Aug 2012 #157
Romney himself said 'to pay one penny more than required would show unfitness for presidency' FailureToCommunicate Aug 2012 #179
oh, well, um ok then. beyurslf Aug 2012 #185
See? BrooklynBoy Aug 2012 #64
Doesn't the government already have this information? If they filed, isn't it just a matter of earcandle Aug 2012 #65
I think it was Saint Ronnie who said iwillalwayswonderwhy Aug 2012 #66
I realize it's an old litany evilhime Aug 2012 #67
Yes, there's a "so there" look in this photo Iwillnevergiveup Aug 2012 #69
What a gift. hifiguy Aug 2012 #71
Given Mormon doctrine... truebluegreen Aug 2012 #72
jeebus, Rmoney xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #74
That's it Ann. Keep that topic in the forefront. Good girl. Kablooie Aug 2012 #75
Ya gotta love it. SmittynMo Aug 2012 #91
Does anyone else have a problem ...... citizen blues Aug 2012 #77
Whoring for her hubby. Dont call me Shirley Aug 2012 #80
What a campaign! Out of her own mouth they are hiding things which could be used against them! Lone_Star_Dem Aug 2012 #81
I sincerely hope that somebody on our side has copies of those returns showing that kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #82
We've disclosed all *legally required* documents; what more do You The People want??! eShirl Aug 2012 #86
Only what every presidential candidate has submitted SmittynMo Aug 2012 #92
Release the Taxen! n/t flamingdem Aug 2012 #88
Game over!!! SmittynMo Aug 2012 #89
Every time she opens her mouth, she pours fuel on the fire. StrictlyRockers Aug 2012 #101
Romneys to America - FU Smilo Aug 2012 #95
I am so glad she said this. senseandsensibility Aug 2012 #97
Ann, Ann, Ann Hula Popper Aug 2012 #98
If you've done nothing wrong, there is no "ammunition." Gawd.. the arrogance of "those people." n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #99
AND MITT ROMNEY MEANS IT!! DearAbby Aug 2012 #102
Ann Romney has MS Freddie Aug 2012 #104
She's already told "you people" what she wants you to know. Now go away. TwilightGardener Aug 2012 #106
Something is Mitten in the state of Denmark! Democrats_win Aug 2012 #107
She said 'All You People Need To Know' Brother Buzz Aug 2012 #108
wow queen anne made cindyperry2010 Aug 2012 #109
Al Capone's wife Dierde Marie Capone said almost the same thing about Al's returns. gordianot Aug 2012 #110
Compare this wench to Michelle. SmittynMo Aug 2012 #111
Scumballs Blaspherian Aug 2012 #112
Ann Does A Better Job Of Lying Than Mitt DallasNE Aug 2012 #113
No more taxes will be released because no more taxes can be released! liberal N proud Aug 2012 #116
She might as well have the word "entitled" written on her forehead. polichick Aug 2012 #117
They pay more Tithes than Taxes thelordofhell Aug 2012 #118
"Very transparent" my fat ass. GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #119
Ann you've made it simple for the nation. NO TAX RETURNS....NO PRESIDENCY. swayne Aug 2012 #120
Then consider your campaign effectively over, madam rocktivity Aug 2012 #122
queen ann has spoken shanti Aug 2012 #124
releasing more details on the family's taxes would merely give the Obama campaign "more ammunition." truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #126
"We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us," Life Long Dem Aug 2012 #127
Because Romney's investments are all overseas. Major Hogwash Aug 2012 #128
admitting that releasing more tax info will give Dems "more ammunition" admits a level of wrongdoing wordpix Aug 2012 #131
We need a "Romney didn't pay taxes" superpac johnd83 Aug 2012 #133
How COULD one grow an IRA so Fast? bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #136
Lookie, lookie--that picture is not kind at all. Cruel, in fact! MADem Aug 2012 #139
The reason Ann's face looks the way it does is because she has M.S. Botany Aug 2012 #142
Bull. One of my best friends has MS, is older than Ann and looks NOTHING like that. MADem Aug 2012 #146
The tightness around her mouth and chin is classic MS Botany Aug 2012 #166
Fail. She has been in FULL REMISSION for over a decade. MADem Aug 2012 #173
Ann always has that look of the tightness around her mouth and chin Botany Aug 2012 #183
I am not talking about her chin--get off the damn chin. MADem Aug 2012 #187
This is, truly, a godsend ailsagirl Aug 2012 #147
We can take that as a "yes randr Aug 2012 #149
Romney's a pretty crappy husband, as well steve2470 Aug 2012 #150
Bush was a moron who couldn't string together a coherent LibDemAlways Aug 2012 #174
I agree about GWB and Ann nt steve2470 Aug 2012 #176
Fine Ann, and you'll never be First Lady CanonRay Aug 2012 #151
It's not about YOU, little miss fancy pants! CoffeeCat Aug 2012 #153
Oh look it is another rich broken dick telling us people they are our rulers. Praise ........ part man all 86 Aug 2012 #158
It's Ok Ann Flatpicker Aug 2012 #159
Adding "elitism" to Mitt's hypocrisy. BadgerKid Aug 2012 #160
She does not look at peace or happy riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #161
The more they hide Third Doctor Aug 2012 #162
"There's nothing we're hiding." tabasco Aug 2012 #164
Ugh amuse bouche Aug 2012 #167
Mitt: "I'd love to release more tax information, but my wife won't let me". olddad56 Aug 2012 #169
shouldn't all of this be a red flag for the IRS to audit the Mittster. olddad56 Aug 2012 #170
Super! Prompted me to order a bumper sticker... TripleKatPad Aug 2012 #172
An analogy: HeiressofBickworth Aug 2012 #175
Ann Romney told NBC "there's nothing we're hiding." abelenkpe Aug 2012 #177
"..............what's legally required of us" Skittles Aug 2012 #180
I hope everyone gets up every morning and thinks... Blue Idaho Aug 2012 #181
This is ridiculous. CBHagman Aug 2012 #182
I wonder how many of these there are? FlyinButter Aug 2012 #184
Well isn't she just a little charmer? Marie Marie Aug 2012 #186
I wanna see the tax returns of that goddam dancing horse! onager Aug 2012 #188
Yes, but will she release cake? Kennah Aug 2012 #189
Here's link to the video of Lawrence O'Donnell's smack down of Ann and Mitt regarding what she said Tx4obama Aug 2012 #190
I am elated they are taking this position davidpdx Aug 2012 #191
illogical tomp Aug 2012 #192
Queen Ann Meme Pryderi Aug 2012 #198

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
83. I used to think that, now I think HE is not going to release them
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:58 AM
Aug 2012

but there is a good chance they will leak out, perhaps right before, during, or right after Republi-CON. No sense doing it before they would have a chance to possibly change the nominee.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
193. he's not going to lose the votes of the "rabid base."
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:19 AM
Aug 2012

The sane independents and moderate republicans are a different story.

But I do hope they keep putting Her Royal Haughtiness, Queen Ann, front and center so she can keep telling "you people" to crawl back under the rocks where you belong and quit pestering the royalty with ridiculous demands.

Because the haughty, angry, smug smirk that permeates her being is just such a great selling point. Next to her, Mittens almost looks normal.

Wednesdays

(17,408 posts)
129. What do you wanna bet a severely doctored version shows up on the Intertubes?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:01 PM
Aug 2012

No matter how suspicious it looks, the pugs will scream how forthcoming he's been, and how questioning His Majesty about it is just political persecution.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
194. Either that, or a bogus set with real information in it.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:45 AM
Aug 2012

Worked for George Bush and his National Guard record. They managed to shut down all further discussion of the topic while simultaneously ending Dan Rather's career.

WCGreen

(45,558 posts)
3. the thing is all he would have to do to prove he paid taxes would be to release the
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:39 AM
Aug 2012

checks to the IRS....

If he is afraid of the details of his financial manipulations, he should just release those checks...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
4. pitiful
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:40 AM
Aug 2012

these 1 percenters are truly frightening and pitiful excuses for human beings wanting to occupy the most powerful position in amerikkka.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
123. They think that most powerful position BELONGS to them.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:37 PM
Aug 2012

That's all. They are so used to simply BUY everything and everyone they want, it only grown NATURAL to them.

"And *you people* have no say in regard with what BELONGS to them. Period. Buzz off, *you people*.

I'm not kidding. At what point does it becomes totally TRANSPARENT to the 49% part of the 99% they always screw over and over like the other 50%?

MichaelSoE

(1,576 posts)
195. and just as pitiful
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:16 AM
Aug 2012

is the opposite 1 percent (or maybe it's a higher percentage) that wants to elect him.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
5. She's admitting they are criminals and tax evaders. They have not released even one complete
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:40 AM
Aug 2012

year. They are hiding everything and she says they are hiding nothing. Just a liar.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
178. His Dad was respected in Michigan for being a decent guy (for an R).
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:53 PM
Aug 2012

and being progressive, esp. for an R, on civil rights back in the day.

I'm sure that I would have disagreed with more than a few of the senior Romney's economic policies, but he was a decent moderate northern Republican. I doubt that the senior Romney would be welcome in today's Republican party.

I just wish that the Mittster would go to a medium and try to channel his father, and his mother who was more liberal than the Dad.

I suspect that Mitt would receive quite a talking to!

Not that I will vote for R&R. Quite the opposite!



 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
76. Please rein it in...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:48 AM
Aug 2012

They're not hiding the returns from the IRS after all.

What is almost certainly in them is such a ridiculously low or zero tax rate on massive earnings... probably technically legally but using incredibly weaselly tax loopholes and accounting tricks that most Americans don't realize the rich get to take advantage of... that it will OBLITERATE the entire GOP "boo hoo the rich get taxed too much to create jobs" narrative and wake people up to the inequality in the tax code.

Ignorance of that fact is the only thing Romney has. THAT is what is damaging about the returns. They'll educate people about how badly they're getting screwed.



BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
154. The Rmoney's know that the "trickle down" theory would be destroyed
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:04 PM
Aug 2012

by the release of their tax returns.

We all know that their tax returns would reveal the fact that they have not
invested one dime in the betterment of our country.

Quite the opposite.

The people would DEMAND higher taxes on the wealthiest if they ever learned
how little they pay and that the money is kept offshore, not returned to the economy.

BHN

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
8. I really despise this woman. If she becomes the First Lady, I'm seriously thinking about moving
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:41 AM
Aug 2012

out of this country for good.

Pyrzqxgl

(1,356 posts)
84. I can't afford to move anywhere I'll be stuck here
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:59 AM
Aug 2012

wondering how Americans could be dumb enough to vote for these bastards.

goclark

(30,404 posts)
143. Why would his wife have to make that statement?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:54 PM
Aug 2012

Is she running for President?

She is as crazy as he is ~ !

Freddie

(9,273 posts)
55. She comes across as smug and superior
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:20 AM
Aug 2012

And (if possible) far less likable than her husband.
Reminds me of a young Nancy Reagan who had that same air of superiority.

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
90. I get the same feeling.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:16 PM
Aug 2012

Just look at her. It's like her shit don't stink. But then, most of the right think the same thing.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
114. Actually she looks like she...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:58 PM
Aug 2012

just smelled something really nasty. Permeating from herself, truth be known.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
135. Nancy Reagan had the charisma of a wet mop
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:23 PM
Aug 2012

Ann has less charisma than a wet mop. Ronnie Reagan was at least likeable Mitt reminds me of the awkward kid who always looks uncomfortable in his own skin. The one that always says something stupid trying to fit in but never pulls it off.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
152. And can you imagine if we'd gotten stuck with Callista Gingrich?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:59 PM
Aug 2012

Although, we'd be really having a royally good time right now with Newtie. But, seriously, where do these Rethugs find these cold, snotty nose-in-the-air women? Is there a Stepford, Inc. somewhere that churns them out?

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
156. There must be! although I hate to admit this I kinda liked Laura Bush, her MIL not so much
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:20 PM
Aug 2012

but I did like it when she turned Nancy's beauty salon into the doghouse

JI7

(89,264 posts)
171. at least Babs had a sense of humor though she could be nasty
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:58 PM
Aug 2012

Cindy McCain would have been ok also. i think Callista would mostly have been ok also. during the primary it was only Ann Romney who would make these type of comments she is now making. a sense of entitlement was there.

Cha

(297,627 posts)
140. I'm not moving..I live on Kaua'i but
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:37 PM
Aug 2012

when I linked on here and every time her pic shows up I avert my eyes and scroll down without having to look at it. She's evil...I don't want to see that.

Anyway PObama's going to win.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
9. releasing more details on the family's taxes would merely give the Obama campaign "more ammunition."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:41 AM
Aug 2012

But they have nothing to hide.

Fuck both of these pompous schmucks.

Release the tax return forms for the last ten years or resign from the campaign.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
32. Why would a serial killer let the cops dig up his basement?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:02 AM
Aug 2012

It would just give the prosecution "more ammunition."

Botany

(70,581 posts)
11. "We have been very transparent ...."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:41 AM
Aug 2012

Like cleaning up all hard drives and documents from Mitt's term as Governor
of Massachusetts or shredding the records of his time @ the Salt Lake Olympics,
or not releasing his tax and Bain capital records.

Something(s) in those taxes must be very toxic

midnight

(26,624 posts)
14. I would like to know how one with so much wealth can legally not pay taxes? I hope Max Keiser
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
Aug 2012

takes this apart and explains... There is no possible justification for someone with so much to not contribute. This candidate and his running mate are very generous with main streets tax contributions being given away to their pet corporations...

unblock

(52,317 posts)
50. there are many sophisticated way to reduce or avoid taxes, but the simplest is munis
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:15 AM
Aug 2012

interest on most municipal bonds are free from income taxes at all levels, as an incentive to help provide towns with funds needed to build roads and bridges and schools and such.

this is hardly the best financial strategy, but it is a simple example of how it can be done, perfectly legally.

and arguably, it's not a terribly immoral thing to do, either, if it actually does result in better roads and schools.



that said, the more lucrative strategies rmoney is in include stuffing as much as possible into "retirement" accounts, which simply avoids taxes for personal gain. to the extent that retirement accounts permit people to not lean on the government in their senior years, this tax break makes sense, but rmoney's $100mm is obviously well beyond that point. there's no social benefit in exchange for depriving the government of his fair share of taxes.

additionally, paying small amounts in taxes or fees to lawyers and other jurisdictions, such as the caymans or bermuda or ireland or luxembourg, in order to escape taxation here, is similarly dodgy.


rmoney's moral compass centers around gaming the system to his own personal advantage, damn the social consequences.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
16. Hey, Queen Anne?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
Aug 2012

We're still going to press, we're still going to ride, we're still going to demand, and fuck you sideways if you don't like it.

This isn't corporate America where you can just buy your way into a ruling position. In the world of politics and the world of governance, you HAVE to answer to people. WE'RE employing YOU, not the other way around.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
17. By default, then... Harry Reid was right: Mitt Romney Paid No Income Taxes In The Last 10 Years!!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:47 AM
Aug 2012

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
20. Of course they're hiding something; probably many things. Political campaigns don't let
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:51 AM
Aug 2012

damaging peripheral issues like this remain on the public radar screen. This issue will cost them the presidency probably more than all of the other disqualifications combined.

Do you recall the "ammunition" used in previous campaigns? The back and forth amounted to who donated more the charity. Big whoop.

They're telling potential future employers (voters) to go to hell. They wouldn't do that unless there is some very damaging and embarrassing stats in their tax filings.

It's funny, they provided the McCain campaign 23 years worth of tax returns as part of the VP vetting process in 2008; but will only release two years to current voters.

Yeah, they're hiding something.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
21. I can't wait for the
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:52 AM
Aug 2012

next Dem presidential candidate to release ONLY TWO tax returns. It's going to be funny to watch the gopers go crazy over that!

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
23. mwooldri: "No more contributions will be released to Romney."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:53 AM
Aug 2012

There's my counterquote. I can't vote anyways - being resident alien and all that..

If I could afford it, I'd give 1 cent multiplied by the factorial of years tax returns a candidate has released. Romney would get $0.02 ( $0.01 x 2! ) - Obama would get $4,790,016.00( $0.01 x 12! ) If Ronald Reagan Sr (late President) had a donation from me, he'd get $7.20 ( $0.01 x 6! ), Clinton and W Bush would get $403.20 ( $0.01 x 8! )

DippyDem

(659 posts)
27. Your job application for President has been rejected by "You People"
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:57 AM
Aug 2012

Reason: 10 years of income tax forms were not submitted.


STAMPED

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
28. So, "there's nothing we're hiding" except for almost everything.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:59 AM
Aug 2012

I love the way that echoes out of the up-is-down rabbit hole of small minds.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
31. so one incomplete year, 2010, is all we get ?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:02 AM
Aug 2012

They said 2 years and now they have backed out from even that?

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
73. You noticed that as well.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:46 AM
Aug 2012

It's the latter half of 2012 -- his 2011 taxes should have been done by now.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
103. That's what people forget. They haven't even released ONE complete return.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:29 PM
Aug 2012

And 2011 is a 'guesstimate' and they're "working on" the final version. Anyone who would vote for 'those people' deserves what they get.

Roy Rolling

(6,933 posts)
33. Where's Willard?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:02 AM
Aug 2012

That takes guts----to send your wife to do your dirty work. But Willard is only applying for the job as the leader of the free world, so hiding behind the skirt of his wife to dodge tough questions will work very well on the world stage.

Mrs. Romney "there's nothing we are hiding" (by hiding our tax returns)

Gawd, to support the current bumper crop of Republican sons-of-the-privileged, people have given up all attempts at rational thought.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
37. we need to hit them hard on this
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:04 AM
Aug 2012

and that includes the empress. Fair game if she is going to be put out as spoksperson. Same for the pampered sons.

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
144. "the empress" LOL love it!!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:57 PM
Aug 2012

I get the distinct impression that in their marriage, he's a wimp and she's rather...um... dominating

 

el scorcho

(58 posts)
38. Attn: US Media
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:06 AM
Aug 2012

Please do not cover any more Romney/Ryan events until they release their tax returns.
If they want to withhold information from the voting public then make it a total blackout.
No coverage until they come clean.

renate

(13,776 posts)
94. or... could that be what the Romney campaign is hoping for?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:21 PM
Aug 2012

Every time he gets in front of the media, he screws up. Maybe this is their clever plan to get the media to leave them alone....

Welcome to DU!

bhikkhu

(10,724 posts)
39. "There's nothing we're hiding"?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:06 AM
Aug 2012

Then why are they hiding it? Even the lowbrow fox viewers could figure out the problem in the claim.

GallopingGhost

(2,404 posts)
41. There is something about this woman
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:09 AM
Aug 2012

that really annoys me. Maybe it's being cavalierly dismissed as "you people"

She has a really sour look about her mouth, as if the American people are just some irritant she has to deal with in this whole thing.

Just release the damned tax returns and let us see for ourselves. For people who have nothing to hide, they sure are going to a lot of trouble to hide it.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
44. "more ammunition."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:10 AM
Aug 2012

Sounds like a confession of wrongdoing to me. The Obama campaign can only use their tax returns against them if there is something they're hiding.

 

plethoro

(594 posts)
46. These crooks need to be exposed--now! Before the Koch
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:11 AM
Aug 2012

Brothers can buy off IRS Compliance and have the returns massaged.

Sandy one

(24 posts)
48. Queen Ann
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:14 AM
Aug 2012

Oh why bother. The ultra rich lily white elite Romney bunch will never come down from their ivory tower and mix with the dirty middle class and poor. It is beneath their dignity. "You people" are really trash and not to be considered worthy of discussion. Elect Romney and we will have a King and Queen.Our first monarchy.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
49. And yet, Republicans and "independants"....
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:15 AM
Aug 2012

....will call this arrogant woman wonderful, as they did with Cindy McCain and Barbara Bush....while they belittling Hillary and Michelle and frequently dropped the b-word on them.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
57. Glad you put "Independants" (sic) in
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:23 AM
Aug 2012

quotation marks. They're not really independent, merely ashamed to own their Repig identities.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
60. Most of them don't wish to identify as uncool....
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:27 AM
Aug 2012

....to their hipster friends. They try to label themselves as libertarian or independent or other nonsense while never bringing themselves to condemn a Rethug with the fervor they do a Dem.

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
70. I'll take Cindy McCain over Ann Romney
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:44 AM
Aug 2012

At least Cindy has some decency in her



(But of course I'll take Hillary or Michelle any day!)

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
51. A US Presidential candidate does not send a spouse out to
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:15 AM
Aug 2012

evade the tough questions and look like an entitled ass in the process. If said candidate is going to be evasive and come across as a crook, that's something he/she absolutely must take on. It's part of the vetting process of being sized up by the American people.

Romney gives new meaning to the word wuss. The man has no character, no integrity, no cojones. I've never seen anything like it.

 

plethoro

(594 posts)
58. Me neither. My wife and I were just talking about this
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:24 AM
Aug 2012

not five minutes ago after I showed her this Header post. This should be shown on a commercial every hour? Shouldn't this be of interest to the IRS also?

Retrograde

(10,156 posts)
115. That way he can go to the "Waaah! You're being mean to a sick woman" tactic
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:01 PM
Aug 2012

Willard tends to remind people of the worst boss they ever had - happy to take all the credit when things go right but quick to have other people do the dirty work.

bullwinkle428

(20,630 posts)
155. He outsourced his own responsibility to Ann!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:08 PM
Aug 2012

Just like how he used his son to deliver the bad news to T-Paw and Portman!

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
168. If Ann had any sense at all she'd tell him he needs to fight
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:31 PM
Aug 2012

his own battles. He reminds me of a little kid hiding behind his mom's skirt. It's embarrassing.

hamsterjill

(15,223 posts)
53. But, the stupid just burns!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:17 AM
Aug 2012

Okay, here's what gets me.

It is quite obvious that the Romney's have something to hide. We don't know exactly what it is, but we have a pretty good idea. And if they didn't have anything to hide, they would simply release the returns and be done with this issue.

But I know countless idiots who are defending Romney's decision NOT to release his returns. And these same countless idiots pay taxes throught the nose. Most that I'm referring are likely in the same tax bracket as I am.

Why does it not bother them that the rich pay no taxes, while they, themselves, pay a big portion of their wages to the IRS? Because I guarantee you that it bothers the hell outta me that Romney (and others) gets away with this!

The stupidity factor for so many Republican voters just amazes me!

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
56. It's Very Simple
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:22 AM
Aug 2012

I'm ashamed of you, Mitt. You're the sorriest excuse for a presidential
candidate this country has ever seen. Release your taxes, if you've got
something to hide explain it, not the other way around.


beyurslf

(6,755 posts)
59. Here's what I don't get:
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:25 AM
Aug 2012

he started running for president in 2007 and has basically not stopped. He is filthy rich, so why didn't he start paying a high rate and stop using loopholes to avoid taxes in 2007? he should be able to release 2007-2011 and show a good 20-35% rate. Any adviser to him should have been telling him this years ago. If he didn't pay a higher rate (and we know he didn't from what little he has released) then it is pure greed. The fact that we won't release previous years, tells me that he paid an even lower rate.It just seems like a dumb amateur move that they could have avoided.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
132. "show a good 20-35% rate"---you mean pay at the same rate as most of us?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:09 PM
Aug 2012

This asshat and his wife should be paying a LOT more than that.

beyurslf

(6,755 posts)
157. Yeah they should be...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

Just seems if I was a billionaire and wanted to become president and worked at it for 5+ years, then I would start paying higher taxes and stop hiding my money--at least while I was actively running.

BrooklynBoy

(19 posts)
64. See?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:33 AM
Aug 2012

Who says Mitt doesn't have convictions and doesn't stick to his guns?

We've had the Olympics and the Ryan roll-out (among other things) to distract us, but the issue of Mitt's taxes hasn't gone away and I don't think it ever will. But, he's sticking to his guns on this one issue. There must be an awful lot of very damaging stuff in those tax returns for the Romney campaign to do a cost-benefit analysis and decide more harm would be done releasing his tax returns than the endless onslaught of criticism and speculation and damage being done by not releasing them.

I don't just want Romney to lose. I want him to lose a la Goldwater and Mondale. I want "you people" to vote against this elitist car-elevator-owning equestrian-riding dog-on-the-roof-of-the-car asshole in record numbers.

earcandle

(3,622 posts)
65. Doesn't the government already have this information? If they filed, isn't it just a matter of
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:35 AM
Aug 2012

taking a look at the IRS tax returns from the inside?

Can't Obama or the Congress subpoena the tax returns?

Who would want to vote for a man with something to hide?

And should our government protect its people against fraudulent rich electorates propped up by money
and racketeering?

Give me a break. There are more ways around this then just asking for them.

iwillalwayswonderwhy

(2,603 posts)
66. I think it was Saint Ronnie who said
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:35 AM
Aug 2012

"Trust, but verify."

I think it was Richard Nixon who said, "I am not a crook".

Now we have Mitt who says, "I have nothing to hide". So he's hiding it.

evilhime

(326 posts)
67. I realize it's an old litany
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:36 AM
Aug 2012

but if you have nothing to hide why not reveal it? By saying it will give the Obama more ammunition that implies there is ammunition to be had. What you don't reveal usually means more than what you do reveal. This has legs and is gonna keep on walkin'.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
69. Yes, there's a "so there" look in this photo
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:43 AM
Aug 2012

I remember reading about an appearance of a couple of Rmoney's boys on the teevee (believe a late night show I never watch) where they stated they were NOT enthusiastic about their dad's run for the Presidency. Huh? Why not?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
71. What a gift.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:45 AM
Aug 2012

How many people does it take to help someone as crooked as Willard screw his pants on every morning? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
72. Given Mormon doctrine...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:45 AM
Aug 2012

that wealth signifies blessedness, it makes sense that the Rmoneys would squeeze through every possible loophole regarding their taxes. To pay more would be morally wrong.

So that brings up the question of where, as a public servant, do Rmoney's loyalties lie? To his religion, or his country? The answer is seems very clear, and completely unlike JFK's.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
74. jeebus, Rmoney
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:47 AM
Aug 2012

sending your first wife out to cover your ass? really? What the hell does she know about their taxes, except to pick up a pen and use her flexible digits to "sign here Mrs. Rmoney"? (do they even file a joint return? how many corporations/offshore accounts does she have?)

citizen blues

(570 posts)
77. Does anyone else have a problem ......
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:48 AM
Aug 2012

with a potential President and First Lady only doing what is legally required of them and nothing more?

They come off as such minimalizing worms. A couple of heartless technocrats. A very, very base level of moral reasoning going on there. It doesn't say a hell of a lot about their character. In a lot of ways I'm really glad the Romneys are Mormon. The LDS church has lots of rules. Could you imagine what he'ld be like if he didn't have some sort of external code of conduct to take literally and follow?

That's why the thought of Romney in the Whitehouse just turns my stomach. This is a man who would not hesitate to use the NDAA! He would see it simply as using all the tools available to him as President that the letter of the law allows him to use.

Can you imagine this man strictly following the letter of the law with NDAA, the Patriot Act and the rest of the rights roll-backs we've had in the last 11 years? Stop and think about what this country would look like. Can you fucking imagine it? Horrifying! Isn't it?

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
81. What a campaign! Out of her own mouth they are hiding things which could be used against them!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:53 AM
Aug 2012

Getting material to use against these people is like shooting fish in a barrel.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
82. I sincerely hope that somebody on our side has copies of those returns showing that
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:57 AM
Aug 2012

they paid virtually NO taxes for 10 years, and possible did so by committing fraud.

StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
101. Every time she opens her mouth, she pours fuel on the fire.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:27 PM
Aug 2012

We are not hiding anything from you people. Why are you hounding us? Just commence with the coronation already!

Smilo

(1,944 posts)
95. Romneys to America - FU
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:22 PM
Aug 2012

They are not concerned about the "little" people, they are concerned that those "little" people will know how the 1% are able to claim so many breaks and pay less taxes than the 99%, as well as being able to pay huge amounts in to their IRAs, when the 99% are capped at $6000.

The Romneys absolute refusal to disclose his tax returns shows an arrogance and complete contempt to the American people.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
106. She's already told "you people" what she wants you to know. Now go away.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:35 PM
Aug 2012

But be sure to come back and vote for Romney in November!

Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
107. Something is Mitten in the state of Denmark!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:35 PM
Aug 2012

They want to rewrite tax law but refuse to show us their tax returns.

cindyperry2010

(846 posts)
109. wow queen anne made
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:36 PM
Aug 2012

a wonderful reinforced impression with this interview. my one question which i have had and not went away are they trying to deliberately loose or are they just completely and utterly clueless

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
110. Al Capone's wife Dierde Marie Capone said almost the same thing about Al's returns.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:37 PM
Aug 2012

I quote ""When the income taxes were first passed there was a provision in that law that you did not have to declare any money you earned illegally," Deirdre Marie Capone told Accounting Today. "It would be self-incriminating if you put down on your tax form that you earned money illegally so nobody knew that they had to put that down."

In this case it simply is not the buisness of "You people".

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
111. Compare this wench to Michelle.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:41 PM
Aug 2012

There is absolutely no comparison. Michelle has class, Ann does not. Did anyone see Michelle on Leno the other night with Gabby? What a classy lady, and I'm proud that she is the first lady. I don't think I've ever seen a FLOTUS with as much class as her. We should all be proud of her. Now look at Ann. What comes to mind?

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
113. Ann Does A Better Job Of Lying Than Mitt
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 12:55 PM
Aug 2012

She doesn't have that nervous laugh just before she tells a whopper. ("there's nothing we're hiding&quot

Plus, all of the stories on Romney's wealth forget about the $100 million trust fund set up for his kids so the real value isn't $250 million, its $350 million and the trust fund was set up tax free.

 

swayne

(383 posts)
120. Ann you've made it simple for the nation. NO TAX RETURNS....NO PRESIDENCY.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:26 PM
Aug 2012

You're only hurting yourself. We could give a crap what's in your taxes, what the country is looking for is at least the appearance of transparency.

Somehow, your 1% mind doesn't get that.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
122. Then consider your campaign effectively over, madam
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:28 PM
Aug 2012

Last edited Sat Nov 10, 2012, 04:34 PM - Edit history (1)

There aren't enough moderate, independent, or undecided voters out there who will choose a liar or a wimp over a black guy.



It's like LeBron James saying, "I'm not going to shoot the ball unless the opposing players are taken off the court -- I'm tired of them trying to bump into me!"


rocktivity

truthisfreedom

(23,154 posts)
126. releasing more details on the family's taxes would merely give the Obama campaign "more ammunition."
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:50 PM
Aug 2012

You nailed it right there, Ann rMoney. Releasing the truth would let the Obama campaign use the truth against your exceptionally wealthy husband, who is using you as a human shield.

 

Life Long Dem

(8,582 posts)
127. "We have been very transparent to what's legally required of us,"
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 01:57 PM
Aug 2012

Is that how it's going to be? You'll only be transparent when necessary and only unless legally required to do so? Screw you and the horse you rode in on. I couldn't deal with such a secretive president.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
131. admitting that releasing more tax info will give Dems "more ammunition" admits a level of wrongdoing
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:06 PM
Aug 2012

i.e. if there's nothing to question in the tax returns, there would be no "ammunition" to use. If there IS something questionable then, yes, there would be.

bucolic_frolic

(43,281 posts)
136. How COULD one grow an IRA so Fast?
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:24 PM
Aug 2012

What are the most profitable enterprises in the world?

Samuel Adams knew. Smuggling.

John D. Rockefeller knew. Oil.

Mitt knows. Outsourcing.

And what else? Let's have a laundry list.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
139. Lookie, lookie--that picture is not kind at all. Cruel, in fact!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:34 PM
Aug 2012

For someone who doesn't pay any taxes and has all that money laying around, you'd think she could do better with her Restalyne appointments particularly before going on national tv! Hell, Barbara Walters doesn't have that kind of money, is old enough to be this woman's mother, and she can manage to keep up with that shit! It's the curse of being in the public eye--Mittsy has to spend hours with Pauly Walnuts' colorist, too, to get those "wings" just right, and the eyebrows/lashes dyed 'just so.'

Does she sneak into the bathroom to smoke? Or is it perpetual frowning that's causing those lines around her mouth?

Of course, Ann has reason to look drawn and worried. On the one hand, she's hiding nothing, on the other, she fears giving "ammunition" to the opposition.

It's impossible for Miz Horsie to live a contented life with that kind of cognitive dissonance hanging over her head.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
142. The reason Ann's face looks the way it does is because she has M.S.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 02:49 PM
Aug 2012

.... which is a horrible disease. Much to be pissed at the Romneys about but
Ann's looks is not one of them.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
146. Bull. One of my best friends has MS, is older than Ann and looks NOTHING like that.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:20 PM
Aug 2012

Her face looks like that because she's pissed off, believes she's special and entitled, she's being challenged on her horseshit, and she's LYING.

That "MS" card is about played out.

I don't see "Nasty-assed, shit-on-lip, sneer" as a consequence of the condition in any of the medical dictionaries.

Please.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
166. The tightness around her mouth and chin is classic MS
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

I am very sorry for your friend but the disease doesn't always
show the same symptoms in all people.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
173. Fail. She has been in FULL REMISSION for over a decade.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:09 PM
Aug 2012

That isn't tightness around her chin--it's pursing of her pissed-off lips. Not the same "look" in the slightest.

The example you are showing me is nothing like that TSK TSK "shit on lip" expression Ann rMoney is displaying.

No cigar. That look on her face has EVERYTHING to do with be called out, and nothing to do with MS.

Botany

(70,581 posts)
183. Ann always has that look of the tightness around her mouth and chin
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 11:12 PM
Aug 2012

Plenty of stuff to be upset w/ the Romneys about but the side effects of
MS is not one of them even if what we are seeing might not be because of
her disease. The fact is neither you or I is in any position to judge why Ann's
face looks like it does and it is classless to say anything about how somebody's
face looks who has a chronic and terminal neuromuscular problem.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
187. I am not talking about her chin--get off the damn chin.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:38 AM
Aug 2012

I'm talking about that shitty look around her MOUTH. That "Don't ask me any questions, you inferior being" look, made all the more noticeable because she didn't get her restalyne fillers to plump up the not-so-fine lines.

Ann Romney had "experimental" chemotherapy for her MS over a decade ago and she has been in full remission ever since. She got that treatment well before it was available to the schmucks, who even now still can't always get it.

See--here she is, happy as a clam. No one is asking her about tax returns in this photo. Sheesh.



http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/19/ann-romney-gets-defensive-about-tax-returns-weve-given-all-you-people-all-you-need-to-know/

ailsagirl

(22,899 posts)
147. This is, truly, a godsend
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:29 PM
Aug 2012

It would appear this interview with "the empress" is supposed to silence the doubters, but what it's done is akin to throwing kerosene on a glowing bed of embers (as others in this thread have mentioned). An astonishingly inept move, even for them!! But yet another gift to razor-sharp Team Obama!!

She doesn't even smile-- she smirks

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
150. Romney's a pretty crappy husband, as well
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 03:47 PM
Aug 2012

Ann Romney has MS, so we are all supposed to be kind and gentle to her no matter her role in the campaign. I'm sorry, but when a spouse (even with a devastating chronic illness) becomes part of the campaign, she's liable to get attacked also.

Romney's a cowardly fool who puts his sick wife out there to take the heat, instead of doing it himself. I have no respect for the man.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
174. Bush was a moron who couldn't string together a coherent
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:22 PM
Aug 2012

sentence. But he never resorted to sending the missus out to make excuses for him or explain away his fuck ups. Romney is pathetic and Ann is allowing herself to be used. If she had any sense, she'd kick him in the ass and encourage him to grow a pair.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
153. It's not about YOU, little miss fancy pants!
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 04:03 PM
Aug 2012

Oh the hubris of the Romneys. It's staggering.

Republicans have repeatedly called on Romney to release those returns. It's not just Democrats. The man
cannot effectively speak about most issues, without releasing those returns. How can he talk about fiscal
responsibility, budgets or TAXES--without everyone thinking, "Uhhh, yeah, where are your tax returns?"

Every presidential candidate in recent history has released several years of tax returns. This was never
an issue, never a fight. They just did it. What makes the fricking Romneys so special that they can dictate
to the country--what they will and will not release?

President Obama had to release his birth certificate, which no President has EVER done--but Mitt Romney won't release several years of taxes, which EVERY recent Presidential candidate HAS done? Lovely.

A Presidential campaign is a job interview. Would you arrive at a job interview and refuse to release your resume?

How in the hell did they think they could get away with this?

And one last thing--who in the world is running their PR--The Three Stooges? Why in the hell -- from a strategy viewpoint -- would Ann Romney bring up this topic? She just stirred up the pot and helped the Democrats re-invigorate a damaging controversy that hurts her husband. Let's all tune in to hear if she mentions Mitt's criticism of the London Olympics. Maybe she'll laud the glories of the state-run healthcare system in her state!

I've NEVER, EVER experienced people who are both so off-the-charts ridiculously stupid and arrogant. It's a rare combo of extreme negatives. They're like cartoons!

I look forward to this Thursday interview, and the post-dust up created by Ann opening her giant pie hole.

Money doesn't always equal class, folks.




BadgerKid

(4,555 posts)
160. Adding "elitism" to Mitt's hypocrisy.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 05:25 PM
Aug 2012

Showing us when you don't HAVE to is the point. Why should we trust you otherwise?

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
175. An analogy:
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:35 PM
Aug 2012

When I was working in the legal department of an engineering company, we applied for a license to do business in the City of New York because we were going to work on a project there. The questions asked by NY were extensive and intrusive. They wanted to know everything about each corporate officer including what other boards they served on or offices held in other corporations. Not only our main corporation but all the officers and directors of our subsidiaries. For example, our corporate president had to disclose his position on the board at his kid's elementary school eight years before!! Previous addresses for 10 years, stocks owned, law suits, even down to traffic tickets and the disposition of the charges! And financial statements for the corporations for 10 years. When our attorney asked the city's attorney why such detail the answer was "we want to make sure you aren't mobbed up".

My point: If the City of New York required sufficient details to be sure our mid-sized engineering firm wasn't dishonest, don't we, as voters, have a similar right to sufficient information to determine the honesty of the person running for the Presidency of the United States and therefore leader of the free world? He's not running for the board of an elementary school.

MITT (and Queen Anne) RELEASE THE TAX RETURNS, DISPEL THE IDEA THAT YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING DISHONEST OR IMMORAL.

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
182. This is ridiculous.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 10:58 PM
Aug 2012

If any of us wants to rent an apartment or get a mortgage, we have to face a credit check. At some companies applicants undergo a background check, even for entry-level jobs.

It's beyond arrogant to withhold tax returns in this day and age, and it's worse that Ann Romney's claiming transparency. Cue The Princess Bride quote on using a word incorrectly.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
186. Well isn't she just a little charmer?
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:17 AM
Aug 2012

Keep talking down to us Annie Baby - You are so helpful to our side.

onager

(9,356 posts)
188. I wanna see the tax returns of that goddam dancing horse!
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 12:55 AM
Aug 2012

And where's my car elevator, you greedheads?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
191. I am elated they are taking this position
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:47 AM
Aug 2012

It provides continued fodder for nailing Romney to the wall on the tax issue. Keep up the good work there Mitt!

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